Attempted Murder by Tweekers?

[Capricious]

@ NerdOnDrugs

Your point is somewhat valid but you also need to understand that Cocaine comes through Mexico via South America...Many of the cartels in Mexico & Their traffickers in the U.S have steadily been mixing Methamphetamine with Cocaine along with all the other usual cuts... A pure powder cocaine high should last roughly 10-15 Minutes per line...These days people remain high for nearly an "Hour: due to the Meth that's mixed in with the Coke. It won't be long until the East Coast starts seeing Cocaine addicts turn to Meth!! It happened on the Coastal & Interior West its just a matter of time until it becomes main stream in the "upper" drug community in the East Coast.

 

[Capricious]

The funny part is all of my meth career was in SOCAL. I moved to Florida to get clean . lol

I moved cause it kept showing it's face where ever I was.

The Entire state of California is flooded with Meth...The Bay Area & the Central Valley is just as Bad as Southern California & even the High Desert!! Its so bad infact that it over flows into Las Vegas & Phoenix! I am planing on leaving Cali but I am sure If I were to look for it I would find it in most cities... I am happy being sober...I don't miss the paranoia, diarrhea, sweating & all the nasty side effects of Meth let alone all the sketchy characters & moments of shear terror!! Not a life worth living!

 

[Folley]

^ Make that the entire Western America... Utah, Nevada, Idaho and of course the coast are all hotbeds. Obviously, Texas is FLOWING (literally) with drug.. most travel straight through to other states but a lot lands in the major cities as well.


Why don't they bring it up to the East? I guess there just isn't a market for it, and there isn't a market because they don't bring it up there lol. Kind of a vicious cycle, but so is meth.

 

[Capricious]

^ Make that the entire Western America... Utah, Nevada, Idaho and of course the coast are all hotbeds. Obviously, Texas is FLOWING (literally) with drug.. most travel straight through to other states but a lot lands in the major cities as well.

Why don't they bring it up to the East? I guess there just isn't a market for it, and there isn't a market because they don't bring it up there lol. Kind of a vicious cycle, but so is meth.

Yes the Western United States is Chest High in Meth from Alaska to San Diego...I swear in some neighborhoods you will find baggies with tiny shards in them littered in alleys, Many Liquor stores sell ( incense burners ) aka a Pizzo-Meth-Pipes lol...But I think you're claiming victory a little too prematurely...The Cartels are increasing Meth production at break neck speeds! During my last use I noticed that purity has gone up dramatically & prices are falling due to over saturation...Meth is being Mixed with Cocaine, Ecstasy & other drugs...even free samples are being peddled with other substances! No area is totally immune..Meth has been on the scene in the Midwest for a while only thing that changed is the suppliers...Now its the Mexican cartels who produce it with Americans as local dealers... The D.C area has had increases in Meth use...Its not long until it hits the Big Apple & other Eastern Population Centers!

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

@ NerdOnDrugs

Your point is somewhat valid but you also need to understand that Cocaine comes through Mexico via South America...Many of the cartels in Mexico & Their traffickers in the U.S have steadily been mixing Methamphetamine with Cocaine along with all the other usual cuts... A pure powder cocaine high should last roughly 10-15 Minutes per line...These days people remain high for nearly an "Hour: due to the Meth that's mixed in with the Coke. It won't be long until the East Coast starts seeing Cocaine addicts turn to Meth!! It happened on the Coastal & Interior West its just a matter of time until it becomes main stream in the "upper" drug community in the East Coast.

Unfortunately meth in gay culture on the west coast right now has to taken into account as well, if you talk about Meth, the affluent, and the West. It's been terrible for the gay community, SF in particular, were they do tend to be more affluent than not.

Not that NYC doesn't have its gay community, but it's a different scene, with different kinds of occupations. And more coke/heroin availability.

About meth as a cutting agent to make the "pure coke" seem like it lasts longer to people. I've read of that. So far no coke I've ever seen had that effect that I'm aware of, or to anyone I know, but I'm aware it happens. Meth also introduces itself in E on the East Coast.

At the end of the day, even if use creeps up a bit in the North East, I see demand for actual meth always being behind every other region in the US, even with our high population. Of course meth traffickers want meth in the NE, that's where the money is. But yet, even if you have decent connects here, it's a tough find.

We just don't want it as much. We know it's around. Any experienced druggie in the NE could probably find it. But use remains the lowest.

 

[Capricious]

Unfortunately meth in gay culture on the west coast right now has to taken into account as well, if you talk about Meth, the affluent, and the West. It's been terrible for the gay community, SF in particular, were they do tend to be more affluent than not.

