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Misc Are darknet markets worth it?

The thing is most people you'd describe as a
"Easy marks" aren't going to be using tor or be tech savvy enough to teach themselves proper opsec. It's the people typing into Google "how to buy drugs online" who make up the majority of the low hanging fruit so it only makes sense that the majority of scammers would target people using the clearweb.

90% of people who get scammed trying to shop on the DNMs are people who get caught out by phishing links posing as legitimate markets, and once again these are usually found on the clear web often in places like Reddit by scammers pretending to help out.

As for things like vendors manipulating feedback or misrepresenting products or whatever, I'm sure it's easy to do that regardless of venue. Clearweb/darkweb shouldn't make a difference either way. Bots fake sales etc. You can't even trust Amazon reviews these days.
 
I tried DNM few years ago just to verify if it worked. And after little investigation of how BTC and TOR worked I placed some orders to UK from Spain. 4 or 5 days I have it in the post. Some alprazolam was fake and some other benzos were legit.

Now I know lots of people buy on telegram bit the prices are very high.

How tails work?can anybody explain a bit.
Thanks in advance
 
Shinji Ikari said:
It's a Linux based operating system focussed on security which you install and boot from a usb stick. It routes all your internet traffic through tor and doesn't save anything to the computer.
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Its not possible with windows?
 
Ismene2 said:
Another big difference is on the clearnet wouldnt you own the website you sell from? So you just delete any reviews you dont like. I've left a couple of shit reviews on the darknet and you can tell how they react that they consider it a threat to their business.
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Yeah I've always taken any reviews on vendors own sites with a bucket of salt for exactly the reason you stated.

I was referring to third party review sites though, sites like trust pilot, but as I mentioned they have now blocked reviews for these types of businesses. You can sometimes find uncensored reviews on social media groups, but otherwise it is getting almost impossible to find verifiable reviews on the 'open internet'. The most popular corporate big name user generated discussion group tends to be very strictly and tightly moderated in most of it's subsections, and nothing much gets past them (not for very long anyway) with vendor discussion being strictly prohibied on most subsections. There's so much that you can't say or enquire about, that it becomes very frustrating at times.

Those 'scam or not' websites that proliferated in the 2010s don't seem to be around or updated, any more either. Or the ones that are, never have what you're trying to find.

The clearnet internet has very noticeably gone to shit over the last decade, with everything getting extremely cleaned up and sanitised. Also most of the smaller independent websites and forums have either died or are on the way out. It's much harder to find what you're looking for in general, with Google especially usually offering very little other than loads of sponsored advertisements. Image search is complete garbage these days, very few returns or enties are found, and most of them just take you to Pinterest or Instagram. It's another good reason to never use it, on top of all the privacy concerns.

I hope things will turn a corner soon, with rising competitors emerging to save the day, otherwise thinsg will go from bad to worse.

I'm getting the impression you're pretty clued up about the DNMs and darkweb in general. I've not spent a lot of time on there, and still havent figured out to how to use the search engines on there yet, or is it meant to be so difficult to find anything on there? (I mean, I know how to search, but the majority of the results are all dead links all the time!?)

Are there any 'scam or not' type websites, or useful member discussion forums on there that you know of?
 
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I would say it would be extremely valuable to someone who might be like me if I had been looking for some crystal for a long time and got so desperate that I started offering people that looked like they might be able to get it 300 bucks for 100 bucks worth, ultimately being wrong and not getting it. So I hypothetically end up downloading some secure dark net browser which proved useless because I still don’t know wtf I’m doing so I end up shitting my hypothetical woe all over a harm reduction forum because I have no idea why I can’t trade nice crisp money for what I want in this stupid state I moved too. If I was him it would be the most useful thing ever and I’d be forever grateful for it.
 
stuckinokc said:
I would say it would be extremely valuable to someone who might be like me if I had been looking for some crystal for a long time and got so desperate that I started offering people that looked like they might be able to get it 300 bucks for 100 bucks worth, ultimately being wrong and not getting it. So I hypothetically end up downloading some secure dark net browser which proved useless because I still don’t know wtf I’m doing so I end up shitting my hypothetical woe all over a harm reduction forum because I have no idea why I can’t trade nice crisp money for what I want in this stupid state I moved too. If I was him it would be the most useful thing ever and I’d be forever grateful for it.
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Good luck with all that, but remember that this is a harm reduction forum for people who already have drugs in hand and that asking for help with sourcing (however indirectly) is strictly against the rules.

Welcome to Bluelight!
 
Bleaney said:
Are there any 'scam or not' type websites, or useful member discussion forums on there that you know of
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There's a forum modelled after Reddit which I won't name, a link aggregator which I won't name and a search engine for finding market listings and reviews which I won't name, all of which are managed by the same entity.

