RCs Anyone try MD-PIHP yet?

[TealDreamer]

I am wondering if any has tried Md-Pihp yet. Is it as good as A-Pihp? What dose and roa?

 

[snmfmy]

I found a trip report and I messaged the author to find out if I give him the attribution and copy it verbatim if I can post it here.

I am waiting for a response

 

[snmfmy]

This is a post of a reddit post posted here with permission of the author: Purple_Spacey

"Sure, just link my post at the end of the post you create. Also would love to see the post myself. I don’t often use Bluelight but do find myself there from time to time. A link would be appreciated"

His post is linked at the bottom of this report.

MDPiHP research report, part 2. Dosage and duration (intranasal).

Since my last report, I've been interested in further researching MDPiHP. This time however I will be doing multiple doses and observe the strength and duration of the effects experienced. I won't go into a very detailed effects summary, but I will mention anything worth mentioning in relation to dosage.

Previously my dosage was 28mg intranasally, after which I did not continue dosing. The effects seemed present at a good level for 3 - 5 hours.

Keep in mind tolerance might affect these results. One should not assume my dosages as safe and should not use my experience as an accurate guide.

Always do your own research where possible before experimenting with something.

All dosages below are intranasal.

**T+00:00 | ⁓2.5mg**

Intensity: *Extremely mild, yet noticeable.*

Most noticeable are increased focus and motivation. Euphoria is present, but minimally.

**T+01:00 | ⁓5mg**

Intensity: *Still very mild, yet slightly more noticeable.*

**T+02:00 | ⁓7.5mg**

Intensity: *Still very mild, decided to up the dose.*

**T+02:15** **| 10mg (⁓17.5mg)**

Intensity: *Mild - Moderate.*

Most noticeable are increased focus and motivation, stimulation, euphoria and music enhancement. Heart rate is around 96-100BPM.

So far the onset seems to be within a minute. The come up seems to vary between 5 - 10 minutes. Effects seemed to decrease roughly 30-60 minutes later.

**T+03:15 | 25mg**

Intensity: *Moderate.*

Most noticeable effects are euphoria, stimulation, music enhancement, nystagmus, bruxism and increased perspiration. Heart rate is around 120BPM.

Effects decreased roughly 1.5 hours later.

**T+04:45 | 35mg**

Intensity: *Moderate - High.*

Notable changes in effects/intensity: Vasoconstriction, perspiration, bruxism, restlessness and dehydration increase. Focus decreases. Stimulation becomes a more sedating stimulation. Slight peripheral visual distortions occur. Heart rate is around 106BPM.

**T+06:00 | 40mg**

Intensity: *High.*

This dose was my last dose. Even though I don't think this is the upper limit, this is where my comfort decreases. Effects started to decrease after around 1.5 hours. It seems like the effects decreased for another 2 hours or so.

Keep in mind everyone is different and the experience someone else has could differ a lot from others. From my experience I estimate the dose range and duration for intranasal to be:

**Estimated range:**

* Mild dose: *5-15mg.*

* Moderate dose: *15-35mg.*

* High dose: *35-40mg+.*

**Estimated duration:**

* Onset: *Within minutes.*

* Come up: *5-15 minutes.*

* Peak: *1-2 hours.*

* Offset: *2-3 hours.*

Lower doses seem to be more functional. Higher doses felt more entactogenic and produced a comfortable euphoria with a more sedating stimulation.

Even though more research is needed, I find this substance to be enjoyable and believe it has a lot to offer.

\-Spαcey

*Written on 26 January 2024*

https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/s/20pj8TzgO9

 

[bluecollartweeker]

I have 5g MD-PihP and 5g aD2PV arriving sometime before may, possibly another 10g MD-PihP (cant decide between 10g aPCyP, 5g Cyputylone + 5g 3f-Pihp)
Ill report on the effects oral nasal freebase vaped and rectal, I desperately want to try IV but my girlfriends would be too disappointed in me and probably put me in rehab ever since my last needle bender that permanently damaged me and put my life in real danger. ill update accordingly.

 

[southwestlabs]

I am wondering if any has tried Md-Pihp yet. Is it as good as A-Pihp? What dose and roa?

