So I havnt had must experience with bupe. Ive had some pretty serious serious warnings about how hard bupe is to quit & how im playing with fire. but I dont get it. I honestly think trying out bupe is harmless. It's used to quit oxy & h right?
well Ive done oxy occasionally for ages. Ive actually had 160mg all at once one time. which ofcourse made me throw up later on but i usually dose 80mg. I find it a pretty mild high with not all that much euphoria. I mean it's a little better than codeine. I find the codeine peak to feel sometimes better but it only lasts about a minute at 400mg or more. Ive never had any w/d symptoms from oxy so why is bupe so bad?
Now if bupe is used to quit oxy than oxy is obviously harder to quit. Is that right?
if that wasnt the case ppl would be using oxy to quit bupe.
Like I said I dont understand all these warning to be careful it's really addictive BS.
anyways I have little tolerance to codeine besides cwe codeine.
I've had 150mg of valium tonight, drunk with GFJ . I know what ya thinking. that's an insane dose. It's the highest dose ive ever had & I still font feel tired. maybe a tiny bit calmer (I think valium woould give a better high than xanax but yad need atleast 300mg) im still gunna need to take an actual sleeping tablet to go to sleep. I dont know how I can have a tolerance either. I only use 3 times a month. either Valium or temazepam. enough about that though.
I just had 24mg of Subutex about 1/2 an hr ago. I suppose most ppl consider 16mg to be the usual dose?
I know it takes about 1/2 an hr after finishing holding it under ya tongue to peak but im just curious if this stuff is actually recreational or is it just good for getting rid of w/d?
if it is recreational what dose of oxy do u think 24mg would be equivalent too. The BL opiate converter is wrong about this one cuz it says it equals 800mg. why is that?
Is it not how strong the effects are but its affinity to opiate receptors or potency or something.
Can someone explain this to me?
So how is bupe compared to other opiates recreationally?
like I said I before I have little tolerance to opiates. 400mg of codeine 3-4 times a week but ive quit that now. Only on the 3rd day but im gunna stop taking it.
would 24mg be atleast equal to 400mg of codeine?
how much oxy would 24mg be really equal too recreationally that is. if it was REALLY 800mg well im gunna be in the ER soon. but I really doubt that's gunna happen. i'll be happy is it makes me feel as good as 40mg of oxy but Im expecting a high similar to 20mg of oxy.
I had some yesterday but I was really tired & scattered from the night before doing oxy & meth which i very rarely touch & it seemed to work great but i was probably cuz I was so tired from not sleeping at all the night before. it seemed to make me feel more normal than other opiates. not like im chemically high if u know what I mean. I heard on wikipedia it has potential to be a better antidepressant than ya typical SSRIs.
interesting.
If I find it at all recreational I can swap some Valiums for some subs tomorrow. I dont have enough valiums to do anything anyway. funny everyone else I i know only needs a few or em. guess i fucked up my brain from smoking pot when I was younger...
so can anyone help me out with my inquiries?
well Ive done oxy occasionally for ages. Ive actually had 160mg all at once one time. which ofcourse made me throw up later on but i usually dose 80mg. I find it a pretty mild high with not all that much euphoria. I mean it's a little better than codeine. I find the codeine peak to feel sometimes better but it only lasts about a minute at 400mg or more. Ive never had any w/d symptoms from oxy so why is bupe so bad?
Now if bupe is used to quit oxy than oxy is obviously harder to quit. Is that right?
if that wasnt the case ppl would be using oxy to quit bupe.
Like I said I dont understand all these warning to be careful it's really addictive BS.
anyways I have little tolerance to codeine besides cwe codeine.
I've had 150mg of valium tonight, drunk with GFJ . I know what ya thinking. that's an insane dose. It's the highest dose ive ever had & I still font feel tired. maybe a tiny bit calmer (I think valium woould give a better high than xanax but yad need atleast 300mg) im still gunna need to take an actual sleeping tablet to go to sleep. I dont know how I can have a tolerance either. I only use 3 times a month. either Valium or temazepam. enough about that though.
I just had 24mg of Subutex about 1/2 an hr ago. I suppose most ppl consider 16mg to be the usual dose?
I know it takes about 1/2 an hr after finishing holding it under ya tongue to peak but im just curious if this stuff is actually recreational or is it just good for getting rid of w/d?
if it is recreational what dose of oxy do u think 24mg would be equivalent too. The BL opiate converter is wrong about this one cuz it says it equals 800mg. why is that?
Is it not how strong the effects are but its affinity to opiate receptors or potency or something.
Can someone explain this to me?
So how is bupe compared to other opiates recreationally?
like I said I before I have little tolerance to opiates. 400mg of codeine 3-4 times a week but ive quit that now. Only on the 3rd day but im gunna stop taking it.
would 24mg be atleast equal to 400mg of codeine?
how much oxy would 24mg be really equal too recreationally that is. if it was REALLY 800mg well im gunna be in the ER soon. but I really doubt that's gunna happen. i'll be happy is it makes me feel as good as 40mg of oxy but Im expecting a high similar to 20mg of oxy.
I had some yesterday but I was really tired & scattered from the night before doing oxy & meth which i very rarely touch & it seemed to work great but i was probably cuz I was so tired from not sleeping at all the night before. it seemed to make me feel more normal than other opiates. not like im chemically high if u know what I mean. I heard on wikipedia it has potential to be a better antidepressant than ya typical SSRIs.
interesting.
If I find it at all recreational I can swap some Valiums for some subs tomorrow. I dont have enough valiums to do anything anyway. funny everyone else I i know only needs a few or em. guess i fucked up my brain from smoking pot when I was younger...
so can anyone help me out with my inquiries?
