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Anyone seen methamphetamine in the UK/Europe?

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MDMAhead said:
Why the fuck do you want to do crystal meth? Do you want to stay awake for days on end, and gurn more than you've ever gurned in your life?
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What are you all about? Why do you do mushrooms?

I love speed and meth is ment to be more rushy and EUPHORIC, which is why i do drugs. I intend bombing it.

I don't intend caining through it for weeks. Probably be a once off as it's not easy to get, gram between 4 of us then some booze, blues and weed for comedown.

Is that ok with you?
 
captain codshit said:
Why do you do mushrooms?
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I've only done mushrooms 6 times in my life. I do them because I love the visuals they give me. And they don't give you permanent brain damage (unlike crystal meth).

But it's your body, I guess. Feel free to take as much meth as you want :\
 
Man get a grip. Seriously you come on here spouting loads of bullshit speculation and moronic propeganda views.

You love visuals. Woot. The only psych I'm really bothered with is 2c-b. I preffer stims most times. Not even that bothered with MDMA lately. Meth is about the most rushy and euphoric sounding stim, which is why along with 4-Mar it's top of the to do list.

Let me guess though, everyone who tried or uses heroin, crack or meth is a junkie? 8)

Don't bother trying to come all sanctimonious with me. Your arguments are all based on pure ignorance and speculation. Nobody cares. Come back when you actually know what your talking about, toolbag :)
 
No I'm using it to get sleep....... 8)

Is it that hard to understand different people enjoy different things?

I've been caining MDMA for 5 years. More interested in trying other drugs in the 2c catagory or other euphoric stims. I don't need drugs to feel empathy ;)
 
captain codshit said:
Don't bother trying to come all sanctimonious with me. Your arguments are all based on pure ignorance and speculation. Nobody cares. Come back when you actually know what your talking about, toolbag :)
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Errrrrrrrrr............my opinion on crystal meth is based on my experience smoking crystal meth.

I also have a friend in Melbourne who was addicted to it for 6 months. During that time, he lost 1/3 of his body weight. And beleive me, he wasn't remotely fat before he lost that weight.

There's a reason crystal meth has such a bad reputation. But like I say, it's your body, and I know you're not gonna listen to anyone else's scare stories.
 
So it's ok for you to try things but not me. I'm just supposed to go by your experiance?

Maybe it wasn't for you. Mushrooms certainly aren't for me, had a bad trip on them a while ago.

The way you try to put your opinions across as being fact for everyone is ridiculous. You always know best huh? TBH I tried not to be a cunt in your speculation thread as I could see you'd probably get enough stick. But you come on here shouting speculation and propeganda. Your ignorant. You have no understanding of what anyone else says. Your opinion is the one and only.

Even though there were about 50:1 saying they were good pills you start saying they don't know what MDMA is yadayadayada... even though you've only tried them once. And you don't understand the same batch of pills can effect you differently everytime.

Your opinions are troll shit mate. And no wonder not many people empathise with you. Cunt.
 
parttime crackhead said:
It's got to be fun up to a point though eh?
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Personally, I don't think the euphoria even comes close to MDMA. But if you're after something that will give you energy to dance for fucking ages, then I guess meth is a good choice.

And if you really insist on taking it, bombing it is certainly better for you than smoking it (smoking it can really fuck up your throat & lungs).
 
captain codshit said:
Your opinions are troll shit mate. And no wonder not many people empathise with you. Cunt.
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Chill!!! You just seem to have a really naive opinion about meth, like it's some kind of wonder-drug that you simply can't bear not to try. I know you couldn't care less about my opinions, but with meth it isn't just me who says it's nasty shit; it's quite a lot of people.
 