Not that NYC doesn't have its gay community, but it's a different scene, with different kinds of occupations. And more coke/heroin availability.

About meth as a cutting agent to make the "pure coke" seem like it lasts longer to people. I've read of that. So far no coke I've ever seen had that effect that I'm aware of, or to anyone I know, but I'm aware it happens. Meth also introduces itself in E on the East Coast.

At the end of the day, even if use creeps up a bit in the North East, I see demand for actual meth always being behind every other region in the US, even with our high population. Of course meth traffickers want meth in the NE, that's where the money is. But yet, even if you have decent connects here, it's a tough find.

We just don't want it as much. We know it's around. Any experienced druggie in the NE could probably find it. But use remains the lowest.

Yes Gay communities no matter what region of the U.S tend to be the hardest hit when it comes too Meth abuse. It tends to be concentrated more in Gay scenes in the LA Basin, the Bay Area & San Diego in California...Other Western Cities also mirror this. But it has become more mainstream in California around the mid 90's... In the Western United States, Border States & Midwest are saturated with Methamphetamine...chances are you have a far easier time obtaining Crystal Meth then other drugs expect for Marijuana which is readily available thanks to the dispensaries out West. In the East Coast it is easier to get Coke & Heroine I presume?

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

Yes Gay communities no matter what region of the U.S tend to be the hardest hit when it comes too Meth abuse. It tends to be concentrated more in Gay scenes in the LA Basin, the Bay Area & San Diego in California...Other Western Cities also mirror this. But it has become more mainstream in California around the mid 90's... In the Western United States, Border States & Midwest are saturated with Methamphetamine...chances are you have a far easier time obtaining Crystal Meth then other drugs expect for Marijuana which is readily available thanks to the dispensaries out West. In the East Coast it is easier to get Coke & Heroine I presume?

It's really easy to get "coke" in the NE, but coke is always just begging to be cut. But people with money and connects can find good quality coke relatively easy, maybe after getting burned a couple times before you find the right people. Plus, even with a lot of stoner college kids stricly selling weed; coke or adderall will tend to get on their menu at some point, for short periods, just because of prevalence.

As for H, "NYC heroin" is practically a brand name, ya know? With prices that are getting lower with all the competition. I know it's a real black tar situation in the west right? I attribute this mainly to the prevalence of trans-Atlantic smuggling routes (lucky geography) plus exporters want to go to where the money is.


Hey, decent argument with a lot of you guys. Neither side (me vs. everyone?) gave a big concession, but at least people are thinking, I think. No one really makes a big concession during an argument, but don't worry everyone, it'll happen when your subconscious computes all this, might take days.

 

[Capricious]

It's really easy to get "coke" in the NE, but coke is always just begging to be cut. But people with money and connects can find good quality coke relatively easy, maybe after getting burned a couple times before you find the right people. Plus, even with a lot of stoner college kids stricly selling weed; coke or adderall will tend to get on their menu at some point, for short periods, just because of prevalence.

As for H, "NYC heroin" is practically a brand name, ya know? With prices that are getting lower with all the competition. I know it's a real black tar situation in the west right? I attribute this mainly to the prevalence of trans-Atlantic smuggling routes (lucky geography) plus exporters want to go to where the money is.


Hey, decent argument with a lot of you guys. Neither side (me vs. everyone?) gave a big concession, but at least people are thinking, I think. No one really makes a big concession during an argument, but don't worry everyone, it'll happen when your subconscious computes all this, might take days.

Heroine is some what difficult compared to meth & Coke out west... But the Meth has a higher profit margin then all the other drugs its nearly worth its weight in gold when sold in grams...Its odd how this thread was originally about the **dangers of tweakers & meth horror stories** & now we are arguing if Meth is prevalent in this location or that... lool... I'd like to discuss that on another thread but can we please revert to the original topic at hand thanks!---> Tweaker danger stories!

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

& now we are arguing if Meth is prevalent in this location or that... lool... I'd like to discuss that on another thread but can we please revert to the original topic at hand thanks!---> Tweaker danger stories!

I agree, it was a good debate, but now I want to hear about what some 7 foot Mexican did with a chainsaw when he found out his tina was a quarter gram short. (covertly continuing my main argument heh)

 

[RobotRipping]

^perhaps you'd be interested in seeing this new documentary about drug users and the horrible acts they committed. I think it was on nat geo it was called the drugs made me do it.

