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Are you "sober passing"?

No word of a lie, I actually did this the other day.

I went to a supermarket absolutely hammered on vodka when the urge suddenly took me.

Much to my dismay, the river began to flow straight into my rigger boots. I've never felt such a tramp in my life before.

Talk about a wake up call.


I've now decided to never visit that store again...


:LOL:
 
i have a cross between a beatles hair cut and a mullet and i wear tie-dye, so i'm not really sure what people think. usually i can talk with out having to think about it and i usually have pretty normal responses. sometimes if i get nervous during transactions at stores, my hands will shake a little if i have enough caffeine. no one ever really says anything.

i used to cry all the time while traveling on buses and trains to work when i had a worse problem with my back and my job was bothering it... i used to do tai chi while waiting for the bus or train and a few times people video taped me. i was a black belt in karate as a kid and studied some other types of martial arts, so i don't think i looked foolish or anything. i had pretty good breathing patterns and it helped my back and central nervous system. i kind of hoped i'd find some of the footage on you tube. i'm kind of surprised the train security or cops never said anything to me. it was when weed was only a hundred dollar fine if you got cought with under an ounce, so i was totally not paranoid to be stoned and with weed in public all the time. i think some people on the bus might've not liked it even though they all stunk like BO, hair gel and deoderant. i remember one time i was crying on the bus and blowing my nose a lot. i was talking to the bus driver like "damn. allergies. this stuff is crazy". he was like "yeah sure thing."

i've said this on the net before, i'm pretty sure people with mental disorders stop people from assuming people are on drugs a lot of times. they don't want to make an assumption and offend people.

i was working as a dish washer at a restaurant one time and on a good amount of adderall. the head of the kitchen came up to me and was like "i went to virginia one time and there was a long tunnell i had to go through". he never said random shit to me and i swear he just wanted to look at me like he was disapointed in me for taking drugs. i think it was "it's not what you say it's how you say it." i'll never know for sure though.

i think a person has to really freak out a lot for authorities to bother them about being on drugs. one of the not so bad things about society imo.
 
So the cia can hack
into my t.v. and listen
to every word I say, but
Mcdonald's can't hear
me say ' no pickles' thru
their drive-thru speaker !!!

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So the cia can hack
into my t.v. and listen
to every word I say, but
Mcdonald's can't hear
me say ' no pickles' thru
their drive-thru speaker !!!

HW6EbIK.gif
Exactly.

One reason I can't buy into most conspiracy theories is that they usually assume that "they" (pick your supervillian-- fed govt, freemasons, democrats, the illuminati, the jews, etc) are all in agreement on their goals and how to achieve them, are extremely efficient, are excellent communicators, and everybody that's "in on it" can keep a secret.

I've observed human beings for 64 years and I've never seen a group of two or more people who can achieve all of that for a significant amount of time.
 
I think I pass on the sober test as long as I am on a drug routine ( for me right now its 16mg of bupe, some xanax, nicotine and caffeine... getting off the xanax soon) and not taking anything like methamphetamine or mdma. Eventually the drugs just become your baseline. Plus when I shave and wear glasses I can make myself look really young and innocent.
 
I could put a police uniform on and look the part. I got into drugs about 15 years ago and you wouldn't even think i smoked weed if you saw me. Good genes and hydration and also keeping yourself looking tidy most couldn't tell if people use. Keeping in shape helps also.
Now if i wore dirty clothes, didn't brush my hair and wore dirty clothes i'm sure i would.
 
Now if i wore dirty clothes, didn't brush my hair and wore dirty clothes i'm sure i would
... look like undercover? :shrug:
Doesn't matter what I do....
Thinking is more about how one carries oneself moreso than looks not saying that looks doesn't make a difference in another's perspective.
Today, yeah, sober looking.
 
Im really good at hiding my drug use when im out and about, for the most part. Use dissociatives pretty heavily and i will take pretty massive doses when i wake up in the afternoon. Sometimes i will redose an hour or so before i leave to goto work for the night. By the time i get there after my commute im generally at the end of my peak, im still able to cook my orders just fine so nobody ever says shit to me.

Im also a really big dude and i dont take shit from anybody so i think that they are also abit intimidated by me so that keeps them from questioning me as well. Thankfully i dont have to hide my drug use from my girlfriend so i get completely blasted when im around her sometimes.

She had actually kept me from getting into sketchy situations in public a couple times when i holed while we were driving and then went to get out of the car in a walking hole on FXE and her little 5 foot as dragged me back to the car and put me in my seat. When i started coming down she was like wtf Charlie, i guess we arent shopping today.

And then we drove home, lol. One time we were in this store shopping and i picked up a Christmas Tree and put it on my shoulder and was walking thru the aisles turning about almost knocking stuff over, she rushed us out of the store that time as well. So id say its half and half, when im working im generally fine if i dont dose while im there.

But on my day off when im really going for it i have been known to do some wacky shit in public. One time i walked into Walmart singing a Kiss song at the top of my lungs on 3-MeO-PCE. Got everyone's attention and was followed by security and went into some ladies cart took out a clock and threw it over my shoulder...she got pissed.

