Are too many Seahawk fans becoming alcohol-fueled bullies?

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Two NFL fans witnessed troubling behavior from Seahawks fans at last Sunday’s Seahawks-49ers game at CenturyLink Field that led to unsolicited emails sent this week to The Seattle Times. Sarah Brown of Vancouver, Wash., and Rick Turner of Snoqualmie offer two very different perspectives – one a newcomer’s viewpoint and the other that of a longtime Seahawk fan – before Sunday’s final regular-season home game against the St. Louis Rams.

By Sarah Brown

My friends and family purchased 36 tickets to the Seahawks-49ers game Dec. 23 game, a trip we had planned since September. Our group, which was almost evenly split between Seahawk and 49er fans, headed up to Seattle to have a great time and enjoy the game.

Unfortunately, neither of those things happened.

Before the game, as we walked down First Avenue to CenturyLink Field, both my 14-year-old son and his friend, were verbally assaulted by Seahawks fans because they were wearing 49ers items. My son’s friend was wearing an Oregon Ducks rain jacket. One Seahawks fan walking behind us screamed at him, “Do you know what I (bleeping) hate more than the (bleeping) Niners? The (bleeping) Oregon Ducks!”

I told him, “He is 14 years old! He is just a kid, and you need to shut up!” The fan apologized.

About three minutes later, a Seahawks fan screamed in my son’s face: “The Niners (bleeping) suck! Go the (bleep) home!”

When I yelled at the fan to shut up, he told me, “Shut the (bleep) up!” and disappeared into the crowd.

At this point, I was fuming. It looked like a long night. It was just the beginning.

Inside the stadium, we walked up the ramps that led up to our seats. Three Seahawks fans walked by, and one stuck his face inches from my husband’s face and screamed profanity about the Niners, then ran away.

Throughout the game, every 49er fan in our group was screamed at, cussed at, even pushed and threatened that they were “going to get their ass kicked.” If any 49er fan left his or her seat, they had to take a Seahawk “bodyguard” with us.

We couldn’t enjoy the game because our primary concern was our safety.

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what did they expect? i'd never go to any sporting event and sit in a section wearing the colours of a different team, thats just fucking stupid.
 
i against i said:
what did they expect? i'd never go to any sporting event and sit in a section wearing the colours of a different team, thats just fucking stupid.
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In most American cities, we are civilized enough to welcome fans of opposing teams.

(Unless they are New York Jets fans. Jets fans are so obnoxious that they deserve to be viciously persecuted)
 
^^^pfft

fuck that

thats what happens at football games, im not saying its right but its part of the experience

same shit happens at the cowboys games, ive gone to plenty, im usually rooting for the cowboys but i was at the cowboys bucs game rootin for the bucs (born in tampa) n i decided not to wear any bucs shit, i wore my florida state shit, all the bucs fans knew who i was rootin for but i didnt get chastized by the boys fans

ive seen other teams fans hold thier own, its fuckin football n its a bunch of drunk bastards, if u dont like the "experience" then watch the game at home, its fucked up that the dude was yellin at the 14 year old kid but sooner or later your kid cant be sheltered for life mom, life is full of dicks, you gotta deal with it
 
^ no matter how much you say that it is just life, and we should deal with it, my mind keeps coming back to
life is full of dicks
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So, they are being dicks, and you know that.
I am not sure why I should have to deal with that, though.
I would take your advice and watch from home rather than deal with dicks.
Doesn't it feel kinda warlike and tribal to give up your independent identity and exist as only a cell in the mass like that, though?
 
