RCs are designer drugs really safer than mdma?

[6apbhmm]

I just want to point out, we have to compare damage only when both drugs in comparison are used with the same frequency.

Otherwise we could say that 15 cofees a day are more damaging than a small shot of heroin once per month and conclude that coffee is more dangerous than heroin. One would think this is so obvious, but to many people it really isn't, I've heard countless people say "man, when I was smoking weed I was much worse than now I do mdma/coke". They somehow forget they did 10 doses (blunts) of weed a day, while they do one dose of cocaine per week, obviously then weed will make you dumber than coke.

 

[chrisalt]

Only time will tell. I personally will not touch RCs.

 

[phatass]

i don't know about the APB's, but some designer drugs are likely to be safer than MDMA, but like most people here one can only speculate on the long term effects of designer drugs, there is solid information on the long(er) term effects of MDMA..

 

[MJV]

It really depends I think. If the MDMA is completely 100% clean than no MDMA is a very safe drug as long as you use some sort of degree of moderation (Prof D.Nutt famously once said it was as harmless as paracetamol) + there have been countless other studies.
In reality though you are unlikely to find 100% pure MDMA on the streets, due to its legal status. Its likely to have adulterants. This of course makes it significantly less safe.
At least with RCs you know what your getting I suppose, well depending on how much you trust the vendor. But they havnt been studied or around enough to see if there is any long term effects. So its 6 and 2 3s really.
On balance id still say MDMA is safer though. Especially from a medical point of view should anything go abit wrong.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

At least with RCs you know what your getting I suppose

That's not true, you can easily get sold something that is not what it is supposed to be when buying RCs online. There have been studies where they bought drugs from the most popular RC sites and tested them, and they found a high percentage of them contained various other drugs and cuts, or even none of the drug it was supposed to be.

 

[MJV]

That's not true, you can easily get sold something that is not what it is supposed to be when buying RCs online. There have been studies where they bought drugs from the most popular RC sites and tested them, and they found a high percentage of them contained various other drugs and cuts, or even none of the drug it was supposed to be.

It really depends I think. If the MDMA is completely 100% clean than no MDMA is a very safe drug as long as you use some sort of degree of moderation (Prof D.Nutt famously once said it was as harmless as paracetamol) + there have been countless other studies.
In reality though you are unlikely to find 100% pure MDMA on the streets, due to its legal status. Its likely to have adulterants. This of course makes it significantly less safe.
At least with RCs you know what your getting I suppose, well depending on how much you trust the vendor. But they havnt been studied or around enough to see if there is any long term effects. So its 6 and 2 3s really.
On balance id still say MDMA is safer though. Especially from a medical point of view should anything go abit wrong.

I know dude, that's why I said the bit in bold I suppose its all abit of the same really, depends on either how much you trust your dealer or how much you trust your vendor. I would on balance think that vendors have abit more regulation than your standard run of the mill dealer. Especially the big corporate ones based within the EU. But I may be wrong.