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Are street drugs as strong as they were in the 80s ?

joey2007

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I live in Mumbai and a lof of my friends who are brown sugar addicts from 20 plus years and they say that the stuff today is weak and adulterated, not as strong as in the 80s. Is this true in America and other countries as well ?

I remember reading an interview with Keith Richards s few months ago and he said that street drugs and pharmaceuticals aren't strong these days.
 
Cocaine might have taken a hit in purity but there is some really strong heroin on the streets these days. It really just depends who you know.

When you say brown sugar, are you referring to heroin?
 
in america the quality of heroin has gone way up in the past few decades at least on the east coast, but cocaine quality has declined and is cut to hell majority of the time. but i really don't know what the scene is like in india so your buddies are probably the best resource, besides other posters that may be in your area
 
DivineMomenT said:
When you say brown sugar, are you referring to heroin?

brown sugar is a lot more common in india than heroin - it apparently contains 0.025 percent of heroin.
 
In the UK and I guess most of Europe too Heroin is stronger and cheaper than it has ever been.

I say this because I have seen government surveys about price and test results of street samples. Since the Taliban have gone from power the Afghans have been producing more opium than ever.

The stuff on the street here has been very good for 3-5 years now.

Hopefully the conflict in Afghanistan will continue in the same fashion and the farmers will be free to grow the poppies.

In terms of Cocaine in the UK. The quality has gone down in recent years. The Columbian cartels started to swamp the country but I fear the stuff has now become far to popular.
Everyone is doing it. People than have never even smoked a joint are now doing lines down the pub. The demand has now outstripped supply. So some of the coke is very poor once it reaches the end user.

Thants my answer.
 
Lopex said:
Hopefully the conflict in Afghanistan will continue in the same fashion and the farmers will be free to grow the poppies.
That's so fucked up for you to say man, you're saying that you would prefer men and women to die in battle just so junkies could have better dope? One of the most idiotic statements that I have ever heard in my life. You prefer dope over human life. Seriously you need help, some serious fucking help.
 
wiggi said:
That's so fucked up for you to say man, you're saying that you would prefer men and women to die in battle just so junkies could have better dope? One of the most idiotic statements that I have ever heard in my life. You prefer dope over human life. Seriously you need help, some serious fucking help.


I don't think he meant it in a literal sense, but if he did then yes you're correct. I really don't think anybody wishes harm like that on a massive scale so they can cop better dope.

Anyway to answer your question, or atleast try.

Heroin, has infact in my city (baltimore) gotten MUCH more potent over the past 5 years, one of my friends who quit for awhile recently relapsed, did his usual "starter" dose and well....he OD'd(shitty i know). Also when i dibble dabble in heroin nowadays it feels like I'm way more blasted than when I used to in highschool.

Ecstacy, has for the most part gotten tarnished and unsafe to take. Unless you've tested your pill and know for sure what is in it, epills aren't worth waisting your money on anymore. Don't get me wrong there are still good pills out there, but the probability you get a pure MDMA pill nowadays is next to none, you're more likely to get caffeine and some other more dangerous BS in it etc.

Cocaine, this drug has taken the WORST hit. If you find good coke, treasure the feeling, and learn to let it go, because quite frankly you're not going to find it again any time soon.

Marijuana, well its always been good to me lol.


Like somebody said earlier, this question is almost impossable to answer, but these are my personal experiences in my general location, hope this helped!!

Peace n Love from the 4 1 OHHHHH!! =D
 
wiggi said:
That's so fucked up for you to say man, you're saying that you would prefer men and women to die in battle just so junkies could have better dope? One of the most idiotic statements that I have ever heard in my life. You prefer dope over human life. Seriously you need help, some serious fucking help.


well in a sense the better dope the UK gets from Afghanistan means an afghan isn't going hungry. If buying dope means feeding Afghans then let us all shoot up. The War in Afghanistan sucks but the civilian causalities aren't anywhere near as bad as the War on Iraqi's.

P.S
Don't care about U.S troops
 
I wasn't doing drugs when I was 7 but.. To me from what I hear on here and movies and documenteries its seems like the cocaine and E were a lot better back in the day...

