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Dissociatives Arylcyclohexylamine RCs and Psychedelics: Combinations

necropolis

necropolis

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Hello everyone, just wanted to get some info regarding combos with dissociatives and psychedelics.

I still have yet to try this, but I wanted to get some info and don't have the inclination or spare time to pore through reams of experience reports or search existing posts.

Thanks in advance for any pertinent info on this topic.

I'm thinking of using small doses of one or more of the newer psychedelic RCs and small to medium doses of a suitable dissociative in order to potentiate and/or enhance the visual aspects of the trip. Probably through permatolerance and maybe the lack of subjective novelty, I have lost most if not all of the visual fuckery that I used to love with PCP and others. I'm mainly referring to CEVs. About 4-5 years ago I could get deeply immersed in a visual fantasyland, but seem to have lost a lot of it within the past 2 years.

MXE was my favorite in this regard, as doses of 70-150 mg intranasal produced holes that blew fourth-plateau DXM out of the water...

I'm not asking for specific recommendations, out of repsect for the rules. Just general insights and advice on what to avoid.

Thinking about starting off with small doses of 4-AcO-MET or 5-Cl-DMT and going from there. In keeping with the spirit and principle of harm reduction, I'll do an initial allergy test followed by low doses of psychedelic material by itself, then work up to trying out various combos with a dissociative.

If anybody has insights/experiences, I'd love to hear them.
 
i started with dxm and cubensis regulary in my twenties, today its dck combined with 5meo-mipt or 4aco-det.
 
2c-b bodyload is too similar to mdma for my liking, great visuals combined with k/mxe/nitrous though.
I always felt 2c-i had all the visuals of 2c-b but less of the bodyload, everyone reacts differently of course
 
Many moons ago, I took about 150ug of LSD, with ketamine IM (80mg) at 45 mins and about 2.5 hours. I hid under B9's computer desk and about the 3hr mark, I came out with tears rolling down my face. When questioned if I was OK, all I could repeat was "It's all too beautiful" (thank you Small Faces!) until my body had metabolized/excreted most of the ketamine, when my usual ability to talk incessantly. Absolutely wonderful.
I would also recommend ketamine & DPT, IM'ed at the same time (ket~80mg & 40mg of DPT). Best description I have of the whole thing was the first 45 mins were what I assume it's like to have to abandon a jet via the ejector seat. Levelled out about 1 hour, when due to having Hendrix playing on headphones, all I could see, with eyes closed, were swirling purple colours, not unlike the colour of Cadbury's Dairy Milk wrapper (yes, that was while Purple Haze was playing! 😁). All in all, another example of how beautiful psychedelics mix with ketamine.
Oh happy days!
 
necropolis said:
Hello everyone, just wanted to get some info regarding combos with dissociatives and psychedelics.

I still have yet to try this, but I wanted to get some info and don't have the inclination or spare time to pore through reams of experience reports or search existing posts.

Thanks in advance for any pertinent info on this topic.

I'm thinking of using small doses of one or more of the newer psychedelic RCs and small to medium doses of a suitable dissociative in order to potentiate and/or enhance the visual aspects of the trip. Probably through permatolerance and maybe the lack of subjective novelty, I have lost most if not all of the visual fuckery that I used to love with PCP and others. I'm mainly referring to CEVs. About 4-5 years ago I could get deeply immersed in a visual fantasyland, but seem to have lost a lot of it within the past 2 years.

MXE was my favorite in this regard, as doses of 70-150 mg intranasal produced holes that blew fourth-plateau DXM out of the water...

I'm not asking for specific recommendations, out of repsect for the rules. Just general insights and advice on what to avoid.

Thinking about starting off with small doses of 4-AcO-MET or 5-Cl-DMT and going from there. In keeping with the spirit and principle of harm reduction, I'll do an initial allergy test followed by low doses of psychedelic material by itself, then work up to trying out various combos with a dissociative.

If anybody has insights/experiences, I'd love to hear them.
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Do you have experience with 5cldmt? If so, how is it?
 
4-HO-MiPT (oral) + MXPr (oral) was the most beautiful psychedelic/dissociative combination I‘ve tried. Absolutely wonderful and extremely euphoric. Was literally writhing in pleasure for a solid 2 hours.

