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Are there any drugs that can be used as substitute for speed?

Thanks for the advice. I think I will try 2-ci.
Originally posted by Crimson Cloud:

Yeah it's a tryptamine, but at low doses it feels more like a stimulant than a psychedelic imo. I'm talking about doses less than 20mg. But if it's a phen your after, like someone else said, maybe you should look into 2-ci, since you said that you have access to it.
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Frankly you are not going to find a drug that satisfies you in exactly the same way. If you really are a "speed junkie," perhaps you should focus on some of the drugs mentioned like BZP and ephedrine, even though as you say they do not offer the same euphoria, simply to allow your body the chance to restore itself. The side effects you mentioned hardly seem that severe, and you can and should expect similar mild side effects with most drugs.
 
Nose running: Don't snort. Eat your stimulants.
You could give 4-methylaminorex a try. It's somewhat hard to find, but I don't find that it has as harsh a comedown or aftereffects. It isn't as euphoric as meth/amph but it's alot better than bzp or ephedrine.
You could also try methcathinone, chemically similar to ephedrine, but a better high...still not GREAT...but definitely better than ephedrine, and better than bzp IMO.
I think you would get similar effects from khat.
 
KHAT is an great option. i used a lot of it a while ago and fresh KHAT with green tea IMO is better then SPEED.
and better then COKE, which you could also use as an sustitute for SPEED. have you thought about that one. the comedown and day after of KHAT is much less hard then coke and speed.
MDMA?
 
Actually I was kidding. Last time I took speed it didn't do a whole lot other than keep me up for a long period of time and make me have stonger muscle twitches than usual (but these developed most likely from other stimulants) I didn't find it to be euphoric in any way, but I did notice I get pretty much the same effects taking ephedrine and caffiene or a couple of those enegry drinks.
 
Actually I was kidding. Last time I took speed it didn't do a whole lot other than keep me up for a long period of time and make me have stonger muscle twitches than usual (but these developed most likely from other stimulants) I didn't find it to be euphoric in any way, but I did notice I get pretty much the same effects taking ephedrine and caffiene or a couple of those enegry drinks.
That my friend sounds like some shit speed
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Originally posted by SpeedJunkie:
Amphetamine is a very strong and euphoric drug. You can't replace it with mild drugs like ginseng or caffeine. Drugs like BZP and ephedrine are also not a substitute, since they don't give any kick and not much euphoria. I don't take speed to stay awake. I take it for the pleasure.

If u wanna feel peppy & euphoria take MDMA!
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I like speed-drinks sometimes, but eating it is not as good as snorting, since
it don't produce the kick that snorting does. I don't like eating speed, because the high lasts far too long.
Originally posted by Negro-kitty:
Nose running: Don't snort. Eat your stimulants.
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Khat is a plant that contains ephedrine and some other chemicals, and I don't like ephedrine, since it don't produce much euphoria.
Originally posted by emkee:
KHAT is an great option. i used a lot of it a while ago and fresh KHAT with green tea IMO is better then SPEED.
and better then COKE, which you could also use as an sustitute for SPEED. have you thought about that one. the comedown and day after of KHAT is much less hard then coke and speed.
MDMA?
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But maybe WITH the other chemicals khat DOES provide some euphoria.
Don't be so quick to dismiss everything!
 
^^^
Your right, if you take some ephedrine to get you going. Then take a half dose of GHB and its very euphoric and very speedy :)
its one of my favorites
 
Try take more speed next time and you'll feal the difference.
Originally posted by XxPyrroGyrrlxX:
Actually I was kidding. Last time I took speed it didn't do a whole lot other than keep me up for a long period of time and make me have stonger muscle twitches than usual (but these developed most likely from other stimulants) I didn't find it to be euphoric in any way, but I did notice I get pretty much the same effects taking ephedrine and caffiene or a couple of those enegry drinks.
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yea, that will be my plan for the weekend. I trip on E every second weekend. Ofcourse the euphoria that E gives is more intense than with speed. But speed lasts longer and it is the easiest way to happiness. But E gets me on the right track, and speed often gets me on the wrong track, so my first
step will be to replace the speed with first smoking weed and then taking low doses of E.
Originally posted by sallycow:
Yo, take a SMALL dose of mdma. With caffiene. And if you're feeling adventurous, copious amounts of whiskey ;)
Seriously though, I went out on half a pill and a lot of caffiene and felt very speedy without the need to sit on my arse, hug people all night, gurn and generally be an ass.
It was the whiskey that made me be an ass! ;)
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Yea you're right. Don't knock it till you tried it. But from what I've heard khat is not that impressive.
Originally posted by Negro-kitty:
But maybe WITH the other chemicals khat DOES provide some euphoria.
Don't be so quick to dismiss everything!
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Actually, I think the side effects are worse with ephedrine than with speed. I don't feel much effects from the ephedrine, so I have ended up taking very much and then the next day I get stomachache except from the usual other speed side effects.
Originally posted by C@NDYMAN:
^^^
Your right, if you take some ephedrine to get you going. Then take a half dose of GHB and its very euphoric and very speedy :)
its one of my favorites
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