Anyone tell me whats wrong with this cycle..??

This is the young man in the OP contemplating that horrendous cycle of 3g per week....
As you can see he had piss poor genetics, but in the short time he's been training he's entered several powerlifting competitions, and recently entered his first bodybuilding show... From a crap beginning with terrible genetics, he has improved considerably, and showed tremendous determination for a 19yr old...
Tonight he bench pressed 160kgs at 86kgs...

It looks like he could actually be about to change what nature had genetically intended for him, through excellent diet, correct training methodology and dedication... He may also have only got there because of the gear, he may have destroyed his natural testosterone levels, and may need to be on supra-physiological doses for the rest of his life..... Only time will tell..

Its a very inspirational video of a extremely dedicated young man that may have permanently pushed through his genetics limits..

Enjoy..!!!

 
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That is a hell of a change. Makes you think about just what you can do with some hard work. . . I know this forum is about steroids but I think we all need to keep in the back of our minds that Nutrition and hard work are really what's getting the job done the compounds we are taking are just icing the cake.
 
Genetic Freak said:
So far its been about 9 or 10 weeks and his delts are looking pretty full while strength has stagnated from stopping the tren.
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Should his strength be stagnating even though he's still on other stuff?

On an Aussie bodybuilding forum, some kid jumped on the sauce because he couldn't increase his 80kg bench press. I'm not a genetic freak and I seemed to surpass 80kg after a few months of inconsistent training and shitty recovery.
 
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[S]alvatore said:
Should his strength be stagnating even though he's still on other stuff?

On an Aussie bodybuilding forum, some kid jumped on the sauce because he couldn't increase his 80kg bench press. I'm not a genetic freak and I seemed to surpass 80kg after a few months of training.
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He dropped Tren which is a pretty powerful compound... Then ramped Test up to 1g & Boldenone to 1g.... The problem with that is the binding affinity at AR of Test + Boldenone, as I've already explained (Test is greater, Bold will have to compete more).... Ideally he should have lowered Test to say 250mg and Bold at 1g... (which he has done upon my suggestion)... As with any cycle when you take out a major compound like Tren you may notice a difference.. Each compound has specific effects, Bold and Tren are quite different....

As for going on gear to increase an 80kg bench press.... Well that's just laughable.. And not worthy of further comment..!!!
 
When exactly did gear become a substitute for proper nutrition and form? And wtf if you can get up and go lift every day can you just Oh I donno not eat like a jack ass? I just came back from Vegas over New Years and I followed my diet! Bloody hell. I gotta agree there GF every thing has a job, and should be chosen more for a specific goal as opposed to the old shotgun approach; but talking binding affinities and the like goes over a lot of people heads especially the cats that are not bothering to put the leg work of research into their plan, these are the same cats that surprise surprise eat like shit and then take large doses of gear to pump up an 80kg bench. Bloody hell.
 
I benched over 80kgs as a 140lb high school junior... binding affinities are simple: whoever doesn't understand them, go to the neurology and pharmacology forum (old advanced drug discussion).
 
Serotonin101 said:
I benched over 80kgs as a 140lb high school junior... binding affinities are simple: whoever doesn't understand them, go to the neurology and pharmacology forum (old advanced drug discussion).
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Is there anything that specifically mentions binding affinity's of various AAS..? Or are you referring to binding affinity's in general..?
 
I think he is just mentioning generalities, though a list of specific AAS and their binding affinities would be freaking sweet to have.
 
There's more to it than binding affinity to the AR, anadrol's binding affinity is low as shit and it still makes you strong as fuck. Steroids apparently act on more than the AR, because otherwise you can't really explain drugs with low AR binding affinities having strong effects (anadrol, dianabol ,...).
 
right but what I think they were saying is not on how they affect you but rather how those with binding affinities may take more of a precedent when used in concert with AAS with higher binding affinities. Though I do find low binding affinity AAS interesting when their effects are disproportionate to the paper, hell a lot of AAS function radically different in vitro as opposed to in vivo
 
^^a good example is tbol which on paper has a 0 for androgenic rating. We all know that ain't true in practice.
 
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right but what I think they were saying is not on how they affect you but rather how those with binding affinities may take more of a precedent when used in concert with AAS with higher binding affinities. Though I do find low binding affinity AAS interesting when their effects are disproportionate to the paper, hell a lot of AAS function radically different in vitro as opposed to in vivo
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It's a shame that the other ways by which these drugs act haven't been researched.
 
With out a doubt. Some of these compounds have been researched, the research never published or the methodology not that sound. Think of the doping program the Germans ran, we are talking thousands of athletes over a rather long period of time begin doped. The data that that must have generated is directly responsible for most of our understanding of long term usage. The shame of this really lies with the stigma with which society places on AAS use in general, hell I have been called every name in the book by tweekers and fucking smack heads( for the sake of full disclosure I will state that I did have a small opiate issue my self but that's another story) over my AAS usage, never mind their habits but the steroid user is the devil makes no damn sense. Then you have the gross stigma that a few users have give us as just straight out poly-drug abusing idiots, like all of us power drink and roll face every week end on top of the steroids. Shit is infuriating. But there is a small ray of light on the horizon, as the popularity of Hormone replacement gets more popular, the knowledge of what these compounds can do will begin to spread... but I digress, all we can do is hope to educate the people that want the education and try to dispel the stigma one mind at a time.
 
After 15 years of cycling, and training/advising god knows how many hundreds of other guys, I can safely say that the dude is wasting his money. Periodising is the key to using steroids, and that really doesn't need to take a shit ton of drugs, although sometimes you will use a lot more for the contrast. And the most powerful tool of all is dieting, and by that I mean cutting. Cutting back hard, then bulking, and repeat, causes the best and most consistent gains. Which is why guys who compete often seem to move faster, since the demands of regular competition create a lot of this cut-bulk dynamic.
 
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