Anyone ever gotten into a fight while high on heroin?

[The Straight Dope]

Just yesterday I had the displeasure of experiencing such a thing. The dude I was fighting was pretty much sober. So I guess he took some things I said a bit too personally, and then he started charging at me. Let me tell you adrenaline and heroin don't make a good mix, so I don't think I got the "energy shot" that I would need to give me acute co-ordination and reflex abilities. I didn't cower and not fight back though, I punched him a couple times and was grappling him and trying to get him to the ground, but once I took a knee to the forehead I pretty much had to start telling him to stop . And that is how I lost the fight, I have a good feeling being high on heroin had a lot to do with it, as a substance it just makes me too calm and careless. The only positive effect of H was that I pretty much felt absolutely no pain from any of the blows, even the knee to the head. This could also be a negative though, maybe if i felt the pain I would've retaliated harder.

Well after the fight, the other dude starts getting all emotional and he starts crying and whatnot about how he thought me and him were best friends and how I stopped returning his calls and how his life is so hard and mine is so easy and I get more shit out of it blah blah blah. Basically this guy is pretty lacking in the social skills department and when he talks it gets pretty annoying, hence why I stopped returning his calls, and I only hung out with him a couple times cause I was really really bored and he had some shitty weed to smoke. Well basically this dude has the most annoying voice in the world, he talks like a wigger sometimes, his voice cracks, and most annoyingly he will cut off my sentences, and start tapping and touching me to force me to pay attention to shit he's saying that I absolutely don't give a shit about and he just doesn't seem to be able to take social ques. The fight pretty much started when I told him to stop interrupting my sentences and he got all emotional about it and took it really really personally. I remember one of his comments to me after the fight being something like "Oh let me guess you didn't wanna go to the street races with me cause you had "cool guy" shit to do". It just sucks he had a slight size advantage and caught me when I was half-nodding out and out of my element. And finally, yes I will continue to make fun of annoying people without any social power behind their backs, even if they are nice to me, I'll have to choose the people I tell such things better next time perhaps.

Oh yeah and at the end my body and limbs were all shaking ucontrollably from the mixture of neurochemicals in my brain.

 

[psynirvana01]

i dont do heroin..i do do oxy...i could imagine myself getting in a fight on oxy cuz i just dont give a damn and say shit that pisses other people off.. basically on oxy i just push peoples buttons and feel like if i ever was to get into a fight i'd kick their ass because of my already quasi-pissed off mood that opiates get me into, although on the inside i'm feeling GREAT. seriously though, i can be quite a dick on opiates, but if it came down to fighting i'd probably just be too lazy or something

 

[paranoid android]

Never gotten into a fight on heroin (as ive never tried it) but i did end almost end up in a fight with some big fat cunt while wacked outta my head on morphine.

When im high it usually takes someone to do something pretty stupid to piss me off much less fight em and go looking for it but this guy pushed my buttons. I called him on the fact that he was a fat stupid flabby bastard and he went for me and managed to get his hands on me quicker then i was expecting. That was probably the temazepam slowing me down.

Once i knew i was in for a fight though i got him loose grabbed ahold of him and threw him over his buddies car. The adrenaline kicked right in then. I was ready to stomp the shit outta the dumb bastard but either due to the drugs or the fact that ive gotten smarter and was looking foreward to sleeping in my bed that night instead of a cell i didnt. It was daylight and we where in a packed walmart parking lot if i had kicked the shit outta him there would have been atleast a few people on their cell phone to the cops and would have gotten sent down.

The guy was shook up and his friend who had much better since then him told him to get in the fucking car so that ended it. I was ready to stomp both of them and would have had i not have been high. So ya drugs arent all bad i guess .

 

[VerbalTruist]

I lost a piercing in a fight whilst smacked out. Dude walked up and yanked my eyebrow ring out for sleeping with his extremely average girlfriend.

However, I suppose the difference with us is that my adrenaline was not muddled and before I knew it I put him in the hospital...

Fucker deserved it though... ripping out a piercing while I'm gettin my scratch on, on a bench... disgraceful.

 

[xxkcxx]

I get irritated very easily when I'm high (you're killing my BUZZ, man!) so I instigate arguments with my family, but it's never come to blows (pun intended) or anything.

