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Anyone seen methamphetamine in the UK/Europe?

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captain codshit said:
Mate says he scored a gram of meth here on sat. £50 a g and said he never felt much off 100mg bomb then all of a sudden was electrified! :D Also said he smoked some. Apparently was going 30hrs off 250mg in total. Said it was kind of mushy stuff in amoungst it aswell though so not too sure. Also said come down was soul destroying and now has throat infection.
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Sounds like bollocks to me mate. Would he be the sort to lie?

I think the precursors are actually more available in europe than the states. You can buy a shit load of ephedrine from certain chemists online.
 
can get meth round here no problems... not that id want it, nasty stuff.
 
heres an anti drugs add by the australian gov. lol
www.health.gov.au/internet/drugs/publishing.nsf/Content/EC974B7001A02260CA2576D4007A939F/$File/NDC%20Ice%20Office.pdf
 
Skyline_GTR said:
P2P (aka BMK / benzl methyl ketone) can be used to make either amphetamines or methamphetamines, I think the only difference is that the chemist would use methylamine instead of ethylamine in the reaction to get meth, along with whatever reducing agent is used.

Now P2P, methylamine and ethylamine are all substances that have legitimate uses in industry and production of pharmaceuticals etc, so they are commerically available but are closely watched. All chemical supply companies have to adhere to strict reporting requirements for any suspicious purchase of wacthed chemicals. So, if you were to set up a ficticous company, rent out a premise, make an account with Sigma-Aldrich, then order 1kg of P2P, you wouldnt receive your order, rather you'd have an early morning wake up call with SOCA officers kicking your door down. (or the DEA in the States).

So small lab clandestine chemists do use pseudo-ephedrine because its relatively OTC in pharmaceutical products (although again it is a watched chemical itself so cant be ordered from a chemical supply company).

Big labs run by organised gangs have the resources to "divert" things like P2P, whether it be stealing it from legitimate labs or smuggling it from China etc.
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and using P2P i believe makes the high quality crystal meth.
but P2P + methylamine are like some of the most watched chems in the world so why would you risk importing P2P etc when for roughly the same risk you can just import pure crystal methamphetamine from china too.
 
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DS_ said:
Sounds like bollocks to me mate. Would he be the sort to lie?

I think the precursors are actually more available in europe than the states. You can buy a shit load of ephedrine from certain chemists online.
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He knows what good speed is like and he certainly knows MDMA and coke.

Still though so many people mixing up RC blends now it's hard to say. He swears it must have been cut meth, but could be some RC stuff.

I've only ever heard of meth being sold at £100 a gramme and not locally.
 
wat did it look like captain?? smell?? did u heat the 'meth'? when meth is melted it will recrystalise very quickly if a moist cloth is placed under the glass bowel. meth recrystalises white, and when all the meth is gone it will leave no residue. if its been cut you can use acetone to clean your meth.
 
OND - do you know why it would ever melt recrystalise a little black instead of clear / white? Can rem. seeing that a few times, perhaps sucrose cut?

For the people who have found in Europe / UK what are prices generally?

Know it was expensive as in OZ ($300/g) but then again speed was alot there 2 (and pills!).... wonder how much in America (and how cost would compare to crack?)

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Meth............ :P
 
OND43X said:
and using P2P i believe makes the high quality crystal meth.
but P2P + methylamine are like some of the most watched chems in the world so why would you risk importing P2P etc when for roughly the same risk you can just import pure crystal methamphetamine from china too.
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Because we're talking about UK labs producing amphetamines not meth! They wouldnt have been able to sell the meth as Shambles said above. Not now either, there simply isnt demand for large quantities here. If there was enough demand someone would be there arranging supply and making money.

Either way though, on reflection the P2P was probably diverted from Eastern Europe and they didnt deal with China at all, you have to remember that this was the 80s and 90s before the internet made it easy to make contacts and trade with China.

I just know that when these speed labs were bust they invariably found a load of drums containing P2P or traces of P2P.

As for methylamine, they probably made that themselves, it wouldn't have been that hard for them using formaldehyde and ammonium chloride? Both relatively easy to obtain I would think, and not too suspicous if bought separately.
 
neilios said:
OND - do you know why it would ever melt recrystalise a little black instead of clear / white? Can rem. seeing that a few times, perhaps sucrose cut?

For the people who have found in Europe / UK what are prices generally?

Know it was expensive as in OZ ($300/g) but then again speed was alot there 2 (and pills!).... wonder how much in America (and how cost would compare to crack?)

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Meth............ :P
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yeh everything is xpensive here, and meth has gone up here in australia but the quality has gone up too. here in sydney its $370-$400 a gram (200 pound) for high quality crystal meth and around $100 (50 pound) for base/butter meth as the americans call it.
neilios, it was most prob just some impurities still in the meth, i sometimes see it go light brown when it re-crystalises

lol im gunna get some meth soon (in about an hour an watch the opening game high on meth lol) PS go england and of course the aussies!
 
Nice - well it's alright for some!!! Enjoy ;) am stuck at work and have no meth (now or in the forseeable future!)
 
OND43X said:
lol im gunna get some meth soon (in about an hour an watch the opening game high on meth lol) PS go england and of course the aussies!
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Lucky you, I wanted to save some MDPV for the opening game, but ended up polishing it off last couple of days, oh well I have bacon, doritos, spicy dip and beer, I guess I'll be fine.
 
I heard from an Ozzie mate that Meph started turning up though (in Victoria, and these people are whacking it!) - think something ridiculous like $100 / 200 a gram or 50 a point, something like that, no longer legal in UK but not sure about OZ...

Thing is would rather Meth over Meph - to me the Meph comedown as bad if not worse (although perhaps the whole experience shorter which could be seen as good or bad),

Horses for courses though, would most likely rather coke as it agrees me with totally and doesn't give any real comedown (compared to those 2)
 
neilios said:
I heard from an Ozzie mate that Meph started turning up though (in Victoria, and these people are whacking it!) - think something ridiculous like $100 / 200 a gram or 50 a point, something like that, no longer legal in UK but not sure about OZ...

Thing is would rather Meth over Meph - to me the Meph comedown as bad if not worse (although perhaps the whole experience shorter which could be seen as good or bad),

Horses for courses though, would most likely rather coke as it agrees me with totally and doesn't give any real comedown (compared to those 2)
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Australia has really strict customs though, so even if an RC is technically legal you'd still have problems getting it in, also I've seen so many companies that don't ship down under.
 
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Glad this thread has been bumped...

My quest has gone on unfulfilled...

Mods - can we change the title of this thread to EADD want pure icy shards of beautiful crystal meth on tap, please supply post haste - Mods- is that too far away from harm reduction?

On another note I pur-chased some "speed" on Saturday - BALK - argh, it was mother-flipping !SWEET! - I actually chopped up, dried out and snorted, didn't realise til the misses pointed out that it was !SWEET! -

I mean like WTF WTF - that shit should taste nasty - it was yellowey aswell - ended up dropping it accidentally into a glass of water and while on K was almost tempted to drop a post on BL asking how can I reextract to make snortable/smokeable but was far too wasted - incidentally I ended up tipping that glass of water away down the toilet, with the rest of the shit.

So, another shout out to all dem cooks, we want Methhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(Note that I have only had a coffee this morning and am writing this from work, just excited because it's Thursday...)
 
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