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Are there any drugs that can be used as substitute for speed?

No, there is no substitute for a good amphetamine, although there are literally scores of good amphetamines to be had.
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Btw, if you don't get a 'kick' from eating meth, you aren't eating enough. Simple as that.
 
Speed, if you check out the Tihkal entry for AMT (on erowid.org or lycaeum.org) you will find out that ther reason it was created was to make an anti depressant with effects similar to amphetamine and that it was marketed as such in the 7 to 10 mg range i believe. check the info, it is most definitely speedy
 
Originally posted by SpeedJunkie:
Try take more speed next time and you'll feal the difference.

I would if speed was more common around here, meth, tho it is similar, is the most common/popular drug next to weed here. Even that makes me sick when I crash, so I tend to stay away from stronger stims than ephedrine and that's only cuz I'm fairly addicted to that shit which sucks
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I will check it out. I think I will buy some AMT, because I know someone on the webb that sells. Does AMT produce much euphoria?
Originally posted by Opoche:
Speed, if you check out the Tihkal entry for AMT (on erowid.org or lycaeum.org) you will find out that ther reason it was created was to make an anti depressant with effects similar to amphetamine and that it was marketed as such in the 7 to 10 mg range i believe. check the info, it is most definitely speedy
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Originally posted by SpeedJunkie:
Khat is a plant that contains ephedrine and some other chemicals, and I don't like ephedrine, since it don't produce much euphoria.

he fuck i hate ephedrine too but who told you KHAT contains ephedrine because this is not true! KHAT contains ephedrine related substances just like meth-amp is ephedrine related.
KHAT contains cathinone and cathine and probably something else. i never had the oppurtunity to try meth-cathinone but from what i read on trip reports the effects of meth-cath don t resemble KHAT. i guess KHAT has to contain an coctail of sustances. the effects are very unique and have only similarities with mdma speed coke and ephedrine. it is good stuff if you dont mind chewing branches. all night ... long.
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I checked up the facts and it seems that you are right.Then it's more interesting than I thought. But does it produce any real kick like speed does?
Originally posted by emkee:

he fuck i hate ephedrine too but who told you KHAT contains ephedrine because this is not true! KHAT contains ephedrine related substances just like meth-amp is ephedrine related.
KHAT contains cathinone and cathine and probably something else. i never had the oppurtunity to try meth-cathinone but from what i read on trip reports the effects of meth-cath don t resemble KHAT. i guess KHAT has to contain an coctail of sustances. the effects are very unique and have only similarities with mdma speed coke and ephedrine. it is good stuff if you dont mind chewing branches. all night ... long.
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it depends what kick your looking for. it most certainly is an intense experience but like i wrote you ll have to chew branches for a very long time and the effects come up gradually but in the end its imo more complete then speed. you will feel stimulated and sedated at the same time.

if there was an pill containing all active ingredients KHAT has it would be quite an touch down when it kicks in! but the form nature delivers it it takes time.

so if your in to speed for the kick or rush produced by injecting, smokin or even snorting it won t compare to khat. but if you mean the kick of the longer lasting effects of speed you will most def like khat, because it will fuck you up more then speed. speed is primarely an stimulant and khat is more an euphoriant.
 
I agree that psychedelics give the most meaningful experiences, but amphetamine is the easiest way to happiness.

DJAngrE said:
8( psychadelics are a good replacement for speed, you actually get something out of them!
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I wanna try Khat. It seems like real euphoric and nice. But someone should extract it and make pills of it, to avoid the chewing.

emkee said:
it depends what kick your looking for. it most certainly is an intense experience but like i wrote you ll have to chew branches for a very long time and the effects come up gradually but in the end its imo more complete then speed. you will feel stimulated and sedated at the same time.

if there was an pill containing all active ingredients KHAT has it would be quite an touch down when it kicks in! but the form nature delivers it it takes time.

so if your in to speed for the kick or rush produced by injecting, smokin or even snorting it won t compare to khat. but if you mean the kick of the longer lasting effects of speed you will most def like khat, because it will fuck you up more then speed. speed is primarely an stimulant and khat is more an euphoriant.
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I have bought 2-ci and I am going to try that as the substitute. I also checked up on AMT, but most people that have done it don't think it is a good party-drug. So I decided not to use AMT.
 
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