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Australian Boy Wants To Try Heroin. Preparation advice?

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skeljar

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Hi, have recently taken a liking to injecting amphetamine with my cousin who now lives with me, we were both into xtc for a while but we always wanted to try shooting up, & so did. I googled&googled&googled for quite a while before we did it so I knew I was doing it right, even went for a blood test first just so I could watch the mildly attractive nurse stab me in the correct fashion. Anyway, we rather enjoy the needle part of the speed, but I don't think im well suited to a speed or meth high. I enjoy it enough, but I prefer to be relaxed rather than sped up. Hence my love of alcohol. Also really enjoyed the "it doesn't matter what I'm fucking doing, it's fantastic" aspect of xtc, where as after the initial rush of shooting gas wears off, it's just "Hmmm now I need to do something but have no idea what", & just either watch my cousin masturbate for 5 hours, or play xbox non stop until our hands are so cramped up that masturbation is barely possible. Anyway. I want something that's going to make me go WOW, & sink into some kind of transcendental stare where anxiety or scattyness is not possible. I just want to be fully Blissed Out. And I want to try to achieve this with heroin. In any event, after much googling like I did with the speed, I'm still confused about, well:
* WHETHER TO ADD SOME KIND OF ACID TO THE STUFF FIRST, AND HOW MUCH , EQUAL AMOUNT AS PURIFIED WATER ETC? & where can I get this stuff? What's it called? My needle exchange point (somewhere in Sydney) does not offer this dissolving stuff like the ones in Europe seem to. The kits come with needles water spoon & alcohol swabs only.
*DO I NEED TO HEAT IT FIRST, OR IS THIS ONLY IF IT DOESN'T DISSOLVE EASILY AS SOME SUGGEST... (same thing with the acid or whatever?) what is the point of this? I read that it let's the cut shit sink to the bottom, then I just suck up the liquid on top? Put it into a baggy or spoon then suck it up again with a new syringe & filter? I understand there are different types or grades of heroin or something. How will I know if mine needs acid/heat?
*I INTEND TO INJECT IN SMALL TEN UNIT DOSES UNTIL I REACH A LEVEL I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, THEN HAVE THE SUM OF THESE SMALL DOSES IN ONE HIT THE NEXT TIME I DO IT, is this safe or I guess just any advice on this really as I have no idea how much to use but I want to be wowed but also not overdose / feel like I could possibly overdose. also I have no way of weighing it or know how to check it's purity. Hence the small increments for the first time we do it.
I guess essentially, I want to know what I'm doing with heroin. There's alot of conflicting info out there, speed seemed easier :/ I don't need to know how to inject, I'm comfortable doing this & almost never miss. Am as safe as a person can be with it. I just need to know how much to take & HOW TO PREPARE IT. I understand the consequences of my actions, I just want to know what's what with the process of injecting heroin so I can cross it off my Things To Die Before I Die list. Even if it ends up killing me. Lol.
 
You don't generally need to acidify Australian heroin, and you shouldn't need to heat it either. Heroin is highly water soluble, so anything that doesn't dissolve is cutter. Just put it in the spoon, add water, filter and shoot.

Dosing in small increments is a good idea every time you get a new batch.
 
^ What Crank said. If you did need to acidify it, you could use citric acid which some pharmacies sell or is easily obtained online. And as Crank said, if it's not dissolving very well then it probably has a lot of cut that is water insoluble in there. In which case smoking or snorting might be a better method of administration.
 
hmmm I see. Well we're getting it off a guy who has excellent quality pills & speed, so hopefully the H is in the same league. Thanks guys. Tomorrow is the day. Feels like Christmas eve in my house at the moment lols. Also if it doesn't dissolve well, will probably just put it in my ass I guess, if I can't get a hold of some citric acid in time. Have done it with pills & it was I don't know, pleasant enough. Thnx again
 
^ haha wtf? Yeh I somehow skimmed over that too. Anyway.... moving right along, I hope you know what you're getting yourself into skeljar. Leaping into injecting heroin isn't really a decision to be taken lightly. :/
 
I was lumping "family masturbating" with "just going to jump straight in to slamming heroin" into the seriously whacked department. How about don't? If you have never tried heroin before I would just suggest snorting or smoking it to find your feet. You will still enjoy your experience without ramping up your tolerance in one foul swoop. Your post screams of highly addictive personality and I hope we don't hear from you again in other regions of Bluelight in a years time describing your rapid slide into junkie oblivion. Unfortunately I don't hold much hope.:\

I sure hope your cousin is hotter than your sister though.
 
Busty St Clare said:
If you have never tried heroin before I would just suggest snorting or smoking it to find your feet. You will still enjoy your experience without ramping up your tolerance in one foul swoop.
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Agree! Take it slow mate, if your source has good quality speed the chances of it being good Heroin is high.

The heroin will be enjoyable I'm sure... it might give you what you're looking for but for me opiates always took a few experiences before I 'got it'. Don't expect to be sinking into the floor in ecstasy like in transpotting.

Not sure where you're located but there's some very potent stuff going around Adelaide at the moment so be careful. Have your cuz or someone else around to keep an eye on you.

I hope we don't hear from you again in other regions of Bluelight in a years time describing your rapid slide into junkie oblivion. Unfortunately I don't hold much hope
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Yeah, bit worried about this kid but I guess we can only advise caution and give the best HR info.

