Out of all the drugs out there, synthetic and natural, all the synthetic drugs seem to be based on natural ones. Amphetamines are related to epedra. LSD is related to LSA. There are natural uppers/downers. But out of all the drugs out there, is there a natural dissociative out there? I know DXM is related to the opiate family. does that count at all? I know some drugs like alcohol might have a dissociatve feel to it. Are the group of dissociative drugs really a group of drugs at all?
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are all drugs found in nature?
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Beeebs
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If it isn't found in nature where would it come from? Everything is "natural" its just a matter of isolation and combination.
stardreamer
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I think he means is there a chemical readily found in nature that produces a disassociative type experience. Like as in the effects of amphetamine and ephedrine are in the same category, one synthetic and one natural, I think he wants to know if there is a natural chemical that can be categorized with dxm, ketamine, etc. I really have no clue.
One might argue that certain deleriants can almost be compared, but really there is so little similarity that it probably isn't reasonable at all to do so.
One might argue that certain deleriants can almost be compared, but really there is so little similarity that it probably isn't reasonable at all to do so.
Well , when it gets down to it , all drugs did come from nature , it had to start somewhere. Now they can syntheticly create drugs but it all started from one plant or bark or natural occuring chemical in a living thing , so nature is how it got started.
What am I saying . God made everything. Any though of this so called "science" is blasphemy and is devil talk.
What am I saying . God made everything. Any though of this so called "science" is blasphemy and is devil talk.
stardreamer
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^^^
Hehe. I know how you feel.
I'm curious now, too. Are there any disassociatives that are readily found in nature?
Hehe. I know how you feel.
I'm curious now, too. Are there any disassociatives that are readily found in nature?
Thai-Fighter
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Originally posted by *KANE*:
God made everything. Any though of this so called "science" is blasphemy and is devil talk.
It's true god gave us drugs!
When you put it like that everything can be traced back to nature. It's where everything decends from. The question for your answer is yes like you stated above. But if your looking for a more philosophical answer let me know. I think I have a few brain cells left to conger up an intelligent response...
stardreamer
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Ok I've got a question, even though I think I said it a few times.
Is there a disassociative readily found in nature?
Is there a disassociative readily found in nature?
angel_girl8
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saliva? or is it a psychadelic?
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fairnymph
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1) Yes, dissociatives most certainly do deserve their own category.
2)Nitrous oxide (N2O) is released naturally by oceans and bacteria in soil. And sewage releases it also, if I remember correctly (so you can all go huff your shit now to get high). So yes, there is a naturally occurring dissociative.
And from a recent email to my obnoxious mother:
"Why are so -called 'natural' (plant-derived) drugs any better than pharmaceutical drugs? Food is a drug, alcohol is a drug, prozac ia a drug. Any lines that you are drawing are arbitrary. Do you think your body cares whether a drug is 'natural' or synthetic? Absolutely not. To your body, a drug is a drug, regardless of its origin.
Furthermore, the view that 'natural drugs are safe, better, blahblahblah..' is extremely myopic. I can think of hundreds of naturally occuring compounds that are harmful and even deadly. Even plant-derived hallucinogens are far more potent than synthetic ones.
If anything, synthetic medicines are superior, or at least they are becoming more so with time. See, at this point, we know enough about synthetic chemisty and psychoneuropharmacology to be able to design drugs which selectively (and thus with few side effects) correct a problem."
[ 30 July 2002: Message edited by: fairnymph ]
2)Nitrous oxide (N2O) is released naturally by oceans and bacteria in soil. And sewage releases it also, if I remember correctly (so you can all go huff your shit now to get high). So yes, there is a naturally occurring dissociative.
And from a recent email to my obnoxious mother:
"Why are so -called 'natural' (plant-derived) drugs any better than pharmaceutical drugs? Food is a drug, alcohol is a drug, prozac ia a drug. Any lines that you are drawing are arbitrary. Do you think your body cares whether a drug is 'natural' or synthetic? Absolutely not. To your body, a drug is a drug, regardless of its origin.
Furthermore, the view that 'natural drugs are safe, better, blahblahblah..' is extremely myopic. I can think of hundreds of naturally occuring compounds that are harmful and even deadly. Even plant-derived hallucinogens are far more potent than synthetic ones.
If anything, synthetic medicines are superior, or at least they are becoming more so with time. See, at this point, we know enough about synthetic chemisty and psychoneuropharmacology to be able to design drugs which selectively (and thus with few side effects) correct a problem."
[ 30 July 2002: Message edited by: fairnymph ]