^ lol. ok.
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Erikmen
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Alasdair, I really like your answers and how lightly yet firmly you make your point. Not specifically now but in most of your postings.
Not nostalgic
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That person you fell in love with on first sight.
No the other person you fell in love with on first sight.
No the other person you fell in love with on first sight.
No the other person you fell in love with on first sight.
No the other person you fell in love with on first sight.
One Thousand Words
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I fell in love at first sight with a woman who picked me up hitch hiking. Her car was covered in stuffed animals and she drove a stick shift like a F1 driver on speed.
I now fall asleep every night holding her hand.
I now fall asleep every night holding her hand.
swilow
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^Is that true?
I like how you didn't mention her looks at all.
Well, I hope you are okay. Are you somewhere safe and nice?
I'm not sure how helpful these topics are when they get going like this but Ninae, it is confusing when you raise what seem like disparate things (physical beauty and spiritual 'purity'- not sure if right word) and then fail to show how they are actually connected. For me, at first glance it seems like a really naive way of assesing reality, because you are deriving information from a source that isn't capable of generating it. So it seems like its just being imagined. And it doesn't get better when asked for explanation.
Note that I'm not attacking you here or trying to upset you. Perhaps there is something to discuss, but basically, I'm not sure the forum is actually the spot for such one-sided musings. Its probably a bit frustrating for people to read this stuff as its largely impenetrable and if people do raise something, you get defensive. I don't actually blame you for that; I understand it but you need to understand how this stuff seems- to most- and made worse when questioning it is put down as incomprehension.
I like how you didn't mention her looks at all.
Well, I hope you are okay. Are you somewhere safe and nice?
I'm not sure how helpful these topics are when they get going like this but Ninae, it is confusing when you raise what seem like disparate things (physical beauty and spiritual 'purity'- not sure if right word) and then fail to show how they are actually connected. For me, at first glance it seems like a really naive way of assesing reality, because you are deriving information from a source that isn't capable of generating it. So it seems like its just being imagined. And it doesn't get better when asked for explanation.
Note that I'm not attacking you here or trying to upset you. Perhaps there is something to discuss, but basically, I'm not sure the forum is actually the spot for such one-sided musings. Its probably a bit frustrating for people to read this stuff as its largely impenetrable and if people do raise something, you get defensive. I don't actually blame you for that; I understand it but you need to understand how this stuff seems- to most- and made worse when questioning it is put down as incomprehension.
Xorkoth
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A good, fair and thoughtful question IMO! So far I have done a good third of a century more than your 20 years, and have to say, still working on it, may have an answer in... well, best not to make predictions at this age? All I'd suggest, off the top of my head, is be open and kind to people, (even if they don't deserve it!), give everyone a chance, and from time to time you will find and meet a few special and precious ones, who may not be what you ever expect at first, but will in time show themselves. It does 'get easier' I suppose, but often at the expense of getting harder, which is unavoidable I fear. And never forget what is really important by becoming totally weighed down by daily life and worries.
There we are, that's it in a nutshell! I wish you a long, happy and rewarding life... if there is any 'message' about life, I think we are here to learn things and somehow improve ourselves - and learning the true meaning of Love is a good, safe and harmless way to start I reckon? Please feel free to ask again in another 20 years, and tell me how you are doing - I might have a better answer for you!?
Or a spanner in the works?
CosmicG
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I stopped thinking about these sorts of things long ago I guess. It's exhausting looking for answers to explain something that does not have an explanations. You have figured it out when you come to the realization that there is nothing to figure out. You become yourself when you realize that you have been the entire time. These thoughts that drive most fully aware to the brink of insanity tormenting us for what? Find love and don't think whenever possible. Remember the important things. The things that make you happy. Spread that love by being the type of person you want to be around every minute of every day. Love. Life isn't complicated at all. Fight the machine by ascending above it. Consciousness is in the mind. The mind controls all. Life.