How old are you skeljar? If you don't mind me asking. It's good that you're researching how to do things 'safely' :)

Let us know how you go, ok?
 
Most Aussie heroin is #4 heroin which dissolves easily with the addition of water, as has already been said anything that doesn't dissolve is going to be cutter. You shouldn't need heat or acid, maybe just some slight agitation after you add your water to speed up the dissolving, then just filter it and shoot. A cotton filter seems to be by far the most common and I seldom see a reccomendation to use a micron filter with street drugs, I reckon it would be a good idea to use one before shooting any solution that is not designed for injection but the risks with only using a cotton for heroin seem to be regarded as much lower than for pills like MSCONTIN.

It is definately wise to start small and really with every new lot you should probably have a small taste to guage potency. If you have little or no experience with opiates then there is a good chance that heroin will make you pretty ill.
 
Hmmm. Yeah, I'm probably a little to old to have put 'boy' in the posts heading. But I am 24, for those of u who were wondering. Also my cousin is 19, & yes we're very open / relaxed around each other lol. Aaanyway, I'd like to know a little more about the sickness associated with heroin. And I read in a very helpful thread here that generally Australian heroin requires a little more effort to smoke. Need to add caffeine 1:3 or something like this I don't know. Aside from that I don't like to smoke anything, my lungs are pretty fucked as it is (addictive personality bells should be ringing for you all again). I understand heroin is something else & I can't really compare my speed shooting & ecstasy swallowing / shafting to it, which is why im asking questions / preparing myself. Course my cousin thinks I'm a fuckwit for bothering to even try to be safe / informed before we do it but whatever. Anyway, am very curious about what to expect with the come down / sickness that some of you are talking about. An 8 ball of the stuff will be entering my life in about 5 or 6 hours. On the plus side, the guy we get our speed & xtc off can't get H regularly, always needs like a weeks notice or some shit. & our other dealer, who we affectionately refer to as "The Russian" (despite him actually being Lebanese...) refuses to sell it to us, as he was a good friend of my cousins before he became his dealer. So at least itl take a small effort to get a regular supply / become addicted. As for snorting it too does that work well? Does anyone know the absorption rates of snorting/smoking/shafting it? Hmmm. I'm also from Sydney I think someone asked... yeah this stuff is coming out of blacktown/doonside. Ookkk I think that's all, gotta go make a call now & enter the H Kingdom. You know, I say this with a touch of sadness, but ever since I was 12 years old I've wanted to shoot heroin. I've romanticized it for the past dozen years, never bothering to do anything about an actual try out. Though 6 months ago if you'd told me I'd be shooting speed each weekend I'd have laughed at you (then stuck another xtc pill in my ass). But yeah, the moment is finally here, & I'm preparing for a bit of a let down really, kind of like when you first see your favourite autotuned singer perform live. Yeah it's great and all but it's not as godly as u imagined. We'll see.
 
skeljar said:
... An 8 ball of the stuff will be entering my life in about 5 or 6 hours. ....
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Holy shit man, please tell me you have scales and are not going to be eyeballing doses? In my opinion you should start with smoking or snorting, and with very small incremental doses, get to where you want to be and then if you're still intent on injecting it wait a day and halve the amount you used on the other routes of administration. Do NOT take it alone the first time!
 
skeljar said:
"Hmmm now I need to do something but have no idea what", & just either watch my cousin masturbate for 5 hours
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skeljar said:
But I am 24, for those of u who were wondering. Also my cousin is 19, & yes we're very open / relaxed around each other lol
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wow..

thats fucked up

If your used to wackin speed and love your stimulants like I do, smack might not be your thing.. opiates don't really appeal to me due to the fact the euphoria doesn't even come close to that of meth amp. and I just don't really see the recreational value in doin a drug, feeling sick followed by an intense spew.. then constantly falling asleep and waiting up for the following few hours... (obviously this usually only happens when you have too much but fuck it is hard to gauge potency when it comes to smack)

Am I the only I.V user on here that prefers to snort their heroin??
 
Am so confuuuused. Don't know whether to get the 8 ball of H, or just divide up the cash, lil bit of H, lil bit more of speed. I just don't know if il like it / regret not just getting speed. Umm hmmm. Well I have about half an hour to decide before it's set in stone
 
no offence but why the fuck are you gettin an 8ball if you've never tryed it?? theres a good chance you wont like it...

just grab a half weight n see if you like it...
 
belarki said:
Holy shit man, please tell me you have scales and are not going to be eyeballing doses? In my opinion you should start with smoking or snorting, and with very small incremental doses, get to where you want to be and then if you're still intent on injecting it wait a day and halve the amount you used on the other routes of administration. Do NOT take it alone the first time!
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I MIGHT REITERATE belarki HERE: DO NOT EYEBALL IT AND DO NOT TAKE IT ALONE THE FIRST TIME AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ohhhh I don't know. Because I have money to waste this week I guess. & its harder to get for me. So yes hmmm. Stock up lol. & if I don't like it, can always resell I guess. Motherfucker isn't answering his phone though. Am just waiting / anticipating like crazy. Also, for the other posts, I won't be doing it alone. & yeah I don't have scales so hmmm. Also everything is closed near me at the moment except woolworths/Coles so can't get them tonight..
 
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