I've done about 50grams of md-phip, I'll tell you all your mind will want to know. For 1 it's (so far) the mildly closest thing to aphip, but that's like comparing coke to meth, so as far as what ive researched, 3f-phip is kind of crap it's something to do but offers very little and burns quicker and taste worst without all the good stuff, I'd say 3f-phip is about 20% what aphip was, AD2PV.... Straight Dog shit, offers a 1-3minute buz and it's probably one of the worst things I'd ever wasted money on, and I once was sold dirt instead of shoots long ago, and I felt better about that then I did AD2PV, The effort was there, but the trashcan is where it belongs. MD-Phip well now it's never going to
TO be A-PHIP BUT (big Butt) it's somewhat enjoyable, offers some euphoria, some horniness, more on the stim/wired side, so it can be nice to wake up with, it doesn't taste like the worst thing in the world, it's kind of like mild in that regard. Can you redose, and binge it, ohhh yeah! Does it have any huge xome down or keep you up for days, nah. You can smoke it all day stop for 3hours and easily crash out, imo not a bad thing. Since I'm sick of staying awake for 3-4days Straight on other crap, so to me it's nice to know im not going to smoke some and be awake all day and night for days. Now you can ride a day or 2 awake but you going to be burning though it quick, probably about 4grams using all day and night not stopping. So it's O K, like yeah I'd like some more, but meh I'm kind of shopping around for something to fill my aphip void, I'd give it a 70% out of 100% that's being generous by the way, again it's not bad, it's OK. You won't feel like you bought nothing., But it only kind of makes you miss the pips more then anything, poor A-PHIP may it RIP. Moment of silence for our beloved Pips. , all I know is some chemist needs to try harder damn it! One of em can figure out how to maybe make something closer to it..But in my search for it, I'm still searching.

 

[bluecollartweeker]

I've done about 50grams of md-phip, I'll tell you all your mind will want to know. For 1 it's (so far) the mildly closest thing to aphip, but that's like comparing coke to meth, so as far as what ive researched, 3f-phip is kind of crap it's something to do but offers very little and burns quicker and taste worst without all the good stuff, I'd say 3f-phip is about 20% what aphip was, AD2PV.... Straight Dog shit, offers a 1-3minute buz and it's probably one of the worst things I'd ever wasted money on, and I once was sold dirt instead of shoots long ago, and I felt better about that then I did AD2PV, The effort was there, but the trashcan is where it belongs. MD-Phip well now it's never going to
TO be A-PHIP BUT (big Butt) it's somewhat enjoyable, offers some euphoria, some horniness, more on the stim/wired side, so it can be nice to wake up with, it doesn't taste like the worst thing in the world, it's kind of like mild in that regard. Can you redose, and binge it, ohhh yeah! Does it have any huge xome down or keep you up for days, nah. You can smoke it all day stop for 3hours and easily crash out, imo not a bad thing. Since I'm sick of staying awake for 3-4days Straight on other crap, so to me it's nice to know im not going to smoke some and be awake all day and night for days. Now you can ride a day or 2 awake but you going to be burning though it quick, probably about 4grams using all day and night not stopping. So it's O K, like yeah I'd like some more, but meh I'm kind of shopping around for something to fill my aphip void, I'd give it a 70% out of 100% that's being generous by the way, again it's not bad, it's OK. You won't feel like you bought nothing., But it only kind of makes you miss the pips more then anything, poor A-PHIP may it RIP. Moment of silence for our beloved Pips. , all I know is some chemist needs to try harder damn it! One of em can figure out how to maybe make something closer to it..But in my search for it, I'm still searching.

Thanks for the in depth response! Im a bit worried ive wasted my moolah on the aD2pV but maybe it could combine well, or be used as a test substance for the chemical attributes (recrystallization' solubility, reagent colouring etc) so im not gonna let it get tossed asside. I personally enjoyed enough to rank it 2 places below 3f-aPIHP if i inject or boof, and a wee bit lower freeebased amd smoked out of oilburner.
Ill review the MD-PiHP when its in my filtjy mits and at the whim of my debauchery.
Ill most likely try MD prolinatane next AS LONG AS MY PAYCHECK ALLOWS
and despite the mixed/poor reviews ill review Cyputylone as well (freebased, hcl snorted, hcl boofd) mayyyyyyyyybeeeeeeeeee IV


Thanks blueblight

 

[southwestlabs]

