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Bupe at home withdrawal from longterm suboxone use

Day 9: one of my motivators is that I don't have the $ for it anymore.. the other is I got to the point where I loathed having to find it, finance and even get it ready then I started hating the vein destruction. I'm just done. Well I have a question maybe a dumb one but hey whatev... could I get away with doing a vicoden idk what mg it is but its white oblong n has red dots in it.... I just want me legs to stop shaking on the inside... no work til Thurs so I feel I'm gonna go nuts with nothing to occupy my time... is it a step back?
 
yes, you can get away w/ doing it, but its still just an opiate going into the body. sounds like a 7.5; just look it up on Google and describe the picture and it will tell you exactly what the MG is.

also, how much dope/opiates did you do before? if you were doing bundle after bundle, then 7.5 might not do much for withdrawal. but if you were doing a 30MG opiate a day, then that would def. HELP for the day but it would only be ONE DAY, if that. if you can get a decent amount of vikes you can taper yourself off, but again, these are opiates but might be an easier way off than what you have said before. you can use 5MG percs or vikes to help taper any large dosage.
 
I got loads of work and got really fucked up this weekend, and never got more than 5 hours of discontinued sleep, so I took 200mg tramadol yesterday (day 21bupe withdrawl) and it hit me hard! I I could sleep 10hours straight, I had taken loads of lope on the weekend to go with the other non opioid drugs and I didn't need to have any bowel movement and with the clonidine the restless leg syndrome, and also I don't feel like using Ketamine as an aid, which I was doing this past week....I've done 300mg tramadol on day 12 I think so just as lon as it's a weak opioid (an ES Vicodin is weak IMO) and you space out the use like 2/3 times a month I think you'll be fine, and on the up side it's a good way to see how much you improved when your tolerance has gotten that down, just never score oies again when you're done with your stash....I have 1gram of trams remaining but might give away 500mg....good luck with the w/d gonnastopitall eventually it gets better though I still feel like shit and I get all that unexplainable anger as well and say awful things and feel more violent, but then when I'm up/manic being sober (well on my w/d medications which are like 10drugs, only weed and LSD and rare coke use being illegal) I feel great today, I'd take trams over coke anyday....but I'm also planning on long term abstinence, I'm holding to the bupe I have left (about 80mg though, they expire in 2years, and someone might need it and it's expensive as shit here) but a friend is holding them....I'll get surgry soon but I'll ask for something with a way shorter half life for post-surgery....and just plan on taking as prescribed, good luck and congrats on making it almost 10 days!!
 
Forget what these guys are saying about quitting gradually. Buy yourself three pounds of Bali Kratom and 10 grams of UEI.

Stop taking the subs and 48 hours later make your first batch of kratom tea w/ 2 tablespoons of the Bali. Actually make tea with 6 tablespoons and then you should have enough for the whole day. Drink some every three hours. Tea works fast and it completely took away my withdrawal symptoms. Plan on taking 1g of UEI each night to get sleep until you run out.

At the end I was talking kratom just once a day, and I felt damn good, actually.
 
how much is bupe there? if you have bupe why are you using all this other shit? just taper w/ bupe. if you go to a rehab here they taper you w/ the bupe in 5 days; 80MG's is more than enough to get off an opiate the best way possible. you use the bupe and cut dramatically and then lag at the end and let be.
 
Hammilton said:
Forget what these guys are saying about quitting gradually. Buy yourself three pounds of Bali Kratom and 10 grams of UEI.

Stop taking the subs and 48 hours later make your first batch of kratom tea w/ 2 tablespoons of the Bali. Actually make tea with 6 tablespoons and then you should have enough for the whole day. Drink some every three hours. Tea works fast and it completely took away my withdrawal symptoms. Plan on taking 1g of UEI each night to get sleep until you run out.

At the end I was talking kratom just once a day, and I felt damn good, actually.
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I been hearing/seeing this lately; how long does it all take? just one day? week? you feel GOOD or just normal? you are FREE from opiates how quickly?
 
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If you have even a moderate sized habit, kratom really isn't going to do shit unfortunately. The shear amount you would have to take just to start getting at your withdrawal symptoms is just impractical. If you have a small habit and having been using a long time, Kratom can be great. I've seen it work for a lot of people that way.

If you were able to taper your bupe dosage down low enough to the point where Kratom would work.. then at that point, you might as well just keep tapering on the bupe and stop.
 