 

[InTherapy82]

Heroin never put me in a pissed off mood, ever. I was always so happy to be on it and not w/d'ing. Maybe people around me were pissed off by my clumsiness and lack of care of what's going on around me (my mom especially and at work for nodding off).

Morphine on the other hand made me want to fight all the time and I was picking fights w/ my husband about little shit about which I never would've care about sober.

But I've never been in a real fight like u mentioned so I can't relate to all the adrenaline stuff.

 

[The Straight Dope]

Never gotten into a fight on heroin (as ive never tried it) but i did end almost end up in a fight with some big fat cunt while wacked outta my head on morphine.

You must be a fairly decent sized guy to be able to throw a fat dude. I'm only about 6 feet and 145 pounds so I think it would be nice for me to have some more muscle mass on my structure. Fat people tend to be pretty slow too so you don't need that much agility when fighting them unless you're really skinny.

And yeah the fight happened 15-20 minutes after I took my shot so I was basically in a pretty decent nod, it sucked. And it totally had to do with me not giving a fuck and saying whatever cause I'm doped up, and I think this kid pretty much knows that he's a loser so he took it real bad and had his feelings hurt. Oh well, I'll actually admit to having lost a fight I don't care, I didn't even feel shitty after it happened cause dope makes you feel awesome no matter what, and it's not like it was serious where I broke something or had to get stitches, I just got a little bumpski on my forehead from the knee which is about 50% healed since yesterday. Pretty much my biggest reason for avoiding fights is because I already have 3 eyebrow scars and don't want anymore. I don't wanna have a face like a hockey player just to prove I'm tough or some shit.

 

[-Guido-]

Yeah, a few times. Feels good man.

 

[Pengwin]

My friend becomes a real dick when he's on h. Me? Shiiiit I dont want to even move, nothing bothers me when im doped up. The only time i've almost gotten into some shit was when i went to rescue my ex-gf from her abusive boyfriend and he wanted to fight. Even then i just let it slide cause i knew he was only mad cause i was gonna be fucking his girl in like 20 minutes. Really it was more of a ok this asshole just got in my face and i could just go off on him but then shes gonna freak out and it wouldnt be good to put her bf in coma in front of her and im all fucked up so if the cops come its over. though if i ever see him again just walking down the street its on

I love everyone when im doped up...

 

[paranoid android]

You must be a fairly decent sized guy to be able to throw a fat dude. I'm only about 6 feet and 145 pounds so I think it would be nice for me to have some more muscle mass on my structure. Fat people tend to be pretty slow too so you don't need that much agility when fighting them unless you're really skinny.

Haha im not big at all only about 5'8 and 170lbs but im still pretty strong after pumping iron for years and im pretty hard to knock down. Plus i grew up fighting so that helps . I threw him over the hood of the car i think by just spinning him around and running him at it. Fuck knows all i know is the fat cunt is down and im making a go at him.

Fatties are usually slow so you either have to be really high or drunk not to hit them first. Hence why the fat bastard got his hands on me cause i was wacked on temazepam+alot of morphine. The biggest shit kicking i actually got in my life was from a guy way smaller then me so ya size means nothing in a fight.

I don't know how people get so pissed off when high. Im the total opposite and will let things go that i wouldnt when im sober. Usually im just happy to be high and don't want some douche bag interfering with it so i ignore alot of shit.

 

[The Straight Dope]

^^^^^^

Well that's still a pretty decent size in my opinion, obviously you're bigger than I am, especially taking the height/weight ratio into mind. You also mentioned you lift weights and workout, something I haven't been doing much lately at all, I haven't been giving a shit about myself physically, obviously not a good thing, it might have to do with me being doped up all time too. As crazy as it sounds I remember I signed up for MMA lessons one time, just cause they had an offer going for a month's worth of lessons for free, I only went twice but it was awesome and probably the best workout ever, I was amazed at how sore my entire body got without me even touching any weights. I pretty much had to stop going just cause I didn't have the time cause I was always busy being out scoring dope in the evening after school when the MMA classes were going on. I definitely regret it cause it was a quality dojo and an expensive one too had I decided to pay for it, they even train you to fight in tournaments and stuff if you ever wanted to work your way up to that level. I would've probably been in much better shape if i stuck with it, and I was being told I have a good skeletal frame for that sort of thing.

