Anyone ever here of dope called scramble?

[bud marley]

It's a form of heroin that comes in capsules and come in $10 or $6 capsules.I live on the east coast and when I was shooting I used the blue wax bags but was talked into going to a different city and to buy the capsules because I was told they were the best.
Anyway I was sorley dissapointed because the shit sucked.It was real because when I did it I got unill but no buzz no matter how many I did(I did 5 $10 in a 15 min span).Oh and my fisrt cap was a throw away because I left it in my work to long and it hardened into like cement and I had to throw my needle out.Has anyone ever heard of dope that turns hard if you don't blast it right away?I would never do that shit again,actually I hope I'll never do any dope again(on methadone again)but if I did it wouldn't be junk ass scramble!
Anyone else try this shit?If so did you like it?

 

[kemikals]

i think its more of an east coast thing, but scramble usually refers to low quality dope. as for it turning hard, maybe it was cut with cement who knows.

 

[rivered1]

Yep we see that around here alot. Its the worst type of dope, thats why you get a big gelcap filled with this very fluffy, bright white, powdery stuff. Alot of it just gets stuck in your nose when you sniff it and doesnt really dissolve all that well. I wouldnt even think of shooting that shit. I've heard a range of things that its cut with, even stuff like sweetner. And any high you can get off of it is nothing like a god dope high... you just feel tired really.

 

[rachamim18]

scrambled...

"Scramble" is a slang word to describe highly adulterated heroin. It started with black junkies in Harlem in the early 60s. Its opposite slang word is "P-Dope" which denotes highly unadulterated heroin.

 

[rachamim18]

Dope turning to cement...

Yeah, I have heard of that. It is called "You got beat!" You did not get scramble, you got sheetrock or flour.

 

[rivered1]

Doesnt P-Dope also refer to Fentanyl cut dope?

 

[bud marley]

Whatever it was it had trace amounts of dope in it because it got me well after being dead sick.Though granted it wasn't much.
I have also heard dope called P from the other big city I go to(actually we call it P funk because of George Clintons band but originally just P)and it is blazing.
Thanks for the education rachamim18 and kemikals
and thanks for the replys to everyone else!
For being a dope user I was quite fortunate because I live a little over an hour from Philly,about hour and half from Baltimore,2 hours from D.c. and 3 hours from New York City(not to mention living close to Camden NJ and a few other smaller citys citys).Anyway the shitty scramble came from Baltimore and the killer I used to get came from Philly or New York but the best dope I'd ever gotten would come from Camden or Newark NJ but they were pretty rough spots so I didn't go there to often!

 

[K'dOUTinAZ]

Doesnt P-Dope also refer to Fentanyl cut dope?

P-Dope is slang for rather pure dope, Heroin cut with PCP, and Fentanyl cut heroin. Any of the three. Negrogesic provided all this information. I researched further and he was correct. I can't speak from experience because I live in Arizona where all we get is tar heroin.

It's a form of heroin that comes in capsules and come in $10 or $6 capsules.

Shit, thats expensive for such crap as you described. One bag of tar in Arizona goes for $10-$15, depending on who I get it from. And the bags always contain at least .1g. How much of that crap is in those capsules?

 

[rachamim18]

Wrong...

Kdou: Wrong. It refers to very pure heroin - plain and simple. It [like scramble] started in Harlem with black junkies in the early 60s. It is not heroin cut with PCP [even if such an animal existed]. The capsules usually contain 100 mgs of very adulterated heroin. New York has not had caps of dope since the early 70s but down south you can still find it. I used to see it alot in Tampa. They usually sell for 10 bucks.

 

[rivered1]

K'dout the gel capsules are filled with quite a bit of the stuff... imagine a fatter and slightly longer brand name tylenol pill. Thats about the size of $10 caps around here and its completely filled. Very abscure description but its the best I can think of since its been a while from the last time I did scramble. My guesstimation would be something like 300-600mg. What a fucking pointless form of street heroin.

rachamim: Of course good ol bmore still sells the caps... I consider us north but some might say we are south. Its usually easier to find the capsules then vials or baggies.

 

[K'dOUTinAZ]

Re: Wrong...

Kdou: Wrong. It refers to very pure heroin - plain and simple. It [like scramble] started in Harlem with black junkies in the early 60s. It is not heroin cut with PCP [even if such an animal existed].

Nope I'm sorry, you are the one who is wrong. I trust a moderators word over yours. It doesn't just refer to pure heroin. How could you be so ignorant? I expected more from you. Heroin is still cut with PCP as we speak and P-Dope is a slang term for it. Pure heroin is also another slang for P-Dope and is by far the more common slang. 20-30% pure heroin.

 

[rivered1]

Just because it says Moderator under a persons name doesnt automatically make his word any more creditable then the next asshole (not refering to anyone). What the hell is the point of cutting heroin with PCP? To make it so they/ll never buy it from that person/area again?

 

[rachamim18]

Zzzz...