Day 10: well ended up taking 15mgs iv of morphine yesterday and I felt so idk normal. I had to help my baby daddy find a sub so he could keep taking predominant care of our son while I beat this thing... we can't both be sick at the same time... just won't work. So after searching and finally finding his sub I was promised a mopho to make me feel better by the time I got to it I mentally didn't want to n didn't feel too bad but stupid addictive behaviors persevered and I did it... today I woke up not feeling awful but thru the night kept tossing and turning I think I could feel the morph wearing off... gonna take some lope today I've tapered to 6mg instead of 8. And not that I need any more emotional baggage as I'm already in a mind f%$& my "dad" who was more of a sperm donor than anything has a cancer benefit sat. The day before my bday(26 and she don't know what she wants...) well he would like to dance with me. A daddy daughter dance if u will... every bone in my body says "ya n I wanted a father so suck it" bit my heart and wanting little girl in me tells me this may be ur only dance with him ever... pancreatic cancer n a man of 6ft.+ 350lbs. Down to 198... docs say not a death sentence yet but as of now he would not withstand the surgery... this contributes to most of my anger.. anyway had to get that out I guess...
 
Nah, a buddy of mine made a quarter kilo last him two weeks with a 1g of good dope a day habit. His guy wasn't around so I gave him my maeng da which I dislike, and he made tea, almost 1oz/day, but it worked for him.

Worked for me, too, but I was on 4mg sub / day, and I didn't just feel okay, for a few days, I was nodding off high.

If you had three pounds of Bali you could make 1oz worth into tea and drink a quarter of it at a time until you feel better. It'll make you feel better, that's for sure.

It doesn't matter if you're doing a gram or more a day, anything will make you feel a little better. Shit, when I was at my worst,'going through severe withdrawal, out of subs and out of dope, I scraped a tiny little line together, maybe 5mg of dope, and I felt much better for two hours. Sure, maybe a bit mental, but my restless legs were gone, and I usually have them normally.

If you've got a huge habit, yeah, it might not make you 100 percent, but it'll make you at least 75 percent, and if you go with full spectrum red extract, you'll probably be 125 percent if you're not nodding.

When the body is in withdrawal it doesn't take a huge dose to make you feel significantly improved. If you're on 8mg Suboxone and you're out, man, I'll guarantee that taking even .5mg after three days with nothing will greatly improve your sense of well-being.

I keep toying with going to kratom full time, so to speak, but I think I might just take kratom part time, in the middle of the month to help stretch my subs, maybe even save a few up.
 
i was shooting up 4mg for six months and before that taking 8mg a day for 6 months

tapered down to 2mg by sniffing it then down to 1mg then .25 within a two months i was off

get immodium also
 
what/why do you guys shoot the bupe? do you get a rush on the initial shot? I take 8MG and I could NEVER think of shooting a pill. maybe its just not me but I feel best using under the tongue. plus, it would push me to my old habits. I have SNIFFED before but only once or twice as of late. just cant picture jamming a full bupe down.
 
props to all those doing it the hard way. w/d fkin sux.

@gonnastopnow I know what it's like to be in w/d and have a parent with C, it's terrible. I have to wear sunglasses to hide my tears. I don't know but sometimes I think I'm better on oxy(more than prescibed (A LOT) when having to visit my mom cos I can keep it together, she's all I have left but on the otherhand I want to be real.
 
Day 13: I've been messing up I think. I've been taking 5/525 vikes to offset the shitty feeling but I don't want to have to do this forever. I'm about out of immodium no chance of getting that or anything else until I get paid next week so I have a feeling I'm in for it.... @whosajiggawhaa I hear ya bub I cry about it then get angry (like to the point where Id like to knock someone's head off) so ready fr this to be over already!! I want normalcy and I'm feeling a little no a lot discouraged..... fml
 
If you're at the point where only 5-10mg's of hydrocodone will stabilize you, you can detox. That is a really tiny habit, man. The withdrawals will not be that bad. Sure you'll be uncomfortable, but you will not be bed ridden and all messed up. The symptoms from that low of a dose of hydrocodone most likely wont even be severe enough for you to have to take off work.

You're lucky you're at a point where that little amount sustains you. Many people struggle for a very long time trying to taper down to a dose like that so they can detox.
 
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I'm telling you it's not going to be bad enough for you to "flip out". You'll have some mild discomfort, thats all.

Take ibprofen for aches and pains, immodium for stomach issues, diphenhydramine to sleep, a benzo to relax maybe (but not necessary), etc.
 
Day 15: my birthday.... feel like shit... took 2 vikes last night during my overnight shift. Now I'm laid up... another overnight tonight would it b a bad idea to take some sub? And if its safe how many MG's should I take? 1-2?
 
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