I think size and strength definitely mater when it comes down to grappling, unless you have some crazy jiu jitsu skills. I like to think that I'm a pretty decent pugilist, and I'm definitely capable of blocking and parrying punches that come my way, even if I'm intoxicated. From what I hear the dude I fought told the dude whose house we fought at that he was trying to punch me in the face but it just wouldn't go through so he had to "start grappling and do it UFC style" which is how I ended up with a knee on the forehead.

Yeah, a few times. Feels good man.

Would you wanna tell us a story?

, but the one time it escalated into a full-blown I'm going for the throat fight the adrenaline did its job fine and the pk's prevented me from realizing I broke my hand on his kids head until many hours later. Crazy times

Sorry if this sounds dumb but what does "pk" stand for?

 

[saveyour]

Yeah, a few times. Feels good man.

i think i remember that story in der lounge haha you ended up gonig super sayan no?

 

[-Guido-]

Would you wanna tell us a story?

Sure.

I was at a bar a few years ago with my friends a few when I was high on dope 24/7. This girl started talking to me, I had no interest in her, but me being a gentleman, I entertained her with a conversation. This guy walks up to me and asks me what I am doing and I says to him I says talking to the young lady right here. He starts ranting and raving about how it is his girlfriend or some shit and I ask her if thats true and she says no. So I tell him to fuck off. The faggot keeps hounding me so I ask him if he wants to step outside. We end up behind the bar and he has about two of his friends. I tell my friends to stay inside. Now he starts screaming at me and shit, meanwhile I'm smoking a cigarette and nodding out which really makes him rage because I'm not taking things seriously. I tell him he is allowed to take the first shot. He punches me as hard as he can in the cheek. My head cocks to the side and I turn around to him and smile and say is that it? I guess its my turn now. The faggot ends up apologizing and everyone goes back inside. Heroin turns me into a superhuman I guess.

Then there was the time I was copping in Newburgh a while back. Some asshole I usually copped from on the block shorted me a few bags so I went back to get them. He told me to piss off and then started pushing me away. When I'm on dope I hate people putting their hands on me so I swung at him but the fucker ducked. He takes a swing at me and nails me hard in the ribs, my bad ribs mind you, but I don't feel it so I nail the fucker in the chin and then the side of his head and he goes down. His boys start running up from down the street so I pull out my rig as they are running up the hill and I spike my vein, all I do is load up the syringe with blood, and I start waving it at them, yelling that I will give them fucking AIDS. So they stop in there tracks. While that one guy is on the ground I reach into his pocket and grab the bags he owes me and then I make my way back to my car and get the fuck up out of there. On the ride home I was coughing up blood, choking from time to time but it did not hurt.

I fight great on heroin but its dangerous because you get injured and really don't realize the seriousness of it. That punch in my bad ribs could of killed me...

 

[paranoid android]

I think size and strength definitely mater when it comes down to grappling, unless you have some crazy jiu jitsu skills. I like to think that I'm a pretty decent pugilist, and I'm definitely capable of blocking and parrying punches that come my way, even if I'm intoxicated. From what I hear the dude I fought told the dude whose house we fought at that he was trying to punch me in the face but it just wouldn't go through so he had to "start grappling and do it UFC style" which is how I ended up with a knee on the forehead.

For grapling it matters yes but theres tricks to that to that you learn after awile. But street fighting usually doesent get down to grapling and forget about fighting fair. It's not MMA or boxing so use every dirty trick in the book. You shoulda just headbutted him a quick one or gave him a elbow to the jaw either will put just about anyone out cold.

Also ya i am bigger given my height and weight and i actually find it way easier fighting tall guys. I havent worked out much at all lately myself but i used to do it about 3 times a week for years on end. My neck is fucked up now so i don't do much of it at all.

And clubinguido i wouldnt go near anyone holding a syringe full of blood that's damn smart. Id have run so fast the other way my feet would be hitting my ass on the way up the road.

 

[the_ketaman]

It woulda sucked if they already had AIDS/HIV/HEPC or something like that and didnt give a fuck. It'd suck pretty bad getting infected with a BBV all from a stupid fight.

