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anything simialar to 5htp...except for dopamine? (supplements to raise dopamine?)

Jabberwocky

Jabberwocky

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anything i can buy? i take speed once in a while and just want something to help get the dopamine back up. whether it'll help the comdown, or just help the next couple days after the speed.



thanks
 
l-tyrosine i think.. im not entirely sure though

edit: oh and l-dopa too.. i think.
 
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and perhaps the same way people take prozac to ease an mdma crash, maybe welbutrin could be used to ease a speed crash.. ??

but i dont know if thats safe.. im just throwing ideas out there lol.
 
yea well thats what i mean.. when people are coming down from mdma sometimes they take prozac to make the crash less hard because mdma depletes your serotonin. welbutrin basically works the same way but on your dopamine receptors, i believe.. so maybe you could take that as youre coming down from speed to prevent dopamine depletion. thats just pure speculation though.
 
.Lucid. said:
yea well thats what i mean.. when people are coming down from mdma sometimes they take prozac to make the crash less hard because mdma depletes your serotonin. welbutrin basically works the same way but on your dopamine receptors, i believe.. so maybe you could take that as youre coming down from speed to prevent dopamine depletion. thats just pure speculation though.
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i meant i thought it was bad to use ssri's around the time you use mdma
 
yea you shouldnt take it beforehand because you can get serotonin syndrome.. but some people take it as theyre coming down, right before they crash.
 
worst ideas ever.

Take some Xannie's or Valium, get yourself some Tyrosine or just go all out and buy a protein shake, that has all the essential amino acid's you need and is great after having amphetamines.
 
i know for a fact it works with mdma and prozac, actually its been shown to reduce neurotoxicity as well.. and welbutrin supposedly works the same way with cocaine crashes. so i dont see why it wouldnt work.. but yea i said it was just speculation.

and why is that information useless? no one even responded to this thread so i was just trying to give him some information to go on, i never said i was a doctor.
 
but isnt there? the exact reason it works for coke would be why it would work for amphetamines.. because of dopamine depletion, which is really what this post is about.

but ok.. nevermind. im sure that protein shake will help him with his horrible meth crash. lol. 8)
 
Prozac is a drug that takes days, even weeks before it has suitable levels of serotonin to have any changes. So if your coming down from rolling and take a Prozac and think you feel relief, its just in your head. SSRI's are less of a problem with MDMA as compared to MAOI's when comes to Serotonin Syndrome. I believe in taking the right tool for the job. Xanax is the best way to end a night on MDMA or tripping for that matter. 5-htp doesn't cross the BBB so I'm still not sure why people take it. As for the Wellbutrin, this doesn't sound like a smart thing to do, but I don't think it will kill you, if that makes you feel better.
 
Yes i understand what your saying but coke is a serotonin-norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor, where as amphetamines increase levels of dopamine and norepinephrine in the brain.
 
Lucid Dream said:
Prozac is a drug that takes days, even weeks before it has suitable levels of serotonin to have any changes. So if your coming down from rolling and take a Prozac and think you feel relief, its just in your head. SSRI's are less of a problem with MDMA as compared to MAOI's when comes to Serotonin Syndrome. I believe in taking the right tool for the job. Xanax is the best way to end a night on MDMA or tripping for that matter. 5-htp doesn't cross the BBB so I'm still not sure why people take it. As for the Wellbutrin, this doesn't sound like a smart thing to do, but I don't think it will kill you, if that makes you feel better.
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ah you again. lol
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=198312


and 5htp does not need to cross the bbb because its converted into serotonin first.
 
L-Tyrosine is great for dopamine and norepinephrine and 5htp works well for serotonin. when taken during the comedown or over the course of a few days after it can help. however It does not produce any physical mood lifts. it will only help restore the chemicals in your brain without u feelin it.
 
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