One Thousand Words
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^Is that true?
I like how you didn't mention her looks at all.
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Her smile didn't hurt but I love her sense of adventure and twisted humour just as much 7 years later
Well said... but like all trips it can be good and bad, euphoric and miserable, tiresome and inspirational - sometimes all at once. And will, inevitably, come to an end one day I suppose - but a good end I suspect, not a 'comedown'! Hopefully, all will become clear when that happens, I have every faith that it will be.
There is a lot of wisdom on this thread in places, some quite bewildering and strange, but all interesting in some way. Just like everything else in life, we all have rather different tastes, desires and aspirations, but when it comes down to it, wish to be (or at least feel?) safe, secure, healthy and loved... and I think that giving and receiving love is the key to everything in the end. Sex is another matter, a lovely bonus, especially when it goes with love - but not the be all and end all, or key to a happy, satisfied life.
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I couldnt agree more.
everything we think about, we know already.
theres not a single thing that you can think that you didnt knew.
the experience of a silent mind will give insight. people think they gain insight with their thinking process but they actually are going in the wrong direction.
there nothing to think about, everything to experience.
experiencing life with no thoughts is the only way to happiness.
No thoughts, no matter how beautiful the thought, can replace the peace, contentment and tranquility found in a silent and mindful mind.
It wasn't that I objected to explaining what I meant, I just got the impression it was a bit off-topic and tried to keep it to a minimum. What I was referring to was being accused of being "beyond ridiculous" just because someone couldn't see what I meant, and the way a lot of posters get away with giving me a lot of crap, even in a consistent way, which others don't seem to have to put up with, and I don't speak to people like that myself.
My idea is just that visual beauty exists on two levels and there is also a non-physical dimension involved in it. The way I see it, someone's aura or personal energies is also involved in how we visually perceive them, or somehow perceptible, and positive and high-vibrating energy is more pleasent to look at than negative and low-vibrating energy (you can of course argue whether there is such a thing, I realise not all will agree). I also think this is one reason people lose their beauty with age (aside from physic. Children and babies also have a wonderful aura and very beautiful energy which can give them heavenly beautiful eyes, etc.
As for HC, obviously one of the most beautiful people most will have seen, and just on the physical level comparable to Michelangelos David with the way her face is sculpted.
But even more than that I find what makes her stand out is her beautiful aura or energy which gives her tremendously beautiful eyes and creates a special glow around her (I don't see "auras" in colours and shapes, I just perceive it as a form of glow around them, but I'm very sensitive to how positive/negative and spiritual it is). As a young woman she was also one of the most spiritual-looking women I have seen and almost looked like a goddess or priestess-type.
(It's in the eyes and glow of the face - or what I call "spiritual beauty")
Like I said, I don't think she has aged so well and looks quite miserable these days, which I think most would agree on. Her energy is noticably more negative and I think that is part of it, it's like she has lost her spark.
Of course these are only my personal thoughts and observations and something I just thought some might find interesting for me to share.
I think you can get too caught up in seeing things as what is "wrong" or "right" when this doesn't really apply to spiritual ideas in the same way as some things. I usually just post ideas like that as a means to share and don't set out to start a debate or proving what can't really be proven. Maybe it's as this board is mostly made up of men who are more competitive, you seem to want to turn everything into a debate or discussion, but there are other ways to discuss things which can be more suitable for this particular subject (I don't mean you can't debate, just that there are other ways of communicating that can be better when it comes to these things).
But does anyone else find they can experience upliftment or elevation of consciousness while taking in beautiful visuals, in the same way as listening to beautiful music can? I find this to be the case, particularly in observing nature or beautiful works of art, but the human form can also be like a work of art. And especially women, who seem to channel beauty in a purer way, and I also think of it as one of the feminine qualities, like power and intelligence are masculine (of course not reserved to one gender). That's also why I like pictures of exceptionally beautiful women, not because I'm gay, it can just have an uplifting effect like sounds can have and I'm not envious or anything, I'm happy for them (I know some women hate the sight of beautiful women), but I know I'm weird.
