Aus - Drug squad chief calls for softened penalties

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Drug squad chief calls for softened penalties

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PHOTO: Being convicted of minor drug possession has wide-ranging effects. (boodoo: Flickr)

In an exclusive interview, the head of the NSW police drug squad says penalties should be softened for minor drug possession.

In a wide-ranging interview, Detective Superintendant Nick Bingham told triple j's Hack program that police should move to a softer approach for policing personal drug use and possession offences.

Det Supt Bingham said he would like to see cautions given for all "use-possession-type offences".

He said a cautioning program would move people away from the criminal justice system and into health programs, adding that being caught with a small amount of drugs has wide-ranging effects that impact on a person's career.

"Therefore, that person wouldn't have a criminal conviction for a use-or-possess offence," he said.

"And a person who has made a mistake and has gone to a music festival and has been found with an ecstasy pill in their pocket by a drug dog wouldn't have that criminal conviction hanging over his or her head."

Det Supt Bingham said the cannabis cautioning program had proven there "is a better way of doing things".

"It's my understanding that most of the people who have been given the benefit of a cannabis caution and have been diverted to a help line don't reoffend," he said.

Mainstream debate

Dr Alex Wodak, the president of the Australian Drug Law Reform Foundation, told Hack that Det Supt Bingham's comments should bring the subject into mainstream debate.

Dr Wodak is also a member of Australia 21, the organisation that last year released a report calling for an end to the war on drugs.

He said Det Supt Bingham's position reflected the changing nature of the drug debate in Australia.

"Academics have been saying this sort of thing for years and with increasing confidence and increasing evidence to back that up," he said.

"But it is another matter when a senior serving policeman says this sort of thing."

Drug policy researchers like Dr Wodak are calling for a broader decriminalisation of illicit drugs and a more regulatory system.

But that is not what Det Supt Bingham believes. He said a regulatory system could be beneficial in relation to synthetic drugs but not traditional illicit drugs such as heroin.

Jane Sanders, the principal lawyer for Sydney's Shopfront Youth Legal Centre, said Det Supt Bingham's comments were "sensible and realistic".

She said moving to a cautionary system for minor drug offences would free police to deal with "real crime".

"There is less chance of people being stigmatised and drawn into the criminal justice system," she said.

'Punishment doesn't fit crime'

Chris, who was caught with three ecstasy tablets at the Big Day Out five years ago, said the conviction ruined his livelihood.

He said he had finally completed his apprenticeship as a locksmith but the conviction meant he could not hold a security licence.

He lost his job and his toil as an apprentice went to waste.

"Do you think going out to a party with three pills should affect my livelihood? I've been punished for 10 years here," he said.

"I've gone through my trade where I've earned first-year apprentice [wages of] $200 a week - did that for a year.

"Gone through all of that and finally got to where the money side of my career is - where you turn tradesman - and [I can't] do it.

"I don't think the crime fitted the punishment in this circumstance."

NSW Attorney-General Greg Smith would not comment on Det Supt Bingham's comments specifically but told Hack in a statement: "Decriminalising of the use and/or possession of illicit drugs is not on the Government's agenda."

Police Minister Michael Gallacher also released a statement:

"Nationally, police enforce their respective state drug laws in a way that highlights the seriousness of participating in the toxic drug economy," the statement said.

Pauline Wright from the Law Society backs the push.

She says the current legislation ruins careers.

"It can have a really quite devastating effect on people's lives," she said.

"They should focus their attention on the real criminals in this, who are manufacturing drugs, importing drugs, and really creating criminal havoc."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-17/drug-squad-commander-calls-for-drug-reform/4635620
 
"They should focus their attention on the real criminals in this, who are manufacturing drugs, importing drugs, and really creating criminal havoc."

Depends on what they're importing.