If you watch it, it's kind of hard to blame the drugs but in a sense it isn't either, some people just go out of their mind, black out and carry out very savage acts. It's like their brain has for the most part shut down but their most primal instincts kick in and they rip people apart piece by piece with no memory of it.

I hate to blame a substance for someone's actions but in some cases, it is the substance, or the person's underlying mental condition which would never have surfaced if it weren't for the drugs.


I dunno.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

^perhaps you'd be interested in seeing this new documentary about drug users and the horrible acts they committed. I think it was on nat geo it was called the drugs made me do it.

If you watch it, it's kind of hard to blame the drugs but in a sense it isn't either, some people just go out of their mind, black out and carry out very savage acts. It's like their brain has for the most part shut down but their most primal instincts kick in and they rip people apart piece by piece with no memory of it.

I hate to blame a substance for someone's actions but in some cases, it is the substance, or the person's underlying mental condition which would never have surfaced if it weren't for the drugs.


I dunno.

Love Nat Geo... tabboo, locked up, and when they stories on drugs it's usually even handed. I'll check it out..


I know it's a bit awkward that this is a druggie forum and we are all bashing meth. But druggies can be objective too... fuck meth heads mostly agree with all this shit and will let u know.

 

[F1n1shed]

Wow this thread is creepy, i am glad i never got too far into it. It was stupid xanax's fault that i ever tried it. I was disgusted by meth when i walked in seeing some people do it, but as soon as i took that bar i was interested. Anyways, meth is definitely it's own demon. Feels similar to other amps.... but not. If you've done it, you know what i mean. It's very deceiving, i'm glad i never got into sketchy stuff with meth. I've been to a nasty tweakers house, and couldn't believe how he lived like that. Real skinny guy, dark busted up house, uhgg not cool. Glad i stopped that shit early before it got out of hand, because i could see it taking a hold of me fast.

More stories please.

 

[95Land]

I remembered another one....
I went over to a tweaker friends to get some shards and smoke with the randoms there. I was sitting in the living room with a few guys and 2 girls and we were passing around a couple pipes.
One of the girls kept looking at me, looking at me. She was finally like, "We know each other, don't we?" I said 'No, I don't believe so.' I had no fucking clue who this girl was.
She dropped it for a few minutes then started back in again. She knew she KNEW me, I was so and so's friend, we hung out at this guys house, etc, etc. 'No, I'm not his friend. No, we didn't.' I was polite about it and she eventually gave up for a bit.
A little while later she sat next to me and informed me that not only had we hung out a few times but we had sex at least that one time at the aforementioned guy's house.
I had no idea who she was but I didn't trust my mind enough to completely rule out the possibility that she wasn't completely fucking nuts and that we hadn't possibly fucked each other and I just didn't remember. I still don't completely know. So, I figured the best thing to do was to be noncommittal. Maybe we did! Maybe we didn't though.... Seemed to satisfy her curiosity(?)

A handful of people witnessed most of all this. I found out a little later on that night who she was. She was married with a few children, she was prone to running off on her husband, and he would routinely track her down and drag her out of wherever it was she had gotten to and threaten to kill, maim whoever was in the way.

I forgot about it. A few days later I was asleep in my apartment and my cell rang. It was this girls husband. He told me he knew I had been seeing his wife and that I was a dead man. He was gonna torture and then kill me.
I remember yelling back at him, asking him if he knew who I was(no one of note in reality, but that doesn't matter.)
He never showed to kill me, either. I don't think I ever had met the girl before. I'm almost sure I never had sex with her. But, do I know for sure? No.
This happened like 5 years ago and time has given me 0 amount of clarity in regard to that period of my life. Fun, fun.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

I remembered another one....
I went over to a tweaker friends to get some shards and smoke with the randoms there. I was sitting in the living room with a few guys and 2 girls and we were passing around a couple pipes.
One of the girls kept looking at me, looking at me. She was finally like, "We know each other, don't we?" I said 'No, I don't believe so.' I had no fucking clue who this girl was.
She dropped it for a few minutes then started back in again. She knew she KNEW me, I was so and so's friend, we hung out at this guys house, etc, etc. 'No, I'm not his friend. No, we didn't.' I was polite about it and she eventually gave up for a bit.
A little while later she sat next to me and informed me that not only had we hung out a few times but we had sex at least that one time at the aforementioned guy's house.
I had no idea who she was but I didn't trust my mind enough to completely rule out the possibility that she wasn't completely fucking nuts and that we hadn't possibly fucked each other and I just didn't remember. I still don't completely know. So, I figured the best thing to do was to be noncommittal. Maybe we did! Maybe we didn't though.... Seemed to satisfy her curiosity(?)

