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Are IQ tests a TRUE measure of "intelligence?"

What about g? Isn't that suppose to be the highly generalized IQ score?

It is outdated, and I can find just as many sites supporting the correlation between personal success and the test score than I can supporting the opposite.

Also, it is impossible to predict future success through these sort of tests. Such experiments take a lot of time and are flawed because of the massive amount of external forces coming into play into someone's life. If someone scored an IQ of 150, but has been plagued with bad luck(relatives dying, life-changing things), will he be successful or not?
 
Belisarius said:
There's a story (that might be apocryphal) that Albert Einstein once removed the keel from a sailboat because he thought it would make it sail better. It didn't. ;)
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Yeah . . . but the hundredth time . . . he was right. :)
 
L O V E L I F E said:
I am firmly of the opinion that IQ tests are strongly biased against unintelligent people.
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*claps*
Yea, we all know youre a fuckin super awesome comedian.

Care to elaborate on your insightful comment there, or do you just like to hear yourself talk?

:|
 
It really doesnt matter if IQ tests are flawed. Unless you score incredibly low or incredibly high no one pays attention to your IQ ever. In 22 years of life i have never had my IQ effect me in any aspect of my life. Its not like an SAT score where colleges look at it. Its a pointless number that people who score high talk about to feel better than other people(i dont know my IQ im not bitter cause i scored low). So who cares if its flawed at measureing someones exact intelegence level. It does work fairly well though in the extreem cases. It tells u if someone is slow and it tells u if someone is possibly a genius
 
lacey k said:

*claps*

Yea, we all know youre a fuckin super awesome comedian.

Care to elaborate on your insightful comment there, or do you just like to hear yourself talk?

:|
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Why thank you, Lacey. :)

Do you find my comedy to be more "super" or more "awesome?"

Happy Valentine's Day,

LL
 
^^only as awesome as you make it homie.

It really doesnt matter if IQ tests are flawed. Unless you score incredibly low or incredibly high no one pays attention to your IQ ever. In 22 years of life i have never had my IQ effect me in any aspect of my life. Its not like an SAT score where colleges look at it. Its a pointless number that people who score high talk about to feel better than other people(i dont know my IQ im not bitter cause i scored low). So who cares if its flawed at measureing someones exact intelegence level. It does work fairly well though in the extreem cases. It tells u if someone is slow and it tells u if someone is possibly a genius
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some of that makes sense, true
 
Psychology experiments have shown that IQ tests are simply a measure of how well you will do (or have done) in a North American school setting.

That's essentially all it is good for.

That's not to say that people who score high IQ's aren't intelligent.

It's just simply not a measure of one's intelligence.
 
It's all bullshit.

So someone tests well..... big whooooooop.
Drop that same someone in a dessert. 1000 miles from nowhere, and I guarantee he's a dead man(woman, er person)
Drop the same "mentally handicap" that grew up in the dessert, and he/she makes it out just fine.

It's all relative. So a genius grows up in the ghetto. He's still an idiot according to the tests because the opportunity wasn't affordable.
I'm speaking (literally typing) from experience on this one. Will I live longer than most? Probably not. I pride myself on realism. I don't want to live longer. The world isn't that great. Which of us genius' here are going to leave a REAL mark on society/civilization?
I'm a damned good carpenter. I taught Calculus in high school. I have no education past high school. I actually tested out of college, but never had college credit (BA degree). Without funding there is no formal recognition of talent.
The best IQ test I took was an internet test. After an hour of testing (I was younger and wanting to prove my smarts) I noticed patterns. I figured similar questions were being asked for consistancy in answers. I kept going. Some questions provoked thought. I got tired of taking it. When I quit the results were poor. Said something of being an idiot for wasting so much time. I had to laugh.
Another IQ test that really got me laughing, which I didn't take, the tester asked my friend's younger brother: "Say as many words in a minute as you can think of". He started counting. Pure genius..... hundreds of words in sixty seconds.

Education is great, but not the end all be all of success. IQ test measure, in most cases, education...... at least from my seat.
 
^ lol. beat me to it :)

moto_stevo said:
So someone tests well..... big whooooooop.
Drop that same someone in a dessert. 1000 miles from nowhere, and I guarantee he's a dead man(woman, er person)
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so you're saying that intelligence and stamina/resourcefulness/etc. are different things. i can't imagine anybody would disagree with you.

what does that have to do with the iq test being a valid measure of intelligence?

alasdair
 
Well being able to adapt and survive in a harsh and unfamiliar environment is a type of intelligence. I believe that was the point he was making. Unless he meant people with diabetes will not survive long in a large bowl of pudding...
 
I believe he was saying similar to what I had said:

"The term and idea of intelligence encompasses far to much to measure in one test, in my opinion."

Intelligence isn't just how much shit you know and how well you can relate concepts.

It delves into other areas that the IQ test doesn't touch on.

Like someone said earlier, it's a measure of a specialized area of your intelligence.
 
they have diff tests for different cultures - socioeconomic backrounds.

But i think your first err was reading news about psychology from msn in the first place.
 
This aint about what MSN said, what msn said that i didnt agree with was simply somethin that made me want to post this. thats just a borderline related thing, it aint what the point of the thread is.
 
curbe ya impulse to act as tho youve got the nerve to speak on that wich you now nothing about.
 
like i said what the msn reporter may have left out is the fact that there are different iq tests for people in different cultures/socio economic backrounds. I dont think its a general state ov overall intellegence its a point of reference for psychological research, and should be administered by a psychologist and no-one else without risking making the quota invalid.
 
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