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Anyone ever had a bad experience with BDSM?

Sorry you had a horrid experience. "Consent under duress". Sounds like "not rape but feels like it"?

That actually perfectly summarises it. I thought it wouldn’t be a big deal, just do it, but after my mind and body had other ideas and couldn’t handle the decision I’d made. Full gammet of emotions ensued for months.

I am in my 40s now, but seriously when I was in my 20s I fucked so many bores I did not really want to fuck ...sometimes just to make them go away! Or because it seemed "uptight"or rude to not put out ...

Oh Jesus I feel you. I don’t want to keep down this path. I know I need to set firmer boundaries and learn when to walk away. Hopefully with all the therapy I’m getting I will learn that sooner rather than later. Sigh.
 
Once I finally ended up in bed with a girl who I quite liked as a person but who was quite a few years younger than me. It was her idea to go to bed but I was keen. It started off feeling very special but suddenly she switched into this sub mode and kept telling me to slap her and choke her out.

I didn’t want to but lightly obliged in a kind of make-it-a-joke way but she just wanted harder and harder. I had to stop the whole thing as it made me feel dirtier than I ever have in a lifetime of doing dirty things.

Turned out this girl was relatively inexperienced with guys but had basicaly been taught from porn and young guys that it was mainstream normal.
 
It is very popular these days (thankfully, makes it easier to find a partner). People are becoming more sex positive.
 
Once I finally ended up in bed with a girl who I quite liked as a person but who was quite a few years younger than me. It was her idea to go to bed but I was keen. It started off feeling very special but suddenly she switched into this sub mode and kept telling me to slap her and choke her out.

I didn’t want to but lightly obliged in a kind of make-it-a-joke way but she just wanted harder and harder. I had to stop the whole thing as it made me feel dirtier than I ever have in a lifetime of doing dirty things.

Turned out this girl was relatively inexperienced with guys but had basicaly been taught from porn and young guys that it was mainstream normal.
That sounds yucky - ❤️ you're a nice sensible sounding man though!

I worry about my 17 year old daughter a bit because of the porn thing - it's normalising a lot of spooky shit. Like
me she seems to be a late developer (I didn't have sex til I was nearly 20 - just wasn't very interested - then my
libido suddenly kicked in hard and I went a bit beserk...) - anyway what I meant was daughter is still a virgin, and even a little worried about it and "what you do" and so forth. without embarrassing her I've said she absolutely ought not to do anything she doesn't feel like doing.
she's a self-positioned "radical feminist" and a lot smarter than me, so hopefully that'll help her be more sensible than I was!
 
That actually perfectly summarises it. I thought it wouldn’t be a big deal, just do it, but after my mind and body had other ideas and couldn’t handle the decision I’d made. Full gammet of emotions ensued for months.



Oh Jesus I feel you. I don’t want to keep down this path. I know I need to set firmer boundaries and learn when to walk away. Hopefully with all the therapy I’m getting I will learn that sooner rather than later. Sigh.
❤❤ When I got depressed about some of my sexual fiascos in my 20s, my best friend used to cheer me up by saying "your vagina is not your soul".
She had bipolar and during manic episodes she'd end up in some really whacky sexual situations. One of my fave memories of her is getting drunk together at her place and pissing ourselves laughing about how , um, undiscerning we could both be with the casual sex thing. She had these phrases, "actively revolting" and "chugnut"'with which she airily dismissed the worst of bad men and bad sex.
One time I was at a party with her, and really hurt because a musician I'd had a crush on and bonked was totally ignoring me. He was holding court in the kitchen, surrounded by sycophants, and I was standing there on the,outside of this clique, hoping he'd acknowledge my existence... She just grabbed my arm and in her American accent, said very loudly, "let's get out of here, these people are too GODDAMN UGLY." Which shut him (my musician) up,like a clam! Another time she prevented me from getting raped while I was passed out drunk on the floor. I came to and she was screaming "GET THE FUCK OFF HER" to some creep who'd waliked me home- she caught him out in the act of pulling down my tights and pants. She chased him out but she didn't need to - he was scared shitless!

Sorry bit off topic - just miss her so much sometimes - she committed suicide in 2003. The bipolar made her life hell.

Hope your therapy goes well! I am starting group therapy myself next week ... Feel free to PM/start a conversation with me if you care to! You rather remind me of myself when younger ❤️❤️❤️
 
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It is very popular these days (thankfully, makes it easier to find a partner). People are becoming more sex positive.
Trigger warning here btw ...

tis good to be sex positive but sometimes it seems like women need to,love their bodies more ... Like Atalier said, some of the porn is these days is really misogynist and promotes sex that could never be pleasurable for women in real life, and might even cause serious injury. Eg endless anal, being penetrated by massive dicks/implements, women gagging and getting choked...

