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Anyone else hate their thought patterns and level of thought now that they're sober?

shroomster

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Hi,

I haven't been to bluelight in ages.

But here I am, sober. I abused meth (drug of choice), heroin, cocaineand xtc heavily for about a decade. Some years and months heavier than others, and I managed to get clean a few months here and there, and sometimes longer if I was incarcerated or in rehab. I currently have about 9 months. AA, NA, SMART, and rehab didn't work for me in the long run. Rehab, IMO, was critical, however, because there is no way I could have gone through 6 months of continuous sobriety without a controlled environment, as I was out of my goddamn mind. I relapsed a few months later, but that was the real game changer for me, and if you'd like, I'll explain that later, but that's not why I made this thread.

I've come to a level of acceptance with my mental condition. I suffer from constant magical thinking, a shitty learning disability I developed from methamphetamine. I accept that it's something I'll have to live with (you reap what you sew), but goddamn is it frustrating. I'm just not the same person I was before I used, and because of my use, I hit a wall with a level of thinking. I am seemingly incapable of critical thinking, and learning. I practice jiu jitsu, a hobby I picked up to help me stay clean (the only thing I found that works) and everyone is growing around me, and I still struggle with very fundamental elements of the sport. Up until I was 20 I was a sponge, but then I was introduced to that needle, and let me tell you friends, my brain has never been the same! I am also seemingly incapable of relating to my fellow man/women. I also hit a wall here. I've learned social skills and feel comfortable around people in certain environments, but again, I'll hit a wall I feel is impossible to overcome. I still spend 99 percent of time alone. I've gone 3 months without hanging with anyone with no feeling of loneliness or despair.

Ah shit, I'm rambling.

Can you relate?
 
I can relate shroomer <3. Succumbing to believing that you are what you will always be isn't going to help. The brain is able to repair itself beyond what you're able to believe so you will not always be this way.

After a very heavy stint with stimulants which lasted almost a year I felt the same as you. I could go on with examples but I am sure they are very similar to your situation.

A lot of it is in your head, it has become warned where you believe you are not the person you once were and will never be. <3 Just embrace who you are now and things will always get better with time.

<3
 
Hi,

I haven't been to bluelight in ages.

But here I am, sober. I abused meth (drug of choice), heroin, cocaineand xtc heavily for about a decade. Some years and months heavier than others, and I managed to get clean a few months here and there, and sometimes longer if I was incarcerated or in rehab. I currently have about 9 months. AA, NA, SMART, and rehab didn't work for me in the long run. Rehab, IMO, was critical, however, because there is no way I could have gone through 6 months of continuous sobriety without a controlled environment, as I was out of my goddamn mind. I relapsed a few months later, but that was the real game changer for me, and if you'd like, I'll explain that later, but that's not why I made this thread.

I've come to a level of acceptance with my mental condition. I suffer from constant magical thinking, a shitty learning disability I developed from methamphetamine. I accept that it's something I'll have to live with (you reap what you sew), but goddamn is it frustrating. I'm just not the same person I was before I used, and because of my use, I hit a wall with a level of thinking. I am seemingly incapable of critical thinking, and learning. I practice jiu jitsu, a hobby I picked up to help me stay clean (the only thing I found that works) and everyone is growing around me, and I still struggle with very fundamental elements of the sport. Up until I was 20 I was a sponge, but then I was introduced to that needle, and let me tell you friends, my brain has never been the same! I am also seemingly incapable of relating to my fellow man/women. I also hit a wall here. I've learned social skills and feel comfortable around people in certain environments, but again, I'll hit a wall I feel is impossible to overcome. I still spend 99 percent of time alone. I've gone 3 months without hanging with anyone with no feeling of loneliness or despair.

Ah shit, I'm rambling.

Can you relate?

Hello shroomster

I can relate although I've not done meth --lots of normal speed though, mdma (which I'm on now, plus some speed). I went through a phase when I left my home town to live in London and I had a good job (but one I didn't like) and hit the speed, acid, dope--I mean MJ-- and e, hard. Drinking a lot too. And I enjoyed it! But after a while I became very withdrawn and couldn't relate to other people at all, which is not me, I'm quite outgoing most of the time. I felt lonely and on my own, and although I hated to it admit it, I was using drugs to try not to feel this.

I didn't like that feeling, I didn't feel I was being me, the drugs were changing me, and I left my job and laid off drugs altogether for about a year.

My problem was that the situation I was in was the wrong one. I now live in my home town again and after a long, long time---several years, I can now enjoy the drugs again, because if I want to be, I can choose to spend time with people I like and can relate to (even if they piss me off and I piss them off sometimes). And I don't do even half of what I used to.

In your post you said you've started to recover your ability to be around people and to learn social skills. That's what I had to do and in my case anyway it took ages, and didn't happen all at once. Nor am I saying I'm now at this fabulous level where I can swan around being super confident and completely socially adept. I've never been like that even before I started taking drugs and I actually don't think anyone is--it's all appearances. But definitely you can learn that again. I liked being able to gradually just get myself involved in social situations I liked being in rather than ones I drifted into. I also now have the ability to say "Thanks it's been great, goodnight," which sounds a small thing but I always felt I would give offence if I left early.

So anyway, I'm rambling now too but just to give you a little virtual encouragement and wish you well.
 
Being sober means my wallet is much fuller, my liver loves me and my brain thanks me by never shutting up.

It's good. I prefer it this way. The concept of not shitting yourself due to an upcoming drug test work/insurance/sport etc. is reassuring... not having to act half with it around family/work/other people....

There's only good things being sober, it seems agonizing but your body thanks you in the long run.
 
I am incredibly cerebral, with racing thoughts, constant self-analysis. Basically, there is no peace, ever, inside my head. Unfortunately, no matter what is achieved, it will never be good enough. Benzos, or speed sorts it out. I refuse to become addicted to either, as the effects would be short-lived.

Also makes me quite high-maintenance. This is certainly a challenge I've struggled to overcome.

Some of us aren't so great at being sober due to these things. However, that doesn't mean the journey should not be attempted.
 
I quite agree. I think it's just some sort of anxiety disorder that needs to be sorted.
 
I'm still a heavy shroomer when there in season bro, it's just my choice and I like the results. But I don't spend on them, though there is a risk I take willingly. As far as you rambling, I thought your post was lucid and to the point. Whether your situation is that difficult, keep looking inward and asking questions of yourself and on BL, it may not be as bad as you think. Good results can come.
 
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