Further great combinations:
1P-LSD (sublingual) + 2-FDCK (oral),
DCK (oral) + 2C-B (oral)
2C-B (oral) + Ketamine (intranasal)
2C-D (oral) + Ketamine (intranasal)
 
Nowadays I frequently combine psychedelics and/or empathogens with a dissociative, it's where transcendence lives as far as I can tell. So, at the risk of going slightly off-topic (is a diarylethylamine acceptable...?), I'll be a cheerleader for:-

ALD-52 + Ephenidine

but a very close second goes to:-

1CP-LSD + DMXE
 
deficiT said:
Mxe + 4acodmt = godlike transcendence
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I tried this once but apparently got the doses wrong. I think I used 35 mg of MXE and 20 of 4-AcO-DMT. I became a mess. Extremely disoriented and manic. I went outside and peed in plain sight in a public park just outside my house. Never tried it again after that. I suppose I should have lowered the MXE dose?



On the other hand I've had plenty of marvelous disso + psych combos. 80 mg of IM Ketamine and 20 mg 4-HO-MET gave me one of the most intricate and ineffable holes of my life. Had one of my most euphoric trips of 6 mg 3-MeO-PCP and 100 ug 1P-LSD. 3-MeO-PCE and 5-MEO-MiPT rounded each other nicely and had a lucid, electric and joyous high. 5 mg 3-MeO-PCP + 20 mg 3C-P and 1 gram of phenibut was one of the greatest rave combos. Recently had 15 mg of MXE with 40 mg of 2C-C, and while I could have easily dosed more 2C-C, MXE eliminated everything I had previously disliked about 2C-C, so I think I'll add a small dose of a disso from now of everytime I take it.
 
Img_9999 said:
I tried this once but apparently got the doses wrong. I think I used 35 mg of MXE and 20 of 4-AcO-DMT. I became a mess. Extremely disoriented and manic. I went outside and peed in plain sight in a public park just outside my house. Never tried it again after that. I suppose I should have lowered the MXE dose?



On the other hand I've had plenty of marvelous disso + psych combos. 80 mg of IM Ketamine and 20 mg 4-HO-MET gave me one of the most intricate and ineffable holes of my life. Had one of my most euphoric trips of 6 mg 3-MeO-PCP and 100 ug 1P-LSD. 3-MeO-PCE and 5-MEO-MiPT rounded each other nicely and had a lucid, electric and joyous high. 5 mg 3-MeO-PCP + 20 mg 3C-P and 1 gram of phenibut was one of the greatest rave combos. Recently had 15 mg of MXE with 40 mg of 2C-C, and while I could have easily dosed more 2C-C, MXE eliminated everything I had previously disliked about 2C-C, so I think I'll add a small dose of a disso from now of everytime I take it.
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Yeah, damn man sorry about your experience with it. I love combining dissos and psychs it is generally really fun, and they play off each other for a truly rounded out experience.

My most recent combo has been 2fdck and DMT, which was pretty incredible.
 
One the most awesome combo's I've ever experienced was 8mg 2c-p dosed orally just as I injested 50mg o-pce rectally.
I had a glorious hole on the o-pce and it made the 2c-p come on much faster and harder and paired wonderfully....though 8mg of 2c-p I can normally handle without issue but with the o-pce it was very intense (manageable) but possibly too intense for inexperienced users.
Fucking EPIC from my perspective though.
 
The most best highs I've ever had were from mxe +mdma.

The high itself has a euphoria and comfort reminiscent of hard non psychedelic drugs and the CEVs were like watching all kinds of 3D scenery where everything was made out of artists glitter on a black backdrop.

Its like the mdma took all the fear or weirdness out of the mxe.

The drugs synergized so well.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
The most best highs I've ever had were from mxe +mdma.
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Me and my friend tried this one time. We took less than our normal doses and took the MXE after the MDMA, I believe as the peak was subsiding. For me I don't remember it being particularly memorable, but he loved it and said the entire M-hole felt like he was still rolling.
 
ecstacylover said:
Me and my friend tried this one time. We took less than our normal doses and took the MXE after the MDMA, I believe as the peak was subsiding. For me I don't remember it being particularly memorable, but he loved it and said the entire M-hole felt like he was still rolling.
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The reverse is how you do it to get the right effect. Tske the mdma full dose on the tail of the mxe.

Taking st the same time wasn't even thst great. Something about priming the brain first with mxe is what makes this work
 
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