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Are stimulants more dangerous than downers on a whole? excluding tobbaco and alcohol)

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Is it just me and my phobias or do stimulants feel more dangerous than downers like obviously downers are supposed to calm you down and chill right but stimulants make you hyper active and maybe risk of heart attack or something? I am a big stimulant lover but I just wanted other folks take on this.
 
Stimulant addiction is very different from opiate addiction - they are both equally bad just in different ways.

Depending on what measurement you choose to use you can show bad effects from both causes. But measured in the number of death they are responsible for heroin are by far the worst, however cocaine is bad as well. In other words, measured in overdose deaths cocaine (stimulant) are not more dangerous than heroin (downer).

Then you can talk about the subjective description of how hard or bad it is to be addicted to either downers or stimulants and get different stories.

So in closing, both stimulants and downers are dangerous and you should treat them with respect and know your stuff before you ingest anything and even then bad things can happen.
 
I think stimulants are more dangerous, because of mental issues. Its just not healthy for the mind, to skip sleep for longer periods. As most people i met, that were into stims, dont care much about sleep. For the body, i think think its hard to compare. Both classes do have their negative side effects.
 
I would think stimulants are more physically dangerous in their main effect due to the strain on heart, anorexic tendencies and loss of sleep. If you push the doses or mix downers only then would they become more dangerous due to the risk of fatal respiratory depression or if you're someone with an out of control addiction take heed to correct your usage as the inter-dose withdrawals and loss of efficacy will cause you to suffer from over excitation of your mind and body. Glutamate excitation, risk of seizures, exhaustion from the insomnia etc. will due a number on your health every bit as bad as a stim binge, would you agree?
 
Why exclude alcohol? It's one of the most dangerous downers (at least when you become dependant on it, the detox can be lethal.. So quite dangerous).

I guess tobacco is very bad for your health too, but it's not 'acutely dangerous even if you are addicted to smoking. Quitting is hard and will make you go nuts with cravings, but other than that it's not immediately dangerous.

Though I think for your psyche, stimulants are the most dangerous. As in, they can do a real number on your psychological health with excessive use. Downers are more 'dangerous' in the sense that detoxing from quite a few of them (barbs, benzos, alcohol, ..) cold turkey can kill you. But disregarding that (a proper taper is always available normally, even if you have to go to hospital for it), I think stimulants are more dangerous to play around with (at least when used at high doses & chronically). Especially stuff like MDMA, 4-FA, meth and other drugs (empathogens) that release lots of serotonin can be very neurotoxic with excessive use, and then we're talking irreversible damage.
 
You can die from either

I'd say with fentanyl and it's relatives floating around you are putting your self in more risk copping and doing powder heroin/pressed prescription pills while following proper harm reduction, versus copping stimulants an following proper harm reduction.
 
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