A handful of people witnessed most of all this. I found out a little later on that night who she was. She was married with a few children, she was prone to running off on her husband, and he would routinely track her down and drag her out of wherever it was she had gotten to and threaten to kill, maim whoever was in the way.

I forgot about it. A few days later I was asleep in my apartment and my cell rang. It was this girls husband. He told me he knew I had been seeing his wife and that I was a dead man. He was gonna torture and then kill me.
I remember yelling back at him, asking him if he knew who I was(no one of note in reality, but that doesn't matter.)
He never showed to kill me, either. I don't think I ever had met the girl before. I'm almost sure I never had sex with her. But, do I know for sure? No.
This happened like 5 years ago and time has given me 0 amount of clarity in regard to that period of my life. Fun, fun.

Not saying this story if fake, but it makes you seem a little too cool for school..

 

[95Land]

^Right..... I made it up. How exactly does it make me seem "too cool for school?"
The parts of it that I would hope would be amusing in a disturbing type way to others are kind of disgusting in a amusing way to me.

Please don't tell me what happened and what didn't. I'm not saying you come across as a complete know-it-all in this thread.. Actually, I am saying that.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

^Right..... I made it up. How exactly does it make me seem "too cool for school?"
The parts of it that I would hope would be amusing in a disturbing type way to others are kind of disgusting in a amusing way to me.

Please don't tell me what happened and what didn't. I'm not saying you come across as a complete know-it-all in this thread.. Actually, I am saying that.

Not saying it's fake, just it makes you seem like a guy who forgets how many chicks he fucks, like in the story, ya know?

I am coming across as more than just a know-it-all in this thread, lol. You didn't need the "Actually.."

 

[95Land]

That wasn't my intention in posting that. It was more to illustrate that when you do that shit and are up for days on end, you begin to question what reality is and isn't. It's a really odd, frightening way to go through a period of a life.
I hope I never touched the girl. Trust me, she wasn't a brag about type.
I hope the fire department was never on the other side of my door plotting against me and prepping to knock down my apartment door. That was a constant fear of mine in the 10-12 months that I used meth regularly. I don't think the fire department was ever plotting against me but the lines between what is and what's just in your head get so blurred on that shit it's hard to see even in retrospect what's real and what was imagined. Even as ridiculous as some of the delusions might be.
So, yeah. Not attempting to brag about my meth fueled sexual conquests.

As far as the know-it-allism.... At least you can admit it and that's the first step to recovery. .

 

[Capricious]

I recall this time when I was on a 4 day meth binge, I was walking the streets of Hollywood around 3 or 4 in the morning. There were 100's of other addicts all over the place I get this thought that popped into my head ( buried money somewhere ) So I find my self digging near a sand box at a local park just fucked up & nearly incoherent...After about 10-15 of doing this a car drove in to the parking lot full of a bunch of cholos watching me...I felt in danger and started to walk away & felt like someone was behind me & soon went into a full sprint & could hear someone running behind me...I had a loaded pipe on me wrapped in cloth & threw it in a flower bed... I ran into an alley & a Hollywood police car shined a spot light on me & I froze in my tracks...who ever was chasing me was spotted too & double backed when they saw the police car... So the cop goes to chase them I knew it was one of the guys from the park earlier.


As soon as the cop went after that person I dipped and ran out of there. I found out a week or so latter that some Hispanic guys affiliated with the Mexican mafia were looking for someone that was trying to steal there stash. That was some scary shit. The number of times I went digging for imagined ( buried cash or drugs has been hair raising ) I've messed up my fingers nails since you can't really feel pain on meth..I have had dirt and other stuff in my finger nails to the point I was bleeding from under my nails. Another time I was in a sketchy area at train station where I was chased by some gang members who I assumed were trying to rob me. I have lucked out from so many dangerous stitutions it was only a mater of time before my luck ran out! I called the Meth life style quits for self preservation!

 

[LOGan1314]

The problem is the PERSON on meth, not the meth. It is possible to use meth responsibly and not go all crazy or whatever. I have never had a bad experience on amphetamines. The worst has been that I've gotten paranoid a couple times but I have social anxiety naturally so I don't even know if that was the amphetamines or if that was just me. It wasn't anything too crazy.

This + a million. So sick of people stealing shit from their family and innocent people and saying "well it's because I was up for 3 days on meth)" like that fucking makes it okay.

 

[ohshea]

^it doesnt make it ok or justify it in any way, but ive done things on meth i never wouldve done sober or on heroin.