Why thank you my man, but leme stop you from making the mistake I did buying cyputolone, it was meant to be a replacement for eult which I tried ordering once upon a time except the feds had different plans for that package, and they weren't shy about telling me "I couldn't have it" and then followed a mildly long speech about bath salts which I said "Oh shit, yeah no I don't want that" and never ordered from that source again I didn't even bother asking for a reship, since the alphabet gang had already told me No once, I think that was about as many slaps on the hand as I was gonna get on that subject material, needless to say cyputulone sucked fairly hard, unless you like redosing every 5minutes for a half-assed buzz, literally not figuratively speaking. Now as for your words on turning AD2PV into something tangible that peaked my interest, Since I've spent kind of a good many years self learning chemistry and what not, and if you've got skills like that we'll then I'd suggest you shift your interest into precursors, glassware, filters, funnels, round bottom flask, condensing rods, pipettes, regrents and go rummaging through Google scholarly or recipes with how-to's and fuck the BS, learn to go ghost while maintaining an average Joe boring ass life even a soccer mom would find dull as a rock and get that ass to cooking some cool shit so we can all be like "Fuck Yeah, Someone's Doing That Thing we all wish we had the nuts, skill and time to do" but even then, your ass better be quick as shit to make it, yeet it into the void of the web and Las Vegas Never speak of that one cool time you hit it big at the casinos and nothing else, maybe a sexy hooker, or Ferrari ride or 2 but nothing too exciting don't want the wrong people getting wet over your endeavors. Once them Boys look at you 1 time, you kind of realize they can or could be watching you anywhere and everywhere, but if your not doing anything illegal we'll you've got nothing to worry about. Lmao. You just sort of either get usto the idea that maybe they are, maybe your going crazy, or maybe they're not? All depends on what your doing. If your not pulling some Break Bad Great Everything should be fine, and I can assure you your not important enough for them or any other woggie boogies to give 2 shits about you. If there's anything I know it's Tech, hiding in plain sight, and what not to do to piss off anyone who can or will actually fuck your world up. The rest well that's all subjective to how many fucks you give about others opinions of you, Many know who I am, I know they do, because for 1, I'm not a fucking idiot Like they like to think! And at most I just don't shut the fuck up, and rant alot which they constantly remind me of my bad spelling and telltale signs that I'm who they think I am, or are, or were. Which sucks because trust me I would Love to go back to learning chemistry, omg yes please!!!! Sadly I think 1 warning was enough for me to take a hint not to continue practicing chemistry and I was getting so good at it too, not no pro, or anything but I'll be damned if I wasn't about to bring some neat stuff to the table. But again that is all subjective and I could just be talking out my ass? No way I'd be hiding anything in my long drawn out ramblings. Right?

 

[JB888]

So I got some from my homegirl (she always got the best RC's she got like 8 yrs of federal probation left so she needs the RC's lol) the other night and i like it its not as strong as like the MDPV, A-PVP, A-PHP. Lot like A-PHiP which isnt suprising..

Yeah I like to do snort betweeen 20mg and 30mg per dose. Not too bad of comedown as other cathinone's.

Yeah i like the direction the PVs are heading. A-PHiP was niiice and now this one..

 

[bluecollartweeker]

to update, I actually only received the ad2pv, my cyputylone and md-pihp were stopped by customs bastards, hoping my incoming md-prolintane still passes. The a-d2PV was surprisingly pleasant rectally and IV (sorry gf I've been jabbing again) I went through 10g quick and never became psychotic only paranoid, the high as about level with methylphenidate at prerational doses, a lot milder than a-PCyP for me, similar to 3f-PiHP as well. Vaping out of an oil burner is a mistake though, moorish as shit but reeks like jizz and the smell sticks to everything. I at least enjoyed it IR and IV in saline sol. lots of bad reviews but I for one enjoyed it.

 

[Qihkal]

