We're talking about the same thing Yougene.
So you're saying just because the Moon isn't a giant coconut it isn't true? Well, what if in some other realm of "reality" there is this thing called a coconut and "they" decided to make a simulation where they have this thing called a Moon that is an exact replication of what "they" call a coconut. How would you know?
You wouldn't. Exactly my point
A simulation isn't reality nor does it try to be nor can it. This is semantics (word play). That's not the point.
A simulation is a model.
Reality does not follow a model. Chaos to order, remember? Or order to chaos. Or chaos and sometimes order. Or neither.
Or both. And maybe the words don't fit the meaning. And maybe its a difference in opinion.
A simulation is always ordered. For then you have control. If you do not have control of the simulation then there is chaos.
And chaos can't happen in a system/simulation because its turns to poop (thats ho ho hee hee ha ha for ya). This is where the idea of quantum computing gets fuzzy where you have the infinite shift between 0 and 1.
And it is sort of the same argument as Pi (or what the movie suggests). Is the sheer idiocy of mapping chaos. Look at the grass. Do you see an ordered pattern that is mappable? No. Can you have an ordered pattern?
Sure. Can you drop acid and see the grass as a bunch of snakes? Sure thing pluckum. Can you ignore the grass when you play golf? Uh-huh.
Where a simulated reality, because this is what we are indeed talking about, fails is that it has to be ordered. Otherwise there is no control.
You cannot simulate perfect chaos. Because chaos isn't perfect. Then you have a reality.
Which is the snake eating its own tail. And a return to the definition of a reality.
If you can prove that we live in an ordered simulation then you prove that God does indeed exist. That's the riddle.
Where the better question lies is that can God and chaos coexist?
My answer is yes. But its a better answer because in truth it is an unknown.
Which I like. A lot.
You've read my other posts Yougene so you have a glance of how I think.
I dont mean to hijack the thread.