Flower At what percentage of Delta-9 do you consider bud remediated?

[BourbonMac]

I know that for some people, they'll tolerate 1-1.5%, but 2% onwards wouldn't want it. Remediation, aka overuse of lights to kill of mold which ends up converting some THCa into D9 I believe, which can also damage terpenes. To be honest, I've never found any threads about remediation in this place, and can't really find much on Reddit either. Some homegrowers have had 1-2% levels without use of lights, while most people seem to believe that's impossible without remediation.

I grabbed a cheap 8th last night at 1.5% and was like dang, like that's fine but I typically want it below 1%, but that's just based off the whole idea that goes around the legal market, especially mine which has been legal for a long time and has real quality stuff, so when there's bud with higher D9, people will usually avoid the shit out of it. I hadn't even heard of remediation until I posted here in April wondering why my NYC Sour was 3%. According to how remediation works, it shouldn't have been still over 3% terps, it shouldn't have looked so sparkly and would've maybe produced black ash, but nah.

Any growers who might know more about remediation or ways that D9 can end up higher, feel free to give me some knowledge here, and otherwise, to anyone who knows much about remediation and buying in the legal market, what levels of D9 do you personally consider is remediated or too high?

 

[Jeebis2]

Bro, what the fuck? Lol. Remediation really doesnt effect the thc content of flower in the way you think it does. Damages terps? Yes.

Remediation is done a few different ways. Irradiation (giant microwaves more or less), uv, and ozone treatments are the 3 most common.

I also cant tell while reading your post what youre talking about because you switch from talking about camnabinoids to terp percentages. Im very confused. I run ny state-legal recreational dispensary and have been in this game almost 2 decades so message with more info

Also the black vs white ash myths going around are a whole different conversation lol

 

[BourbonMac]

I don't know that much about remediation and apparently very few people do in this forum either considering I never found one thread on it. I mean it obviously does increase THC levels some. Remediation is why I even had a strain at 36%. If you got confused by just X%, I don't know how, because unless I said "X% terps," I'm referring to the D9. I only referred to terps that way once.

I'm good on messaging you if that's the condescending tone you're gonna have, because this doesn't seem like a hard question to answer and you could've simply ignored everything but the last paragraph. The "black ash" was just a passing comment, I know ash color doesn't really mean that much.

 

[Jeebis2]

Hey homie, I wasnt trying to be condescending by telling you to message me, I just figured i could elaborate easier there. I honestly mean absolutely 0% ill will by my post and aplogize if I came off as such. I'm very experienced with remediation (the lab I used to work for literally developed the first CRC SOP for color remediation), but thats a blanket term. Remediation for what? Color as in crc? Specific cannabinoids? Mold and yeast/bacteria? Im just trying to understand what you're asking for, homie. Like I have no idea what you mean by "36%" 36% d-9? D-9 + thca post conversion? 36% total cannabinoids?

Remediation doesnt increase or decrease cannabinoids the way you think it does. Through certain methods that remove moisture content, I guess that would increase the thc content by weight, but youre not losing enough moisture to make the thc drastically higher.

The other issue here is "36%". Thats a lie full stop. Think about it logically, if that bud is 36% thc that means that more than 1/3rd of that nug in your hand is pure thc. That doesnt make any sense. It literally made the news when a farm in Washington had a bud stabilized at 35%, and there's a whole thing going on in Michigan with a 40% thc claim.

Please don't come at me, homie, when im asking clarifying questions trying to help. This is exactly why I dont drop knowledge in more posts here.

Also, ash color has so many factors that its almost a non-factor any more. Fertilizers, pesticides, soil type, cure, moisture contents, even the very method youre consuming have an effect on ash color

 

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[ageingpartyfiend]

I think all the cannabis supplied by legal medical providers here in uk is remediated - I know a couple people who are prescribed it, I'll ask.

Damages the terps you say @Jeebis2 ?

 

[Jeebis2]

I think all the cannabis supplied by legal medical providers here in uk is remediated - I know a couple people who are prescribed it, I'll ask.

Damages the terps you say @Jeebis2 ?

Depending on how youre remediation and what for, yes. Color remediation for concentrates deffinately fucks with terps, same with cannabinoid remediations.

Mold and yeast remediation would effect terps depending on how its remediated. Radiation and uv can deffinately damage terps. Ozone is your best bet for remediation from what ive seen....or just stop being terrible and grow good weed. Its really not that hard lol

 

[Allylbenzene]

I think all the cannabis supplied by legal medical providers here in uk is remediated - I know a couple people who are prescribed it, I'll ask.