My idea is just that visual beauty exists on two levels and there is also a non-physical dimension involved in it. The way I see it, someone's aura or personal energies is also involved in how we visually perceive them, or somehow perceptible, and positive and high-vibrating energy is more pleasent to look at than negative and low-vibrating energy (you can of course argue whether there is such a thing, I realise not all will agree). I also think this is one reason people lose their beauty with age (aside from physic. Children and babies also have a wonderful aura and very beautiful energy which can give them heavenly beautiful eyes, etc.
As for HC, obviously one of the most beautiful people most will have seen, and just on the physical level comparable to Michelangelos David with the way her face is sculpted.
But even more than that I find what makes her stand out is her beautiful aura or energy which gives her tremendously beautiful eyes and creates a special glow around her (I don't see "auras" in colours and shapes, I just perceive it as a form of glow around them, but I'm very sensitive to how positive/negative and spiritual it is). As a young woman she was also one of the most spiritual-looking women I have seen and almost looked like a goddess or priestess-type.
(It's in the eyes and glow of the face - or what I call "spiritual beauty")
Like I said, I don't think she has aged so well and looks quite miserable these days, which I think most would agree on. Her energy is noticably more negative and I think that is part of it, it's like she has lost her spark.
Of course these are only my personal thoughts and observations and something I just thought some might find interesting for me to share.
I think you can get too caught up in seeing things as what is "wrong" or "right" when this doesn't really apply to spiritual ideas in the same way as some things. I usually just post ideas like that as a means to share and don't set out to start a debate or proving what can't really be proven. Maybe it's as this board is mostly made up of men who are more competitive, you seem to want to turn everything into a debate or discussion, but there are other ways to discuss things which can be more suitable for this particular subject (I don't mean you can't debate, just that there are other ways of communicating that can be better when it comes to these things).
But does anyone else find they can experience upliftment or elevation of consciousness while taking in beautiful visuals, in the same way as listening to beautiful music can? I find this to be the case, particularly in observing nature or beautiful works of art, but the human form can also be like a work of art. And especially women, who seem to channel beauty in a purer way, and I also think of it as one of the feminine qualities, like power and intelligence are masculine (of course not reserved to one gender). That's also why I like pictures of exceptionally beautiful women, not because I'm gay, it can just have an uplifting effect like sounds can have and I'm not envious or anything, I'm happy for them (I know some women hate the sight of beautiful women), but I know I'm weird.
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Xorkoth
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Yes, absolutely. I feel that upliftment/inspiration/elevation whenever I experience beauty of any kind, be it visual, audio, mental, emotional, olfactory, etc. That's why art of all kinds is the greatest of achievements, and why I am an artist and always will be. I get what you're saying about looking at beautiful women... women are just more beautiful than men, and experiencing the sight of them is a beautiful thing. Particularly if you're in their presence.
Every day I experience so much beauty because the world is art, it's all art, if that's what you look for in it. The infinite detail in every natural structure, the feeling and sound of music and the visceral emotional response it evokes, the smell of great food or fresh forest air... it's all around, all the time.
This, to me, is the meaning of the saying "stop and smell the roses".
socko
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Me too. I spend time in nature and mountain climbing and enjoy the uplifting vistas. I appreciate beauty like HC too. It's enought to make me want to fall in love, as the song goes, because in the end, love matters.
Britt Ekland was a true bimbo but also uplifting to look at in that sense. I love her quality of love and light and the sweetness she had about her when she was young. Unfortunately that kind of consciousness is something most seem to grow out of as life hits them harder and harder.
