Are any drugs inheritely prone to causing bad trips? Are any less so?

[pseudononamouse]

Given the same set and setting, is it more likely to have a bad trip from certain drugs? From reading here and talking to a couple of friends, it seems that people are particularly prone to having bad trips on psilocybin mushrooms. From personal experience as well as its reputation, salvia (at least when smoked and the user is catapulted into another reality before even finishing exhaling) is especially good at facilitating bad trips. I would think that people are less prone to have bad trips on entactogens, although I have heard of someone getting PTSD after an AMT trip with a very bad setting (someone freaking out, pressuring others to do drugs, and being violent with other people).
I ask primarily because I want to know which psychedelic would be the best for someone's first trip who sometimes has issues with anxiety. I am thinking that 35mg AMT would be good.

 

[Tune in_Drop out]

regarding the first trip for a friend of yours you need to consider what they're looking for from the trip-

if they are looking for pretty colors and cool visuals without much altered thinking and possibly thinking about things they dont want to 2ci is a good first trip.

Lsd was the first psychedelic I tried and it was perfect for me- wonderful body buzz- couldn't stop laughing and spent much of the trip Exploring my house like I'd never seen it before!

I'm not much of a downers fan so the physical effects of mushrooms (I've always found some heaviness) were uncomfortable the first time I tried them. I've grown to like them but I'm not sure as a first trip--- the advantage of mushies is that with a low does (half 1/8th) the effects are only about 4 or 5 hours

I would avoid DOx chemicals as the length seems a bit much for a first trip..

good luck!!

 

[PepperSocks]

it seems that people are particularly prone to having bad trips on psilocybin mushrooms.

This is my experience. I would like to call them difficult trips though.

Mushrooms were my first psychedelic and it was a very traumatic trip but also a very revealing trip.

Having mushrooms as a first trip wasn't bad per se. It was just a rough introduction.

I think LSD would make a good first time psychedelic. It's very open and has a little positive push to it. It's very clear and easy to navigate, very easy to surrender to the LSD state; mushrooms not so much.

 

[B9]

5meoDMT can be challenging as can high dose DOxx - as can anything with less than ideal set & setting.

LSD, 2CB,2CD are commonly quite easy going - this does not stand as any kind of guarantee tho.

 

[jamesmartin]

Shrooms gave me a amazing trip . But I find with shrooms everything has to be perfect which is quite hard to do . Then all of a sudden during my perfect trip my mom sends me a text , I get paranoid as fuck and almost feel like I'm dying . Noo idea why .

So yeah the rest of the shroom trip actually felt like MDMA but with visuals, and it was pretty sick ,

 

[Coolio]

IMO, LSD and 5-MeO-DIPT are highly anxiogenic compared to most psychedelics. I've had some difficult experiences on mushrooms, but nothing like the 8+ hour psychotic breaks that LSD and 5-MeO-DIPT almost consistently produce.

 

[psilocybonaut]

IMO, LSD and 5-MeO-DIPT are highly anxiogenic compared to most psychedelics. I've had some difficult experiences on mushrooms, but nothing like the 8+ hour psychotic breaks that LSD and 5-MeO-DIPT almost consistently produce.

I don't really think that I could have a bad trip from 5-MeO-DiPT...that shit was so worthless and weak in my opinion... I've never taken a WHOLE lot, but I have IV'ed 15mg before and it was disappointing. The compound was wholly disappointing, in my opinion. Even though I got a full gram for $60, I felt like I wasted my money.

LSD, I agree has stimulating effects, but I think it is a great first trip drug. Also 2C-I/2C-B/2C-D, and possibly (lowish dose) 4-AcO-DMT.

5-MeO-DMT & Salvia Divinorum are DEFINITELY two compounds that you do not ever want to take for a first trip...

 

[boK]

From personal experience as well as its reputation, salvia (at least when smoked and the user is catapulted into another reality before even finishing exhaling) is especially good at facilitating bad trips.

I find that salvia is too short lasted to have any withstanding memories on your life. It comes on so quick; and leaves likewise.

