AUS - Fighting against the meth monsters

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AUS - Fighting against the meth monsters

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A small amount of "ice'' can lead to a rampage, which police have not ruled out being behind the fatal attack on Thomas Kelly. Picture: Craig Greenhill Source: The Daily Telegraph

ON the front line at St Vincent's Hospital, the doctors and nurses in the emergency department are regularly faced with six to 10 of them a week: the meth monsters.

Off their heads on as little as $50 worth of crystal methamphetamine, they have lost all ability to control themselves but are incredibly strong, violent and thrash and buck like animals.

Police and paramedics bring the addicts in, mainly from the streets of Kings Cross. St Vincent's head of emergency services Gordian Fulde said that all the nurses and doctors could do was hold the patients down, with the help of security guards, and get tranquillisers into them.

"It's horrible to watch," Professor Fulde said.

Police investigating the savage, unprovoked and fatal bashing of country teenager Thomas Kelly on a crowded Kings Cross street on Saturday night have not ruled out that his attacker was on crystal meth or other drugs, drunk or mentally ill.

Prof Fulde said crystal meth users were usually aged 25 to 35. Just months of using the drug caused serious mental health problems that showed up on brain scans as clear deterioration of the brain. It was no party drug, he said.

"It's one of the most addictive drugs on the street at the moment," he said.

It was on the streets of the Cross where a lot of this drug-taking happened, he said.

"These people who take crystal meth become dissociated from society," he said. "They become homeless. They drift towards the Cross where the drugs are and where the drug support organisations are."

Figures show amphetamine use is growing.

Local business chamber the Potts Point Partnership chairman Adrian Bartels said he suspected crystal meth was behind the perceived worsening violence in the Kings Cross area. "You can see when you are looking at what happens early in the morning that people are clearly not just on alcohol -- they're not drowsy," Mr Bartels said.

"You can't tell what people are on unless you actually go up to them and ask, but the really outlandish injuries and violence that you do see more and more of in Kings Cross are consistent with crystal meth usage."

Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research figures show the possession and use of amphetamines, including crystal meth, in the Sydney local government area -- which covers the Cross -- jumped 21.5 per cent in the 12 months to March this year.

The number of incidents of possessing or using amphetamines rose from 637 between April 2010 and March last year to 774 to March this year.

Prof Fulde said crystal meth use had peaked as a problem about five years ago but the number of users being brought into the hospital had never gone down. It has remained steady at six to 10 a week, most at weekends.

"It's a powerful and very toxic and very nasty drug," he said. "A small amount gives a big rush and it can last for many hours.

"We have had people going absolutely berserk and psychotic. They just totally lose all human functions of control of their behaviour and they are just animals brought in by the police because they have gone totally crazy and violent, even to themselves.

"They will bash themselves against a wall to hurt themselves. They scratch themselves because they see animals beneath their skin."

Unlike drugs like heroin, there is no way to bring users down from a psychotic episode, which is why the only thing that works is tranquillisers.

Drug and alcohol treatment centre Odyssey House chief executive James Pitts said that the number of people entering the program who nominated amphetamines as their drug of choice had surged over the past year.

Last financial year the number of people being treated for amphetamine abuse leapt from less than 20 per cent of admissions to 30 per cent, outstripping the number of people treated for alcohol addiction for the first time, Mr Pitts said.

"I was a little surprised at the jump," Mr Pitts said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...he-meth-monsters/story-e6freuzi-1226423927395
 
I hate it when people speculate about whether a certain drug 'caused' a crime, and it's kind of shitty to paint people who are obviously addicted and mentally ill as 'monsters,' but no shit that meth is causing serious problems. I have to admit it's almost funny that they went to so much effort to suppress heroin and ecstasy, only to end up with a bunch of aggressive meth addicts. "Be careful what you wish for..."

Also, what the hell is up with that picture? Is that supposed to be someone smoking meth? Only an idiot would try to smoke meth by heating a small piece of metal like that.
 
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yeah true on all points there, totally agree. I wondered about the pic too, at first I thought it was someone preparing heroin on a spoon.

When i used to goto raves ages ago there was alot of real mdma pills and shards weren't even about at all. Now it's totally the opposite. Some younger friends tell me alot of lads roll and bash people in the carpark and even in the venues. Sounds fucked. There was hardly ever any violence back in the early rave days and i guess that all has something to do with meth being so available now and mdma not so much.
 
When i used to goto raves ages ago there was alot of real mdma pills and shards weren't even about at all. Now it's totally the opposite. Some younger friends tell me alot of lads roll and bash people in the carpark and even in the venues. Sounds fucked. There was hardly ever any violence back in the early rave days and i guess that all has something to do with meth being so available now and mdma not so much.