Combined they do a pretty good job of keeping vendors somewhat accountable but as they're all managed by a single entity this creates a single point of failure, and indeed there have been months at a time where these services have been completely unavailable due to ongoing DDOS attacks or whatever else.

Outside of that, smaller forums and link aggregators come and go and markets often have their own forums.
 
There's only two things you need to know to get going on the darknet.

1. Tor browser
2. -snip- *mod edit naughty link removed

Then you need to figure out how to buy crypto and you're done.
 
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Ismene2 said:
There's only two things you need to know to get going on the darknet.

1. Tor browser
2. -snip- *mod edit naughty link removed

Then you need to figure out how to buy crypto and you're done.
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DF seems to have been abandoned by it's maintainer, canary hasn't been updated for months. The other two popular link aggregators are still valid.

I'd also add that learning how to use PGP is pretty much essential these days. Most markets require it and the ones that don't should probably be avoided unless you want your address to wind up in a database.
 
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Shinji Ikari said:
It's possible.
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Windows mostly sucks, make dual boot up and install Linux next to your windows.
If your harware can handle that, best of both worlds. Or when short in money, need for a stabie safe OS and accepting the work you have to do when choosing using only Linux. Nothing most of the times works without putting in some effort.

Meaning lots of DIY, failed attempts, endurance/ willigness to endure and lots of searching.
To get things working, that on Apple or Windows just run.
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Windows mostly sucks, make dual boot up and install Linux next to your windows.
If your harware can handle that, best ofboth worlds. Or when talking money, stability, safety and acceptance of the limitations of Linux.

Meaning lots of DIY, failed attempts, endurance/ willigness to endure and lots of searching.
To get things working, that on Apple or Windows just run.
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I know. They asked if it's possible, which it is, if ill advised. Windows does indeed mostly suck.

I'd advise against dual booting unless you're comfortable encrypting your Linux partition and even then I'd recommend a VM with something like WHONIX over dual booting.

Tails stick is the best way to do it imo. All encrypted, easy to dispose of in a hurry and you don't risk leaving breadcrumbs on your harddrive. Plus it comes with all the software you need pre-installed.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
Good luck with all that, but remember that this is a harm reduction forum for people who already have drugs in hand and that asking for help with sourcing (however indirectly) is strictly against the rules.

Welcome to Bluelight!
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Thanks for letting me know. I tried to not actually ask for help but I can seen how it can be construed as a not subtle enough attempt at getting some. I do think though that it would be nice to see places focus not just only on the harm reduction of doing drugs, but also acquiring them. In a lot of instances we put ourselves at risk more so in the acquisition than the event of actually using them. Thanks for wishing me luck as well although that was all hypothetical anyway, I’m not actively seeking anything.
 
stuckinokc said:
I do think though that it would be nice to see places focus not just only on the harm reduction of doing drugs, but also acquiring them.
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I completely agree, as do the majority of posters moderators and admins here and on other harm-reduction sites, I suspect. Sadly, we are beholden to the law and a website seen to be facilitating access or turning a blind eye to sourcing discussion would be shut down in no time.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
I know. They asked if it's possible, which it is, if ill advised. Windows does indeed mostly suck.

I'd advise against dual booting unless you're comfortable encrypting your Linux partition and even then I'd recommend a VM with something like WHONIX over dual booting.

Tails stick is the best way to do it imo. All encrypted, easy to dispose of in a hurry and you don't risk leaving breadcrumbs on your harddrive. Plus it comes with all the software you need pre-installed.
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But that s when your aim is DW.

As some one thats only been on clearnet. And your knowledge on this way beyond my league.
But encrypting made me think that along that line. VM is Virtual machine I am guessing.
No clue what that actually means, my knowledge ends about at WINE Windows .. .. Emulator.
But WHONIX, good use name btw for anyone about to join bluelight.

Its just Ubuntu, African word, describes it best. Its free, stable and safer.
i used the installation cd-rom to save peoples lost pics of kids, marrages and such.
If their Windows os had given gave up just before backing up anything important.
At first it seemed me performing magic, but after my explanation they could do it themselves.

🤙 Linux
 
Actually never tried a other version. i ll check Manjaro, is there an advantage?

Ubuntu: someone open for others, caring for them and despises when others get humiliated, totrtured or surpressed. Key being humanity.

Immediatly i was sold, and it keeps running. Doubt the latest distribution of windows would run on my machine, most lightly not.
 
Manjaro is a rolling release so it gets major software updates every couple of weeks instead of every six months like Ubuntu. The benefit is an always up to date system with all the latest features, the trade off is having to run large updates more often and you're more likely to encounter bugs.

Edit: btw, did you know that the letters in WINE actually stand for "Wine Is Not an Emulator"? That always tickled me.
 
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