Damages the terps you say @Jeebis2 ?

I made a thread about the dire situation with legal UK medical. I get the impression that UK patients are either oblivious, don't mind, or are just happy to get legal flower (despite it being contaminated).

The other issue here is "36%". Thats a lie full stop. Think about it logically, if that bud is 36% thc that means that more than 1/3rd of that nug in your hand is pure thc. That doesnt make any sense. It literally made the news when a farm in Washington had a bud stabilized at 35%, and there's a whole thing going on in Michigan with a 40% thc claim.

I've seen posts on the American medical groups about shady THC testing (eg 25% listed as 35%). It looks like some testing companies offer inflated THC % leading to stupid numbers like 35+... it sells the product I guess.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I made a thread about the dire situation with legal UK medical. I get the impression that UK patients are either oblivious, don't mind, or are just happy to get legal flower (despite it being contaminated).

You could be onto something there for sure. I know a couple people who are the opposite of oblivious though who get medical in uk - I'll have to get in their ears about it

 

[Allylbenzene]

I know a couple people who are the opposite of oblivious though who get medical in uk - I'll have to get in their ears about it

Show them that thread, and if they don't want to grow then theres always the DIY approach outlined in the thread...ie make THC from CBD isolate which must be around £3/g these days.

 

[BourbonMac]

Hey homie, I wasnt trying to be condescending by telling you to message me, I just figured i could elaborate easier there. I honestly mean absolutely 0% ill will by my post and aplogize if I came off as such. I'm very experienced with remediation (the lab I used to work for literally developed the first CRC SOP for color remediation), but thats a blanket term. Remediation for what? Color as in crc? Specific cannabinoids? Mold and yeast/bacteria? Im just trying to understand what you're asking for, homie. Like I have no idea what you mean by "36%" 36% d-9? D-9 + thca post conversion? 36% total cannabinoids?

Remediation doesnt increase or decrease cannabinoids the way you think it does. Through certain methods that remove moisture content, I guess that would increase the thc content by weight, but youre not losing enough moisture to make the thc drastically higher.

The other issue here is "36%". Thats a lie full stop. Think about it logically, if that bud is 36% thc that means that more than 1/3rd of that nug in your hand is pure thc. That doesnt make any sense. It literally made the news when a farm in Washington had a bud stabilized at 35%, and there's a whole thing going on in Michigan with a 40% thc claim.

Please don't come at me, homie, when im asking clarifying questions trying to help. This is exactly why I dont drop knowledge in more posts here.

Also, ash color has so many factors that its almost a non-factor any more. Fertilizers, pesticides, soil type, cure, moisture contents, even the very method youre consuming have an effect on ash color

Hey, haven't been on lately and then caught the awful H3N2 flu, shit was awful, but I appreciate that man. See, I'm mainly wondering about D9. There was this weed sub I was in on Reddit which is gone now because the dude went batshit arguing with people which sucked because it was a quaint little local sub about the legal market in my area, what brands to stay away from, subject of remediation which usually and pretty much only was ever discussed as far as high D9 levels. "If it's near 2% D9, it's remediated" basically. I'm sure that's true, but then apparently, it's not always true.

The bud that was apparently 36% had close to 2.5% D9, so I figured it was only above 35% because of remediation. To be fair though, it could've been a straight up lie on the label, I know that happens. I got GMO from Cali a few years back that said 42.8% THC and I straight up knew that couldn't be true. I don't know what it was, probably actually about 30%. It was crazy good shit, but it wasn't 42.8%, I knew only moonrocks could climb that high and this was plain flower from NorthHumboldt.

The 36% could still be a lie, these "Shaka" guys have a really fucked up reputation. Before I knew of that, I'd bought some bud from them because it was cheap at one of my dispos and it was really good shit, but that was just a fluke, probably not even their bud. They seem to have re-branded under "We-Dee" or some shit like that which is where I got the Lemon Jack that I ultimately gave away. It really wasn't frosty or sparkly either, it just had this... unhealthy look to it, so that bud was definitely remediated. Smelled like botanical terps were added or something because it just smelled wrong, like an actual cleaning product and not in the good way that some terps can present.

But yeah, I only knew about the subject of remediation in terms of the delta 9 percentage. I think the person who melted down who ran that sub had been clashing with someone about this actually, because they'd been saying something along the lines of "we're still learning more about remediation" and that higher D9 levels just don't always mean it is. Proximity to lights could cause higher D9 without the lights being used intentionally to burn off mold (guessing that's how it works?)