Yup, the drought back in 09/10 was the final nail in the coffin for the rave scene. Even though the pills are somewhat improved now, everyone got hooked on the pipe and now the whole scene is geared up on meth instead of being loved up on pills. The old PLUR vibe is totally dead, the music is just something in the background, and the crowd spend more time out in their car sucking off a glass pipe than they do on the dancefloor. Raves are just an excuse to smoke pipes and talk shit now. Really sad :(
 
what a fucking ridiculous article.
it would be - is - utterly stupid to speculate on the kind of drugs the violent person that killed that kid was on....but if i was feeling presumptuous, i would have to say ALCOHOL, or at least a cocktail including alcohol.
in the 10+ years i've been going to licensed establishments, it has never been my experience to see 'drug people' starting fights or being intimidating.
sure, people on drugs might cause trouble - but there is pretty much always alcohol involved as well.

of course, i'm not actually saying the person that committed the attack was drunk (that would be foolish - they don't even know who did it!) but it is a ridiculous proposition to blame a substance.

absolutely agree with all you said crankinit - aggression certainly has increased with the rise of meth in australia (and the sharp decline of plentiful mdma) but i still think alcohol causes a ridiculous amount of aggression, and not just because it is the most common/accepted/used drug.
but this is no reason to cheapen what is a sickening and tragic story by trying to turn it into a drug moral panic. "meth monsters"? please.
that kind of media campaign suggests that police should be focussing on drug users in an effort to stop violence on the streets, rather than...uh, focussing on violence on the streets. crass, lazy, reactionary journalism.

the picture cracks me up too - looks like the hands of some crotchety journo that thinks he knows what's happenin' on the streets.
you'd have to be a moron to use a thin plastic $20 as a tooter! it would likely melt and shrivel up as you are inhaling, not to mention putting dirty currency in your mouth.
flame is way too close to the foil as well - what a tit. ;)
 
^ haha to you maybe! http://www.facesofmeth.us/main.htm they all have their mouths closed ;-/

They look kinda like they've aged 10x the amount it says, but i'm not too sure about those kinda sites anyway. Our smoking ads were made to look pretty shocking and later I read some crap about they weren't even real.
 
Fighting against the meth monsters - What's next Fighting against the Oxy Morons? 8(
 
absolutely agree with all you said crankinit - aggression certainly has increased with the rise of meth in australia (and the sharp decline of plentiful mdma) but i still think alcohol causes a ridiculous amount of aggression, and not just because it is the most common/accepted/used drug.

Exactly, the replacement of MDMA with meth certainly doesn't help, but if you want to find the cause of most violence on the street, look no further than booze. But writing about booze-induced violence doesn't sell papers the way demonizing drug users does.
 
^you also find alcohol (and alcohol-selling establishments) ads throughout Australian newspapers.
They dont want to upset their sponsors...
 
i note with interest that a lot of the media have focused their attention back onto alcohol. i don't wish to scapegoat any drug for people being violent dickheads, but i do think booze is more to blame for this culture in australia

No Cross revolution on way while politicians are under influence of liquor trade

Occasionally, something so awful happens that people stop in their tracks and demand a change to the order of their lives. It's an Arab Spring moment.
In the case of the Middle East it was inspired by the Tunisian street vendor Mohamed Bouazizi, who set himself on fire in protest at police corruption and harassment. His death fired a revolution that has toppled dictators throughout the region, and it continues.
Without drawing too long a bow, Thomas Kelly's death on July 7 has set off a wave of revulsion about violence in Kings Cross. That a young man has been arrested and charged with Kelly's murder is a crucial moment, but it has not resolved the disturbance.
I hope this is not too awkward a straddle - but if citizens can topple a few nasty tyrants, you'd think back here in lotus land the pubs, clubs and grog industry could be tipped off the gilded perch from where it presides over much of the tone and politics of the state, and beyond.
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My hunch is that this is not going to happen. The industry is too far embedded in the fabric of the place and its hand too deeply feeding the pockets of the politicians. You could detect that from the Town Hall forum on Tuesday night, organised by the Herald. Among the large amount of indictable data there was nothing more telling than that from Don Weatherburn, the director of the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research, an institution that is one of the great gems of this state.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/no-cr...influence-of-liquor-trade-20120719-22cxy.html
 
I've always wondered how much of it is the alcohol itself and how much is just the fact that people who go out with the intention of getting violent generally tend to use alcohol as their DOC while doing so. I'm sure it's a bit of both, but nobody knows to what degree.
 
Yeah...it's an interesting point crankinit.
I think people's intentions, personalities, insecurities, aggression and a whole lot of other factors definitely come into play - but I am also very much aware of the desensitising effects of alcohol.
It often leads people to make really bad decisions (more than most other drugs I've encountered) and some people get really aggressive when they're under the influence.
I think we have an immature drinking culture as well - one that prides binging and drinking to get drunk more than the social or enjoyment aspect.
So I don't want to blame alcohol for people being dickheads - maybe dickheads just tend towards alcohol. Regardless, I think it is a combination of many different factors, but I'm generally rather uncomfortable when I'm surrounded by drunks.
 
Yeah alcohol is certainly a contributing factor, and in general I don't enjoy drinking crowds or venues with large numbers of drunk people. It can be fun in combination with other drugs or in small groups with people you know don't get stupid on booze though.
 
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