Mushrooms are a different story, they do have a history of bad trips.

 

[PetSMiLE]

Mushrooms give me crazy anxiety too often... and I find them to be prone to a 'dark' trip more often than LSD/2c-e (my preferred psychedelics).

It seems many share this sentiment. Everyone is different, though.

 

[TheAzo]

2C-I i think would be my reccomendation, that or LSD (as it's THE standard psychedelic against which everything else is compared). Perhaps 1/2 or 3/4ths of a hit of acid? 2C-I has advantage of being short, though make sure they're aware that the comeup is super-long.

 

[Roose]

I feel like shrooms are a bit less controllable then other psychedelics and for the inexperienced its easy to get lost in thought/create an unpleasant trip

 

[Golfingpsychonaut2]

Salvia Divinorum!!! almost always guaranteed to cause a feeling of terror and unknown not a good time at all! If you want a positive salvia type experience go with DMT. Not the same trip at all but similar as far as intensity and duration but if you want the more pleasant and rewarding experience do DMT not Salvia

 

[theotherside]

Of course salvia fits the profile. I would put jwh-018 in the list even though it's not technically a "trip". It can cause massive paranoia and an all around terrible time if overdosed on. I would also say that 5-meo-dmt is kind of known to cause difficult trips, at least the two times I tried it.

 

[egor]

2c-t-4, 5-meo-amt and JWH-018 all give me consistently bad trips. Needless to say I wont be touching any of them again.

 

[blode]

Lsd is good for your first trip. Just take one or two hits and you won't be too mind fucked to not know what's going on.

 

[Pegasus]

Anxiety at least seems to go away shortly after the come up when I experience it. Just about every time I have anxiety going into a trip it gets worked out right around the time I start peaking.

The knowledge that I have a tranquilizer like a benzo on hand is helpful if I am particularly worried about having an anxiety-ridden beginning to the trip, or if I am planning on smoking weed at any point. I very rarely have actually taken the benzo, I must add. (well, maybe with DOx...)

 

[Wise420]

If you take LSD dont smoke on it, ive had mates just lose it in there minds after having a session and they say they dont feel anythin positive, and that there def in a bad trip.

Smokin seems to clog up your mind, with the LSD still beaming hard makes it all cloudy and very confusing.

But overall, this is my prefered choice of having a trip

Double dump 2 hits of good cid, wait till im peaking hard then smoke a f ew bongs and it sets the trip off hard.Visuals are fuckin nutss

 

[any major dude]

2c-x's tend to be pretty easy on the mind compared to other psychedelics. However I've still seen a couple people freak out on them. One has to be careful with things like LSD & shrooms, as its more or less impossible to know the actual dosage of the chemical(s) you're getting. Definitely wouldn't recommend a DOx for a 1st trip, I don't think they cause bad trips with any greater frequency than their 2c-x cousins, but I could see how the length could be disconcerting to a beginner.

 

[Pans-Advocate]

For a first trip I'd recommend 1 hit of acid or 1.5-2 grams of mushrooms. I wouldn't recommend any research chemicals for a first trip (except maybe a low dose of 4-AcO-DMT), primarily because they don't have a extensive enough history of human use for a first-time tripper to feel as if what they're doing has any relevance to history or the collective human experience.

I think it's important for a first-time tripper to have thoughts like "this is what all those musicians in the 60's were doing" or "people have been doing this religiously for centuries," in roder to give their experiences meaning and connect them to a community of people throughout history. Anything that you need to use a chemical name in order to describe with familiarity doesn't fit this bill.

 

[tm1210]

LSD for a first time trip for me, its the classic psychedelic. I definitly wouldn't recommend mushrooms for a first time trip. I had one of the worst nights of my life on them and I had been taking LSD for years. LSD is a lovely drug IMO, I used to do it every other week when I was younger before I found stims and had some brilliant nights. I'd say 2C's might be worth a go but I hear they can be quite stimulating which might not go down to well if you have issues with anxiety.