The only drug ive ever fought on except weed was LSD and it wasnt even a fight, I just got KO'd in my own house coz I was telling this dude to shut the fuck up coz I have neighbours, this guy was big mind you and I was about 15, I was in his face and he just wacked me twice, we have footage of it. We were friends for awhile after but I dont want to know any of those guys anymore, the one that hit me loves yelling out the window of his car "JUNKIE!!!" every time they drive past my house and for some dumb reason it does get to me and make me feel like shit.

I hate fighting, its shit.

 

['medicine cabinet']

Not on heroin, but on a high dose of oxy and a little dilaudid. Plus i had been drinking and taking kpins so i was fired up anyways and i got into a fight with this cocksucker who was hitting on my GF at the time and wouldn't get the hint. All I remember is standing and him coming at me and then being on top of him on the ground beating his face, at some point my boys pulled me off because i apparently fucked him up and shit was getting crazy, not to mention my gf at the time was freaking out. I dont like to fight at all, i actually try to fight, but that night it just happened. I felt bad about it the next day.

 

[McFly]

Haha im not big at all only about 5'8 and 170lbs but im still pretty strong after pumping iron for years and im pretty hard to knock down.

Same sort of build as me, almost exactly really, low centre of gravity and big thighs make it hard to get me down. I played a load of rugby from age 10, playing with the senior team when i was 15 meaning they were all alot bigger than me which kinda helps. I havent had a fight inyeras and years, i'd rather just leave it i kinda seemyself as an H Bomb, once its goes off youre fucked lol

Anyway ontopic, never had a fiught or wanted to on H but oxy could send me into the most foul aggressive moods if the slightest thing annoyed me.

 

[The Straight Dope]

The only drug ive ever fought on except weed was LSD and it wasnt even a fight, I just got KO'd in my own house coz I was telling this dude to shut the fuck up coz I have neighbours, this guy was big mind you and I was about 15, I was in his face and he just wacked me twice, we have footage of it.

Fighting on acid??? what a fucking nightmare, I can only imagine the type of bad vibes you'd be getting during all of that.

As for winning a fight and feeling bad about it, I definitely know the feeling. I remember in 8th grade ths kid started a fight with me but ended up with blood uncontrollably gushing out of his nose and I guess he was sort of an unpopular kid and for 2 weeks or so afterwards everyone in the halls and even some girls were complementing me and saying "good job" and "he totally deserved it" and whatnot but I still sort of felt bad. A more recent example was about 2 years ago when I was 19 I was plating in a band that I had started and the band pretty much saw its end when I gave the drummer a bloody lip, I'll even now say he did deserve it but I felt kinda bad. He was a straight edge piece of shit with no social skills and the low-life fucker stil has my nintendo DS. Fighting really does suck...

 

[psynirvana01]

Fighting on acid??? what a fucking nightmare, I can only imagine the type of bad vibes you'd be getting during all of that.

As for winning a fight and feeling bad about it, I definitely know the feeling. I remember in 8th grade ths kid started a fight with me but ended up with blood uncontrollably gushing out of his nose and I guess he was sort of an unpopular kid and for 2 weeks or so afterwards everyone in the halls and even some girls were complementing me and saying "good job" and "he totally deserved it" and whatnot but I still sort of felt bad. A more recent example was about 2 years ago when I was 19 I was plating in a band that I had started and the band pretty much saw its end when I gave the drummer a bloody lip, I'll even now say he did deserve it but I felt kinda bad. He was a straight edge piece of shit with no social skills and the low-life fucker stil has my nintendo DS. Fighting really does suck...

wow you must be really cool you continually tell stories of beating up unpopular, socially awkward kids... you must be super cool and popular..i wanna be like you

 

[psychedelic nod]

^^^^ rofl.

when im high i generally just love everyone and am in an excellent mood, but if something happens to piss me off, then shit just gets outta hand pretty quick. With my family it never gets all the way to physical fighting, but il like scream at them to leave me alone and shit cause im laying on the couch nodding off. I hate it though, kills the buzz and then it takes liek ten minutes for me to get back to where i was
so i generally try to avoid getting mad on dope, but it happens

i did once punch my dope dealer/best friend when we were both high in his car, we were joking around and i just took it too far, i felt AWFUL afterwards, like he was legit pissed and i kept apologizing, then i gave him a free bag and it was cool =]

im really not much of a belligerent person to being with though