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ayahuasca

asecin

asecin

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i was wondering, since the products i want to buy are legal here, can someone help me out choose the best that can actually form the mixture and make it work ?

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this one is more limited choice but says strictly "ayahuasca"
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no clue which to get to make it work. is it possible to use just 2 ingredients like a MAIO and DMT or what ?
 
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You should probably edit out those links, or I tihnk this might be closed as source discussion.

You just need some mimosa hostilis rootbark and an MAOI. I would recommend avoiding Syrian Rue, because it makes everyone horribly nauseous. Do some more research :)
 
Kapitan said:
You should probably edit out those links, or I tihnk this might be closed as source discussion.

You just need some mimosa hostilis rootbark and an MAOI. I would recommend avoiding Syrian Rue, because it makes everyone horribly nauseous. Do some more research :)
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mimosa hostilis seems to be sold only by seeds on the site. do i need seeds or root ? and MAOI i can use caapi maybe ?
wow good mention that syrian rue makes you nauseous because thats the one i was initially going to get.
 
You arnt allowed to source even legal things, I believe because the legality of these products are not legal in every country and bluelight is a site accessed worldwide.

You need to do some research, erowid is your friend. I have never heard of syrian rue root or plant material being used, or if it even contains maois. I have used both rue and cappi and both work, and BOTH cause intense vomiting. There are differences between rue and cappi in their effects. Cappi is the traditional route and is considered to hold the real power of the compound, called "the light." Do a lot more research, ayahuasca is not something to mess with and something that ABSOLUTELY needs to be respected. Especially make sure to follow the eating regime before taking it.
 
ok ill remove urls.
what about using rue singly for purpose of depression only, will it work and how do i take it ? can i use caapi by itself alone also for depression ? :\
 
Oh I misread your post. Yeah you need rootbark, seeds are for growing only. Again, do research cause you can also get viridis in replacement of mimosa, which is actually the traditional plant used.
 
Rue does work for depression. Maois are one of the earliest antidepressants. However, they are rarely prescribed nowadays because you need to be very careful with your diet on them.
 
I used an MAOI with my Dexedrine and other various drugs. Ate cheese on it too. Did not do much, cheese gave me a headache, and drugs lasted longer. Maybe some permanent damage that I don't know of.
 
Yes, I have combined MAOI's with small amounts of alcohol and cheese before without reactions. However, this is a very dangerous thing to suggest as safe, and I realize now that it was really tempting fate. Just because it didnt affect you or I that one time (or many) does not mean it cannot affect you very badly another time. I think anyone messing with these drugs should be fully aware of the foods and drugs to avoid with MAOI's. But naturally if someone wants to tempt their fate thats their choice. Its certainly something I would never do again.

Also, I know I keep harping on this, but make sure to do a ton of research before attempting Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca is unlike anything I have ever experienced, its not the same as taking a few tabs of lucy or grams of shrooms with friends. It is a fully immersive and spiritual experience that I have found no equal to.

Best wishes, I have found Ayahuasca to be the most healing medicine I have ever encountered (and Ive done nearly everything).
 
A lot of the vendors try and con people by calling caapi vine by itself "ayahuasca". You need an MAOI.

Your best bet is get some mimosa, extract the DMT (very simple - just soak it in water with drain cleaner and some naptha) and get a pharmaceutical MAOI like moclobemide (trade name aurorix)
 
hmm... seems too complicated to me as im not chemist. i guess i should stick with the morning glory seeds at the local store and go wild on them.
 
daysonatrain said:
Rue does work for depression. Maois are one of the earliest antidepressants. However, they are rarely prescribed nowadays because you need to be very careful with your diet on them.
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They're still heavily prescribed - particularly the pharma ones like moclobemide have pretty much no dietary restrictions whatsoever. Some very unusual cheeses, a few very rare types of beer and foods with very high tyramine content are about all you have to watch out for.
 
so basically that excludes all dairy and meat products right ?
 
No, it's a few very rare cheeses and a few very rare beers with high tyramine content.

To be honest I don't think moclobemide has any dietary restrictions at all.
 
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