Then walked up to a father and soon and told the kid its not fault your father dropped outta school and i became a wizard, they looked so confused. Think i was having a conversation in my head. Then i walked up to this dude in an army uniform and i hugged him, he then proceeded punch me in the throat and i dropped to the ground gasping for air.

That was when security apprehended me and had the police take me to the psych ward

obviously im a little crazy 😵‍💫
 
Extreme poverty is THE way to remain sober.

I take the medications prescribed AS prescribed and nothing else at all.
Exactly, I recently was convinced to go to inpatient substance abuse treatment and I’m actually out on pass now which is how I have my phone, but they told me I had adhd and told me that if I don’t take the meds then I have a higher chance of relapse. I was leery of it because idk if I really buy that I have adhd and I was leery of being given a prescription for adhd meds but I made a non negotiable with myself that if I am going to take them that I will only take them as prescribed and I have so far. I haven’t cheeked any or anything to get high. I used to do meth by the way and they know that so imagine my surprise when they wanted to prescribe me stimulants.

To my surprise the vyvanse actually does help and I haven’t had any cravings for the meth analogue since starting about 2 months ago. Anyway, I just wanted to say that setting that boundary with myself to only ever take meds as prescribed and it’s a non negotiable for me was empowering. I realize the real test comes when I complete inpatient next week and am home BUT I’m also giving my mother the medication to dispense to me and she lives in a completely different house that is like a fortress, just in case I get a stupid thought and don’t play the tape thru. Doesn’t hurt to have protections in place. I don’t even know if you can abuse vyvanse if you used to do meth and I am also not going to try to find out.
 
EMPOWERING - what an excellent choice of wording. I don't watch the clock so maybe sometimes I take a dose 30 or 60 minutes late... but when I misused drugs, it's as if my body clock KNEW the moment a dose was due.

I think I previously mentioned that I thought Vyvanse was a really god idea (like simply taking Oxycontin as prescribed). Because their is a significant time difference between when you take the medication and when it begins working, the brain loses that unconscious urge to take something because it's not like moments later it will hit you.

MAYBE a treatment for cocaine dependence is a modified version of cocaine that is orally active but has a much slower onset and longer duration? Ritalin and various other stimulants have been tried but we now know that cocaine causes physical dependence so those substitutes... won't.
 
... look like undercover? :shrug:
Doesn't matter what I do....
Thinking is more about how one carries oneself moreso than looks not saying that looks doesn't make a difference in another's perspective.
Today, yeah, sober looking.
ive tried to score dope and been called a narc from my appearance, 40yr old woman in good shape and definitely don't look or speak like an addict . I have a degree in engineering and always kept in shape. i definitely don't look like someone on drugs..quite the opposite. People see a woman in their 40's in great shape and assume i'm a narc. Going to a doctor with my education/looks was so easy to keep my opioid script . Hindsite i wish i was cut off, would have saved years of addiction/wd's. I know lawyers and government officials that are major coke heads but society seems to judge on appearances.
I could talk myself into 3 "lost" hydromorph scripts and my doctor just believes me, because i don't look the part
 
Truth Jenn. My home was burgled and the doctor is CONVINCED I made the whole story up because I was abusing Oxycontin. I've been on it for years and I've never lost a single pill, never asked for an increase and never asked for a refill early.

But while I'm severely disabled, the same accident smashed out most of my top row of teeth and since I have epilepsy I cannot go to an NHS dentist. Either I have to wait for 8 years for a dental surgeon or I have to pay...

BUT if you are unable to work due to disability, you aren't allowed to save! Really. You can lose all of your benefits if you have more than £6000 (the surgery costs £12000).

So I LOOK dodgy but you would think that having been with the same doctor for over 12 years, they might have had a bit of faith in me.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm being punished so they can get me to move. The way UK doctors work is they get £615/year per enrolled patient (even if that patient NEVER goes to the surgery and is always well). My surgery took on a STACK of people for the short-term money and discovered a lot of them actually needed treatment.

THEY don't pay for the treatment - they bill the central government but they want a huge number of patients who NEVER EVER interrupt their profit-making scheme.
 
Truth Jenn. My home was burgled and the doctor is CONVINCED I made the whole story up because I was abusing Oxycontin. I've been on it for years and I've never lost a single pill, never asked for an increase and never asked for a refill early.

But while I'm severely disabled, the same accident smashed out most of my top row of teeth and since I have epilepsy I cannot go to an NHS dentist. Either I have to wait for 8 years for a dental surgeon or I have to pay...

BUT if you are unable to work due to disability, you aren't allowed to save! Really. You can lose all of your benefits if you have more than £6000 (the surgery costs £12000).

So I LOOK dodgy but you would think that having been with the same doctor for over 12 years, they might have had a bit of faith in me.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm being punished so they can get me to move. The way UK doctors work is they get £615/year per enrolled patient (even if that patient NEVER goes to the surgery and is always well). My surgery took on a STACK of people for the short-term money and discovered a lot of them actually needed treatment.

THEY don't pay for the treatment - they bill the central government but they want a huge number of patients who NEVER EVER interrupt their profit-making scheme.
And i bet i played the game you developed, gaming has kept me somewhat sane over the years. Messed up system we have now medical wise but canada is far ahead the uk when it comes to addicts
 
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