I have found mdpihp quite horrendous to IV. It will ruin every vein pretty quickly, even when diluted to the full 100units!!! I had a night where I never really crossed over 5-7mg IV(liquid solution). Since I've still got it, I'm trying to vape it in a bubble and it does not melt, just vapes or burns at really high temps compared to other crystals in a bubble. IDK how I'd survive if it wasn't for agamatine(vasodilation/lightens stims) and benzos.... and food!!! Wildly unimpressive considering I've had zero Tongkat Ali or Yerba Mate today, but I did my first snorted dose.
the low doses are relaxing, with the crash being anxiety inducing.
My first pyro since apvp 12 years ago, not sure I enjoy it. It's like it's just too stimulating as far as vasoconstriction.... Then I have to wonder if hot showers make sense while high, as it raises body temp, but you quickly loose that shower heat sober and it's why many like hot showers before bed.
Was really hoping for stimfap effects without too much vasoconstriction. Maybe I'm smoking it wrong.
DO NOT IV THIS EVEN AT 5mg/1ml. That's all you need to see the vasoconstriction everywhere. There's medical literature on pyros and health effects... It's 34x the amount of people injecting in femoral vein had extreme issues, with arms and legs being like 20x people who don't IV.
Damn I wanted to experience RC crack again, I remember smoking apvp out of a gravity bong in a weed ash sandwich which was nuts. I melted the rest of the bag on a hot old-school lightbulb to destroy it. Of course the friend who gave it to me wanted it back, but I told him "bro I had to convince you to let me try it for like an hour and you were going to flush it anyways"!!! lmfao.... Now I gotta figure out how to vape this stuff, because nasal burns and destroys your nose, and back in my youngin low-income housing life, I never burned the bowl like other people did. Oh I want to do a shot, but it seems best at 5mg/ml.... With obvious severe vasoconstriction unmatched by all other ROA's at much larger doses.... My vendor seems solid, though! Maybe being awake for 36hrs(but barely dosing for the last 12hrs) has ruined my ability to feel it as strongly as I should.. Or the agamatine I was scared into take for those 5-10mg/20-30unit shots. That vasoconstriction looks horrific and risky. I want to try another 5mg/ml IV... I mean I did a bunch of them last night without realizing that going below 70units of water fucked my feet. Interesting enough it was my feet veins, toes, and knuckles looking the scariest... Yeah I'll bet sniffing some while on ODSMT didn't help, but it wasn't bad for long. Feels kind of ok to "vape" this... just wish I knew how to better. It feels safer vaping than IV/intranasal.

Edit:I'll research how to vape MDPIHP, but I'm trying like OG crystal and it doesn't melt.. so I'm rolling it back and forth, probably burning half or more, and the stem has some mdpihp crystals from hitting it too hard. God damn, I'd smoke meth if I knew I could purify the street poison or synth my own(but then you're stuck with both D and L meth... After this last rip of mdpihp, I feel good. I tried hard to get a good hit. I must be burning half the bowl to finally get euphoria at this level.

Are there risks besides the obvious? I'm telling you, I'll waste half a 70mg bowl over 5mg/ml IV shots any day. My veins destroyed, I used less.... but my poor veins and the vasoconstriction in my feet was worse than my toes. So I'm keeping socks on with a winter comforter to keep them warm as fuck because the rest of me is warm. Man... full moon please protect me from my 2nd pyro ever. The agamatine sulphate is potent as heck for vasoconstriction, anxiety, relaxation(though I felt it left dark circles under my eyes when using for sleep), and lastly WEED AND KRATOM TOLERANCE!!! It 100% reduces tolerance to drugs even apparently adderall,but it's strong/potent so I keep the doses low and it only works on an empty stomach because it's an amino acid's l-arginine metabolite. I've considered 300mg on my yerba mate/tongkat ali days to be relaxing, but 750 to be motivation killing. Also available as a very strong sleep aid + test booster is Cistanche, Nootropics Depot baby.

Edit 1v1.0- I must need to add less to the bubble to get it to smoke right because I'm feeling the euphoria and urge to shit and shower...and even head to bed after a bit of mostly hemp+indica. Yeah I'm feeling it, I'm happy now. WOW I can't believe I "destroyed" my veins. They look like shit and my right arm, barely being poked, can't handle the 5-10mg/20-50units. Same goes for 4f-mph, I enjoyed it at 20mg/100ml.... but it's clearly caustic unlike FXE!!!! Ugh I guess I'll have to stick to IM dissos, no more adding a 40mg fxe IV on top of the first alerts from the IM doses... Can't wait for that FXE restock hopefully by Tuesday next week so I can grab it before saturday.
Ok.... so I clearly figured out how to puff through a 70mg mdpihp bowl since starting this comment. Now I'll examine my feet for the VERY FUCKING QUICK 5mg IV shots... Ugh and I even started my solution at 100mg/ml, then added another ml because I was afraid of starting with 10mg shots after being over stimmed railing my first rail...And now the vape euphoria is wearing off, maybe I just need something else to do like stimfap(ehhhh not my favorite)... IDK what I like to do, I sure do miss 3-MeO-PCP lol

 

[kzoorue]

OK, md-pihp is a cathinone. I've never heard of (or considered vaping or smoking one). Typical routes of adminstration for cathinones include orally or snorting/sniffing. I would never IV (ANYTHING!), and smoking a bath salt? Insanity!