My ex talked me into trying the "erotic asphyxiation" thing once - I didn't like it at all, and at the risk of sounding "judgemental", I don't see how anyone could. It might be different if you've got control over the extent of oxygen deprivation yourself, but with a guy choking you it seems just totally yucky and scary. Because you can't talk, you can't say when it's too much. I remember I was seriously thrashing around like a fish out of water before he got the message it was too much.

Then the arsehole had the cheek to reminisce about the fantastic sex he'd had with some ex girlfriend who did like it and knew "how to do it".
 
Not with BDSM but an ex tried to put me into bondage without my consent, and without warning. I broke free though and later made him my bitch sexually for half a year.
 
My ex talked me into trying the "erotic asphyxiation" thing once - I didn't like it at all, and at the risk of sounding "judgemental", I don't see how anyone could. It might be different if you've got control over the extent of oxygen deprivation yourself, but with a guy choking you it seems just totally yucky and scary. Because you can't talk, you can't say when it's too much. I remember I was seriously thrashing around like a fish out of water before he got the message it was too much.

I’m sorry you had such a shit experience. That sounds awful 😞

I think your feelings and reaction are normal and valid. As someone who enjoys it though I guess I’d point out obviously it’s best done with someone who knows what they’re doing, has had experience, you’ve talked about it, you trust each other and you have a way to tap out and know your boundaries will be respected. In a proper Dom/sub relationship that is meant to be the basis of the interaction. Being a sub actually holds a lot of power. You only give someone the power to do X otherwise you terminate it the experience, use a safeword etc. (in an ideal scenario, which as I said without the aforementioned trust and communication it doesn’t work and bad experiences happen such as the ones we both talked about before).
A proper Dom is trying to satisfy the needs of his sub just as much as the sub. Personally, I’m very over-controlled in my every day life and at work so while being a bratty sub means I can abandon all that stress, responsibility, overthinking etc. I know I’m still in control of the interaction.... And that’s what freeing- intentionally, purposefully, giving up that control is freeing in the right environment but it’s a paradox, you’re still in control.

Breath play can be literally fatal so it is important to do it right and with the right person. I know I’ve been choked wrong- you’re not meant to put pressure on the larynx just pressure on the arteries on either side of the neck. The intention isn’t to stop someone being able to breathe, it’s to reduce oxygen flow to the brain with pressure on those arteries. You should still be able to gasp air in, but still feel that heady feeling From hypoxia. I know when it’s done wrong to me I can go a week having to take Nurofen before every meal because it’s so painful to swallow- that’s an indication it wasn’t done right so I understand wanting to avoid it (that was the 24/7 Dom guy, wanted me to say I “belonged” to him but I refused so he tried that but I can be stubborn.... I don’t get off on passing out but if my choice is saying something I don’t mean just to please someone then choke me the eff out, I ain’t doin it).
Personally, I find even just a hand around the throat nice alone, squeezing is not even that necessary, just the “threat” of it. I can’t explain it, it’s just nice knowing someone *could* hurt you if they wanted to but they *won’t*. I find it oddly comforting being held down for example. But that’s when I know I can tap out and trust the person- obviously it’s different if you don’t first have that rapport built.

As for the other stuff... sorry this is getting graphic but I want to show that not everyone is the same- I like giving oral, I like facef***ing, gagging...like everyone has their own thing, I know guys super into giving oral and pleasing their partner themselves, but yeah it’s possible to actually enjoy that stuff (a lot of other stuff I’m not into but each to their own). Pleasing others pleases me- it’s actually selfish. I haven’t met a guy that doesn’t like it yet either (although some will have a preference for the sound of gagging or not) and a good blowjob really makes a difference to guys, especially when they’ve gone their whole life with women who don’t like it, won’t do it, and just generally give a weak one if at all. They deserve it!

Anyway yeah that’s my two cents- we’re all different and like different things. Definitely not trying to encourage anyone into something they don’t want to do.
 
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I’m sorry you had such a shit experience. That sounds awful 😞

I think your feelings and reaction are normal and valid. As someone who enjoys it though I guess I’d point out obviously it’s best done with someone who knows what they’re doing, has had experience, you’ve talked about it, you trust each other and you have a way to tap out and know your boundaries will be respected. In a proper Dom/sub relationship that is meant to be the basis of the interaction. Being a sub actually holds a lot of power. You only give someone the power to do X otherwise you terminate it the experience, use a safeword etc. (in an ideal scenario, which as I said without the aforementioned trust and communication it doesn’t work and bad experiences happen such as the ones we both talked about before).
A proper Dom is trying to satisfy the needs of his sub just as much as the sub. Personally, I’m very over-controlled in my every day life and at work so while being a bratty sub means I can abandon all that stress, responsibility, overthinking etc. I know I’m still in control of the interaction.... And that’s what freeing- intentionally, purposefully, giving up that control is freeing in the right environment but it’s a paradox, you’re still in control.