Yelling at the kids is pretty low class but some friendly ribbing is too be expected when you attend a road game. If you cant take the heat get out of da kitchen
 
slimvictor said:
I am not sure why I should have to deal with that, though.
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its life


you can do something to change it, you can ignore it, you can talk shit back, etc; but no matter what you choose you are doin somethin to 'deal' with a certain situation

thats all im tryin to say really

and as far as the last line of your post, i think that part of the appeal might lie in that warlike tribal mentality, i dont really know n i cant say from experience cuz i dont get like that when i go to the games, but i do enjoy watchin the other teams fans get hassled, maybe im a dick for takin some form of enjoyment outta that but it is what it is, im really gonna think on what you said bout that warlike tribal mentality n keep that in the front of my mind next time i go to a game
 
crimsonjunk said:
Yelling at the kids is pretty low class but some friendly ribbing is too be expected when you attend a road game.
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i tend to agree.

i once attended a red sox v. yankees game at yankee stadium and i was the only person in the section wearing a red sox cap. i got a lot of (mostly good-natured) abuse and it was fine. i'm an adult and i made my choice.

getting up in kids' faces and swearing at them is pretty low class.
HighonLife said:
same shit happens at the cowboys games, ive gone to plenty, im usually rooting for the cowboys...
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see you in the playoffs :)

alasdair
 
For all the Bad Press that Soccer get's .

Kids are always treated really good at Soccer Grounds . I've been watching footy since i was 8 years old my Dad used to take me.
I have continued to do so all my adult life .
All over Europe i have watched Football & never have i experienced young kids getting treated like that.
 
^ I have seen at least 5 dozen pro baseball and basketball games in my lifetime, and have never seen or heard of anything like that either.
Could it be that (American) football fans are the only ones who think it is okay to treat other fans - including children - like that?
 
as alasdair said

if you dont think baseball fans get that way you've never been to a sox yankees game

n i saw quite a bit of this behavior at a mavs spurs game

its not just football, but football maybe the worst
 
slimvictor said:
Could it be that (American) football fans are the only ones who think it is okay to treat other fans - including children - like that?
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American Football definitely has it's share of rowdy, obnoxious fans, but it's not a universal phenomenon. Here in Nebraska, college football is a big deal, especially University of Nebraska-Lincoln football because we don't have any other sports teams to root for. On gameday, the UNL stadium is the third-most populated area in the entire state (around 85,000 people), so as you can imagine, the fans are pretty passionate. However, over the years we've also developed a reputation as being some of the most hospitable fans in the country to visiting teams, and that makes me pretty proud. Many people throw tailgate parties for visiting fans to hang out and have a few beers with the locals before the game and on the few rare occasions that I've seen (drunk) Nebraska fans get obnoxious towards visitors, they were quickly told to "shut the fuck up". I've NEVER seen someone swear at a child before.

In my experience (with a few notable exceptions), college football fans are usually pretty respectful of their opponents. Professional Football is something else entirely. Shitting on your opponent's team in Pro games is pretty much par for the course.
 
I'm pretty sure pandering to atavistic tribal warfare instincts is very much the aim of big for-profit professional sports leagues everywhere. This is not an itch I need to scratch too often, but to each his own. I'd rather see people get this primal passion stoked by sports fandom than by politics or gang warfare or even business. Still, even getting into this mindset in a fairly tame environment can get people hurt sometimes.

Collegiate and not for profit sports leagues are a different story. Their fandom is communal and gentlemanly by nature, because the games are held and people attend, at least ostensibly, for some higher purpose. For-profit sports leagues have no external purpose, and have no reason not to do whatever it takes to drum up as many drunken butts in seats as possible.
 
slimvictor said:
Doesn't it feel kinda warlike and tribal to give up your independent identity and exist as only a cell in the mass like that, though?
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90% of the population try to get as much off this feeling crammed into each and every day of their miserable existences. For the small percentage that doesn't get their fix at the office or in daily traffic, there is always the stadium or possibly organized crime although those 2 phenomena are not mutually exclusive over here in Europe (hooliganism)
 
These "football" fans need to go to a real "football" game in the UK and see how bad it can get. At least the Seahawks are doing good enough to incite some excitement in their fans. When I last lived there (dozen years) the game or two I went to was like watching golf.
 
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