Uh,sorry to break it to you Kdou but I also posted on that thread. Go back and read it again and see if you want to stick yourself out on that limb...and while you are at it please give me one verifiable account of heroin being cut with PCP...and as far as trusting a moderator, I have a strong feeling that the moderator you take such liberty quoting would agree with my opinion.You are 22...I am 37...you do the math and tell me that you are better equipped to tell me the slang in my own neighborhood...

 

[soundphaRm]

Using slang in reference to drugs is stupid anyway...it just breeds confusion and ignorance.
"Heroin cut with PCP" is a much better description than "P-Dope". Who the hell is going to know what "P-Dope" is anyway unless someone tells them "Uh, it's Heroin cut w/ PCP", or they stick it in their arm and find out the hard way.
Screw slang- just tell me what's in the damn capsule and be done with it...

 

[rachamim18]

No offense...

I think you just missed the train...There is no such thing as heroin cut with PCP. If you think slang is a bad thing than it is safe to assume that you call heroin "diacetylmorphine?" Heroin my friend is a slang word. Heroin is in fact a brand name of a Bayer Company product produced before 1920...Slang serves a purpose in that it fosters a sense of exclusiveness [i.e. community].

 

[soundphaRm]

No offense taken. As you said yourself, Heroin is a brand name developed by Bayer Pharmaceuticals, so is therefore technically not slang. And yes, being an RN on my way to my Nurse Practitioner license, I do sometimes call heroin diacetylmorphine, which is actually its generic nomenclature.

You know, you really shouldn't lecture people as if they're stupid, because you never know who you're talking to.

And to sate that, "There's no such thing as heroin laced with PCP", kind of lets your ignorance show through. It might be pretty rare, but I know there is such a thing, as when I was working at Barnes Hospital (St. Louis, MO), we treated several people in the ER for delerium/psychosis. Upon learning more from the patient, and conducting toxicology tests, we learned that they went to purchase heroin, and got a little more than they bargained for (PCP in their heroin). So I know for a fact that it's out there.

And yes, I understand your point about "slang", but it still doesn't refute the fact that by using slang to refer to drugs, you're not REALLY telling people what's in their dope. Please try to tell me that this is not a dangerous (even deadly) practice. When people are messing around with various drugs recreationally (esp. drugs that will most likely be IV'd), they should know EXACTLY what they are ingesting. There are many other productive ways of fostering community that aren't quite so (possibly) deadly.

Otherwise, like all drug slang, I'm sure that "P-Dope" means different things in different areas.
So I didn't really miss the train, Rachamim18, it's just that you don't see me on the train, because I'm riding in a first-class sleeper car...

 

[K'dOUTinAZ]

I'm going to drop this on the account that "I" myself, has never even tried "P-Dope" in the first place and leave this to those who do know a thing or two about "P-Dope". All that I know about this slang of a slang is mere websites that list slang terms, which aren't that great of sources to begin with...and what I heard from negrgesic. Yes, heroin is a slang term for diacetylmorphine but P-Dope is a slang term of a slang term, making it more confusing. And in defense of trusting words of a moderator, that doesn't mean shit, but I do trust the word of Negrogesic over just about everybody else (when it comes to opioids) due to his vast knowledge of opioids and personal experience. I don't plan on moving anywhere east from where I live so it is doubtful that I would ever run across P-Dope.

Also, resorting to stupid phases like "You missed the train" is ridiculous at the very least and just straight immature, especially for a 38 year old. Your only offending yourself with crap like that. It shows on your part. I chcukled myself when I read that so obviouslly it ain't offending me in any sort of way. If you were to give your facts straight without that suger coated bullshit then your words would have much more meaning.

 

[Synapse999]

P-dope, is just the slang for heroin on east coast as far as i knew. But i have seen it used in two different ways from the same place.

The nutmeg rehab center in Connecticut, refers to herion as P-dope in there documents there.(awhile back)
They had a list of opiods they treat for, herion wasn't on the list. When asked, they refered p-dope as being term they used.


But then, about a year later....when on their website...
it says they treat for heroin AND p-dope.

found this old link, where they claim to treat for both drugs. As seperate drugs.


http://connecticut.uscity.net/Drug_Abuse/Drug_Abuse_and_Addiction/


I have never done herion....but i'm in an area where its more common then just about anything....so the rehab centers are plentiful too.
only reason i have heard of it. heh

 

[soundphaRm]

Nutmeg Rehab Center? Is that really the name?
No offense, I just thought that was a pretty funny name for a rehab.
That would really suck to be addicted to nutmeg...

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

 

[Synapse999]

Nutmeg Rehab Center? Is that really the name?
No offense, I just thought that was a pretty funny name for a rehab.
That would really suck to be addicted to nutmeg...

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

LOL, didn't think about the name like that....


connecticut's nickname is "The Nutmeg State" - So i assume this place is real into slang.. instead of saying CT ;p






""The sobriquet, the Nutmeg State, is applied to Connecticut because its early inhabitants had the reputation of being so ingenious and shrewd that they were able to make and sell wooden nutmegs. Sam Slick (Judge Halliburton) seems to be the originator of this story. Some claim that wooden nutmegs were actually sold, but they do not give either the time or the place."




So yeah..uhhh......
East coast is big on messing with names maybe.