I wish i grew up in the 80's with some fiya coke
 
Im not sure.

Some studies say drugs are more potent, but then others say the opposite.

I tend to agree with the studies that say they are more potent considering there are more studies that say the same than there are that say the opposite.

EDIT - why not care about US troops? They arent the ones who decided to go to war. I just find that offensive since my brother is kind of one of them (he's a drill sgt. so he's not actually fighting, but still.)
 
Yea I think "ecstasy" was a lot stronger in the 80s. My cousin told me back when he was rolling, he would buy one of two types of pills. I think one was blue (MDMA) and the other was red (MDA) and a solid dose too. Now you have pills that are every color of the rainbow, containing anything from tylenol to ketamine. The pills that do have a dose of straight MDMA have much less than pills from the 80s.

I also hear that lsd was a good bit stronger in the 80s. Can anyone confirm that?

Not sure about meth, maybe someone can comment on that.

So this brown sugar stuff is only .025 percent heroin? That's practically nothing, you would need insane amounts to even get high.
 
One thing is when some random guy says drugs were stroner in the 80's, theres a possibility that its his tolerence and the way you get a more intense high your first 20-30 times. Or it could be a little of both.

The goverment reports that say coke and heroin are stroner are prolly true, except when its "diffrent" coke, so its stronger but apprently lower quality somehow, LeJunk has a thread on that with his opinions on it.
 
Baltimore's dope scene reached its peak in the 90s from what I hear, so I think the quality is better now where I live.

I'm pretty sure weed is supposed to be stronger now too.
 
Coke has taken a huge hit, unless you buy in huge quantities, live in Florida, and/or you have a great hookup you are usually buying a bag of cut.

E pills have gone to shit as well from what I've heard.
 
If we're talking heroin, then maybe. It all depends on your source. Overall though, according to our gov't, it is stronger now than it was.
 
Harumscxarum said:
well in a sense the better dope the UK gets from Afghanistan means an afghan isn't going hungry. If buying dope means feeding Afghans then let us all shoot up. The War in Afghanistan sucks but the civilian causalities aren't anywhere near as bad as the War on Iraqi's.

P.S
Don't care about U.S troops
Too bad the actual poppy farmers don't make hardly any money from growing the poppy and it's the drug lords that make the profits. So shooting up is not helping a hungry Afghan family eat, it is just helping a money hungry drug lord become even richer. I don't support either war and I think our troops should be brought back home. Honestly though, how the fuck can you say you don't care about another human being's life? Maybe your opinion would change if you had family or friends over there.
 
same in nyc/nj. coke's purity is way down. thought when i used to do coke a lot, i've came across 2 really really good ballz. when i used to cop heroin in newark(2 years ago), i was never disappointed. sometimes i was amazed about how little i needed to get f'ed up. but i was a beginner on the H train.
 
I dont know in diffrent places i guess street drugs would be diffrents but I am torn because now a days we are so much smarter Drug dealers either make drugs better by cutting with diffrent chemicals or make them shittier by cutting them with shit make E with great purity or acid but choose not to due to cost.....Still im torn
 
wiggi said:
That's so fucked up for you to say man, you're saying that you would prefer men and women to die in battle just so junkies could have better dope? One of the most idiotic statements that I have ever heard in my life. You prefer dope over human life. Seriously you need help, some serious fucking help.


Sorry I came across all wrong. I am an ex soldier in the British army. I have mates now in Helmand. I don't want them to die and for that matter I don't want anyone to die.
What I meant to say was that the current policy of the NATO troops is to let the farmers grow the poppy crops as burning them and leaving the locals with no work would just piss them of and drive them into the arms of the Taliban.
While they keep to this policy the price of Heroin will remain low and the shit good.

While the people in power keep drugs illegal the use of any illegal drugs means you have the blood of people on your hands. Thats a fact. It may be gangsters on the street or poor farmers or smugglers forced into the life to afford to live.

I don't like it and I wish I could just buy whatever I wanted from the pharmacy and pay tax on it.
 
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