Hey captain i hope you get nice big clear crystals mate.
Valium- yeah mate meth 'base' in that pic was d-l meth. Racemic would be more used here by the more experienced cook because For quite afew years here in australia pseudoephedrine has been highly watched, your liscense is recorded when you buy cold&flu medicine and ethedrine is totally banned here. Apparetly p2p symph can produce high quality racemic crystal meth by firstly producing another hcl (forget its name) and then reverting it to meth. The crystals tend to be more shiny and smooth when they are ketone type. Pseudo meth isnt worth the chasing for the large scale setups. China makes large scale dex meth.
Last couple months here in australia 4mar has popped up again. Apparently the chems are easier to source it just is harder to make. Last two times when i have got some 'ice' it was 4mar. Both crystal meth and 4mar is called ice here so you cant complain
 
To answer original question. Yes. It is big on the gay scene apparently. Expensive as hell though. Personally only had it once in UK and once in Cambodia. It's shit, imo. I'm with a guy in rehab at the moment who was on it and he looked fucking ill for about a week when he came in.
 
I can understand why people are extolling the potential harm of Meth as it can realllly fuck people up... however it can also be absolutely OK in my humble opinion... each to there own.... mushrooms and lsd are much more safe physically but can send you completely whacko, all drugs or anything for that matter can fuck you up,

Personally I would love some meth in the UK and am jealous of any cunts finding it. That includes you Captain C

Also to add I think meph is alot worse than meth...
 
I have never seen it in europe but I had some when I was in Kentucky. I got it in the toilets from a jockey/workrider in the the toilets of a horse sale. It was powder not crystal and on the tounge and I found it jittery then boring. I had to smoke alot of the very very good local weed and sip a little Makers Mark to come down. So my axiom is.

If you Yabba Dab a,
do have some Dagga,
To sort out the Gaba's.
 
gannetsarewe said:
I have never seen it in europe but I had some when I was in Kentucky. I got it in the toilets from a jockey/workrider in the the toilets of a horse sale. It was powder not crystal and on the tounge and I found it jittery then boring. I had to smoke alot of the very very good local weed and sip a little Makers Mark to come down. So my axiom is.

If you Yabba Dab a,
do have some Dagga,
To sort out the Gaba's.
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sounds like you had crappy l-meth. no ral effects just makes your heart race and jittery, jus like having alot of sudafed tabs.
 
I have never been offered any or heard of any being available in the uk, although i can only speak for the North West. I've lived in Asia where use was widespread and West Australia where use was rife.

In terms of its place in UK culture, i see a possible place, in time of course. In Australia it was used by a variety of groups - college kids, ravers, young professionals and of course groups of hard users. I think its popularity could be linked to the lack of availability of cocaine, although base has always been popular in WA.
 
darkbydesign said:
I have never been offered any or heard of any being available in the uk, although i can only speak for the North West. I've lived in Asia where use was widespread and West Australia where use was rife.

In terms of its place in UK culture, i see a possible place, in time of course. In Australia it was used by a variety of groups - college kids, ravers, young professionals and of course groups of hard users. I think its popularity could be linked to the lack of availability of cocaine, although base has always been popular in WA.
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The 'base' form of methamphetamines is the more popular version (rather than crystal meth) in whole of australia. prob cos the base form is alot cheaper (about 50 pound a gram compared to 200 for crystal), has been in australia since late 70s/early 80s whereas crystal has only been around since mid to late 90s, and cos base doesnt have the same stigma attached to it compared to crystal meth. alot of uninformed ppl here in australia actually think they are consuming amphetamines not methamphetamines when taking 'base' when about 96% of 'speed' here is a form of methamphetamines.

As for meth being popular here due to lack of cocaine, coke is plentyful in aust atm (of very good quality) but i think its more to do with cocaine being very expensive and lasting 40-1hr whereas meth can last you 6-12 hours, and meth/speed has been well established in market before coke really come here.
for me having to snort coke and problems with nose being swollen/bloody/blocked next day cannot compare to smoking/snorting/eating meth. snorting meth only burns like hell.

from what i hear in Uk bout the quality of the speed/base being from average - crap i cant see it taking that long for methamphetamines making its prescense as meth compared to amps on average is stronger
 
i haven done it myself, not that much of a stim person (depressants is my docs) but i know its is here but not very common tho.. from denmark btw
 
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