Breath play can be literally fatal so it is important to do it right and with the right person. I know I’ve been choked wrong- you’re not meant to put pressure on the larynx just pressure on the arteries on either side of the neck. The intention isn’t to stop someone being able to breathe, it’s to reduce oxygen flow to the brain with pressure on those arteries. You should still be able to gasp air in, but still feel that heady feeling From hypoxia. I know when it’s done wrong to me I can go a week having to take Nurofen before every meal because it’s so painful to swallow- that’s an indication it wasn’t done right so I understand wanting to avoid it (that was the 24/7 Dom guy, wanted me to say I “belonged” to him but I refused so he tried that but I can be stubborn.... I don’t get off on passing out but if my choice is saying something I don’t mean just to please someone then choke me the eff out, I ain’t doin it).
Personally, I find even just a hand around the throat nice alone, squeezing is not even that necessary, just the “threat” of it. I can’t explain it, it’s just nice knowing someone *could* hurt you if they wanted to but they *won’t*. I find it oddly comforting being held down for example. But that’s when I know I can tap out and trust the person- obviously it’s different if you don’t first have that rapport built.

As for the other stuff... sorry this is getting graphic but I want to show that not everyone is the same- I like giving oral, I like facef***ing, gagging...like everyone has their own thing, I know guys super into giving oral and pleasing their partner themselves, but yeah it’s possible to actually enjoy that stuff (a lot of other stuff I’m not into but each to their own). Pleasing others pleases me- it’s actually selfish. I haven’t met a guy that doesn’t like it yet either (although some will have a preference for the sound of gagging or not) and a good blowjob really makes a difference to guys, especially when they’ve gone their whole life with women who don’t like it, won’t do it, and just generally give a weak one if at all. They deserve it!

Anyway yeah that’s my two cents- we’re all different and like different things. Definitely not trying to encourage anyone into something they don’t want to do.
hey I might PM you in reply if that's cool ...what you say is very interesting and deserves a considered reply ...but maybe would prefer to reply privately ...
 
Hehe no worries 😘
Er, well I did PM you ... But just wanted to say some of my confidences might be a bit full-on ... just wanted to say if you find it a bit much I won't be in the least offended or anything if you don't wish to read whole thing ... And very happy to continue our interesting exchange on a less intimate and cerebral level ...it's really tough for me right now: feel like catharsis is essential if I'm to keep myself from going mad ...but who can I tell? I am persisting with counselling and group but it seems impossible to discuss the way I was manipulated under the guise of this "BDSM" thing ... Unlike many women who've had violent partners, I was not raped, not,literally, but oh dear, it certainly feels that way sometimes ... Anyway, enough! I just want to take care not to upset you, since you seem (like me) adventurous but also quite sensitive...an interesting but not always easy-to-manage combination IME!
 
Always happy to lend an ear to anyone who wants to vent, just might take me time to respond sometimes. :)
 
Sounds a bit Richard Ramirez..
Who me? Or did you mean my ex? Basically I was talking to my ex and he claimed he was 'doing work' on his computer but I could see how he was looking at porn so I laughed and said 'Be honest you were not working you were looking at porn...' I did not interrupt him masturbating but I went in to talk to him.

Then out of nowhere he became super angry and said he could restrain me easily. I thought he was joking and said, 'Yeah right you can't do that I would like to see you try...' The next thing I know he had a roll of duct tape out and put it around my legs. I started yelling at him to stop and he was trying to put duct tape on my wrists while his dog jumped on the bed and licked my face, but I broke free and ran away.
 
Who me? Or did you mean my ex? Basically I was talking to my ex and he claimed he was 'doing work' on his computer but I could see how he was looking at porn so I laughed and said 'Be honest you were not working you were looking at porn...' I did not interrupt him masturbating but I went in to talk to him.

Then out of nowhere he became super angry and said he could restrain me easily. I thought he was joking and said, 'Yeah right you can't do that I would like to see you try...' The next thing I know he had a roll of duct tape out and put it around my legs. I started yelling at him to stop and he was trying to put duct tape on my wrists while his dog jumped on the bed and licked my face, but I broke free and ran away.
Whoa. What a son of a prick!
So care to share how you "made him your bitch"? Sounds like an interesting tale...
Sorry about Ramirez comment, didn't mean to offend.
 
I'd love for a girl to dominate and have her fucking way with me but most that I meet don't quite seem the type for that sort of thing..
 
So true. But they exist. You know of Fetlife right? You could at least find a switch. 3somes with married couples, they usually switch. Just a suggestion haha
 
Kinda. It’s a website. Forum type thing. You can make a profile with your interests and check out other people. Looooots of nudes on there. Lots. And yeah all kinky.
 
Ok cool i'll check it out, thanks. If i may ask have you ever personally met up with anyone on there irl? You can PM me if you dont wanna answer in here - or just ignore me, I wont be mad :)
 
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