Another thing, as women age we seem to become more masculine and lose some of our feminine charm. I guess because it's needed to look after yourself, which isn't so easy when you're young and vulnerable. But you can be more trusting and open in that early stage (often too much). I also think it's something men find attractive in younger women, or that femininity and sweeter personality, it's quite precious.
By the way, I'd lover to draw that portrait. The combination of her hair, deep blue eyes, and skin...and the lips and amazing facial structure. Not quite in the same class as HC, anyone would look plain compared to that, but definitely worth looking at.
Another thing, as women age we seem to become more masculine and lose some of our feminine charm. I guess because it's needed to look after yourself, which isn't so easy when you're young and vulnerable. But you can be more trusting and open in that early stage (often too much). I also think it's something men find attractive in younger women, or that femininity and sweeter personality, it's quite precious.
By the way, I'd lover to draw that portrait. The combination of her hair, deep blue eyes, and skin...and the lips and amazing facial structure. Not quite in the same class as HC, anyone would look plain compared to that, but definitely worth looking at.
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BornAgainYogi
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if by chance you're still on here in the next twenty years maybe I will
thanks for the answer I think it may have actually helped. Thanks and if I could offer you some advice I would say rekindling old friendships is never a bad thing Yes, absolutely. I feel that upliftment/inspiration/elevation whenever I experience beauty of any kind, be it visual, audio, mental, emotional, olfactory, etc. That's why art of all kinds is the greatest of achievements, and why I am an artist and always will be. I get what you're saying about looking at beautiful women... women are just more beautiful than men, and experiencing the sight of them is a beautiful thing. Particularly if you're in their presence.
Every day I experience so much beauty because the world is art, it's all art, if that's what you look for in it. The infinite detail in every natural structure, the feeling and sound of music and the visceral emotional response it evokes, the smell of great food or fresh forest air... it's all around, all the time.
Only this spring did I actually appreciate what you have so beautifully expressed there Xorkoth, after several years of dismal depression... and got out all my great mass of paints, pencils, pastels, sorted them out - and for some reason, I felt a peculiar urge to do a picture on the wall. Much to the horror and dismay of my dear landlady, but I thought (perhaps naively?) that if I made it really, really good, I might be forgiven. I chose to do a sort of 'trompe deoeill' (SP?) thing, as if it were looking through a stone, sort of 'castle' window, with a massive Cedar of Lebanon in the foreground, in tribute to my favourite tree, one of three planted in the local churhcyard to celebrate the Coronation of Queen Anne. It fell a couple of years ago... broke my heart! And a lot of graves, but I left them out....
Luckily I have one massive, exquisitely beautiful example left 'for reference', and have been watching it bloom and blossom every day, marvelling at the way it changes, and I must confess, cursing that I have chosen to paint the most complicated, fantastically intricate tree in London, no exaggeration! However, I have truly appreciated the true, marvellous beauty of it... and all the other trees and plants surrounding it. Can you actually 'fall in love' with a tree? I know now that you can, and that love has grown and extended to the whole of nature.... as well as my art, which I feel has a strong 'spiritual' element to it sometimes. This picture got off to a shaky start, looked flat and dull, and I was about to admit defeat and roller a few coats of Dulux over it at one point - then came a strange, inspirational day, when I picked up a grotty old brush, loaded it with a mucky green, and almost watched as my hand was 'taken over', and moved like lightning, splashing, streaking and magically bringing the picture to life. Not my work... I know who came to help, a brilliant artist I had a connection with once... bless him!
Ninae, your appreciation of female beauty is very appealing to me, as it would be to any fellow... straight or gay! She honstly looks as lovely in the last picture as the first to me even so... maybe as I'm now well into my 50's she looks a bit more 'possible' perhaps? Being no longer chained to my libido (what there was of it!), I really enjoy the company of women and girls of all ages, and truly recognise their actual beauty, without lust getting in the way and causing heartache, trouble and the agony of 'love at first sight' I was always a martyr to when younger. I may still be vulnerable, who knows.... I shall see!