If it's Nembutal, there shouldn't be any possibility of conviction. Especially since persons importing this are using it for one and only one purpose - to put themselves to sleep for good. In other words, they're attempting to possess the drug with suicidal intent because they don't want to endure a painful or violent death, which is fair enough. There is no intent to dispense or distribute the drug to anyone else. In this case it's clearly for personal use in suicide. Sure, taking a small amount (ie. 100mg) of it might eliminate anxiety before a fatal dose is consumed but that should not change anything.

Frankly, barbiturates like Nembutal should be sold over the counter. We already have abortion on demand, I don't see why there is a problem with people taking a barbiturate to end their own lives, even if ending those lives would cause great emotional pain for others. Do you really think abortion is any different in this regard? If you do then you are deluded.
 
Depends on what they're importing.

If it's Nembutal, there shouldn't be any possibility of conviction. Especially since persons importing this are using it for one and only one purpose - to put themselves to sleep for good. In other words, they're attempting to possess the drug with suicidal intent because they don't want to endure a painful or violent death, which is fair enough. There is no intent to dispense or distribute the drug to anyone else. In this case it's clearly for personal use in suicide. Sure, taking a small amount (ie. 100mg) of it might eliminate anxiety before a fatal dose is consumed but that should not change anything.

Frankly, barbiturates like Nembutal should be sold over the counter. We already have abortion on demand, I don't see why there is a problem with people taking a barbiturate to end their own lives, even if ending those lives would cause great emotional pain for others. Do you really think abortion is any different in this regard? If you do then you are deluded.

Or they could use it to commit murder.

Just saying.
 
Or they could use it to commit murder.

Just saying.

Yeah sure they could 8)

That stuff is so damn bitter that I would just about puke from drinking a mixture of the contents of 1 Nembutal capsule and 50mL of water.

You sure you are going to administer a fatal dose of Nembutal to someone without them realizing it? You're crazy if that's what you think. Mind you they can also add bitterants to the Nembutal to make it taste even MORE bitter than it already tastes, which to say the least tastes absolutely REVOLTING.

Jesus Christ you're much better off using something like cyanide.
 
Depends on what they're importing.

If it's Nembutal, there shouldn't be any possibility of conviction. Especially since persons importing this are using it for one and only one purpose - to put themselves to sleep for good. In other words, they're attempting to possess the drug with suicidal intent because they don't want to endure a painful or violent death, which is fair enough. There is no intent to dispense or distribute the drug to anyone else. In this case it's clearly for personal use in suicide. Sure, taking a small amount (ie. 100mg) of it might eliminate anxiety before a fatal dose is consumed but that should not change anything.

Frankly, barbiturates like Nembutal should be sold over the counter. We already have abortion on demand, I don't see why there is a problem with people taking a barbiturate to end their own lives, even if ending those lives would cause great emotional pain for others. Do you really think abortion is any different in this regard? If you do then you are deluded.
You don't think at least some of the would be mothers regret getting an abortion?? I'm sure a lot of them do.

I completely disagree with you on being able to kill yourself at will. If you want to die, fine, but you should have to go threw some kind of screening or therapy before your allowed to do it. Some people could just be having a shitty week and on a whim, decide to off themselves. Some people(I for one) don't exactly think before they act when they arnt in their right mind.

Shit man if I could get an OTC suicide pill I would have done it by now.
 
Flynnal, I think you're being very naive and not very helpful to your overall goal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be arguing for legally assisted suicide, not drug law reform.
 
You don't think at least some of the would be mothers regret getting an abortion?? I'm sure a lot of them do.

Absolutely! Of course I do! That was the point I was trying to illustrate - that abortion CAN and DOES cause harm to some people, just like suicide does, in fact it can lead to things like drug use and even suicide. BUT the government still allows it to happen because it claims that we have ownership of our bodies which is complete bullshit because clearly we don't. If you can't legally use cannabis then you don't own your own body.
 
^ talking of abortions and drugs for it, it has been in the news alot in Aus recently, i'll post a new thread on it now.
 
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