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Anyone else had a codeine addiction?

No you didn't.

Not much I can say beyond to take the piss as your addiction is codeine is just plain twatish. Ignore it, you tried to help, and if he was to take it then so be it. Its Easy to be a keyboard warrior.
 
Pretty sure codeine is not the weakest opiate. Surely summat like loperamide would be lower down the scale. That stuff doesn't even cross the Blood Brain Barrier unless you take about a hundred times the recommended dose. There are OD posters who have been addicted to that too. They got some shit initially (:D) but once people researched it properly and more people came forward who had had the exact same problem it started to be taken seriously. There's a megathread about it in OD now.

Oh, I'd best point out that the (:D) is not cos I'm mocking but cos loperamide is an anti-diarrhea medication. Puns and poor quality gags ftw <3
 
Evey just ignore them! I think your doing a fab job! :-) & you have helped me loads people like that just put people down because they are weak. Having a bad night here sick of the rls its really getting to me now. I was really close to just giving up but i took a breather ran a bubble bath and relaxed im now lying in bed with a hot water bottle and a Glass of rose wine (only the one though i know it will make my rls worse in large amounts) i feel a little more relaxed now. Just glad i didnt slip! Day 8 offically now. Jade xxx
 
Congrats to those who've cleeaned up :)

Codeine addiction might not be the most brutal in terms of length of withdrawals, but one part that is terribly difficult (well, depending what country youre in) - is how everyday, wherever you go.. there's always a pharmacy right there, waiting for that moment of "i cant cope".

Im going to try again.. but the story of my life has always been "ill do it tomorrow"
 
Aye, we can only reassure you so many times.

I have messaged you, and you know I back you.

My suggestion would be to stay in eadd, and just relax. You are setting your self up for trolling as well. People see you get annoyed and all they will do is continue to bait you.

Don't take the bait. Steer clear of idiots just ignore them if they make a cuntish comment.
 
Yeah but look on the bright side, your insides aren't mashed up from injecting and smoking pure shite all day long. You need to learn to not care what people think especially on the net of all places.
 
jadehick92 said:
Evey just ignore them! I think your doing a fab job! :-) & you have helped me loads people like that just put people down because they are weak. Having a bad night here sick of the rls its really getting to me now. I was really close to just giving up but i took a breather ran a bubble bath and relaxed im now lying in bed with a hot water bottle and a Glass of rose wine (only the one though i know it will make my rls worse in large amounts) i feel a little more relaxed now. Just glad i didnt slip! Day 8 offically now. Jade xxx
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Well done on not slipping - that's ace news! And bubble bath n wine sounds nice. Sorry to hear that you're still having problems with the restless legs. Do you eat a banana before bed? Maybe try that. Have you looked at foods with B vitamins like shambles suggested? Think I asked that before but I can't remember your sorry.
 
Hi evey. Im eating well and taking all vitamins including vitamin b! There not so bad now still struggling though. Day 9 now though im getting there. A couple of weeks and the rls should be gone. Thanks for the support. X
 
Hey guys. .
I stayed my taper. Although today I dropped from 640 to 320 so to half as I had no access. For the chills a bit. Should I just stay on this tomorrow? Might as well. I might even jump off but I need to get all my needs first. What a mission.

I was prescribed xanax and my antidepressants last time but I think this town all talk to each other and I really stick out.

Should I just see how I go. .. Get all the meds like lope and the benzose, Vitimins etc and then start my ct. If it's too much and I can't work maybe go back to the taper or is this a bad idea?

The worst part is having a reputation in a small town. . Fairly humiliating.

Anyway got some missions ahead.
 
Hmm just a little update. .. getting worse and worse here. I suppose the half dose isn't good enough but anyway.

If I go see a doctor, ask for valium and my meds.. Then tell them im addicted to codeine also prob a bad idea yeah? Ah man. . Would olit be wise to go and buy some Imodium in the morning and see how it goes out is this the wrong way?
 
Only, i was addicted to codeine and decided to do a taper i tappered over 2 month and eventually got down to 30mg per day then i just jumped off. The withdrawal wasnt half as bad as it was going ct from a high does. I had symptoms but i could cope with them. The only bad thing was the rls i still have It and im on day 10 now. From day one of my taper i took multi vitamins, magnesium and iron. I always have a few diazepam when things got bad (only when i went ct not during taper). i suggest doing a tapper especially if you work. I work and could not Take any time off. However it takes alot to tapper and you have to have a lot of willpower. Its very hard to stick to the limit. Good luck. Jade xxx
 
only said:
Hmm just a little update. .. getting worse and worse here. I suppose the half dose isn't good enough but anyway.

If I go see a doctor, ask for valium and my meds.. Then tell them im addicted to codeine also prob a bad idea yeah? Ah man. . Would olit be wise to go and buy some Imodium in the morning and see how it goes out is this the wrong way?
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Hiya,

Welcome to the thread. No one can tell you the best way: weather to taper or cold turkey - only you can decide that. However, I would suggest that if you are taper you make less jump than by half. Or you may as well just cold turkey if you're going to do that. Does your doctor know because if so, they will be able to put you on a taper. If you would rather it over n wish to go cold turkey I would suggest that you stay on your current dose for a few days until you have your meds, vitamins , banans, tonic water that sort of thing n then set a date to begin. Come here for support n we'll support you through it.

If you're feeling chils n / aches I suggest that you have a warm bath they really hope.

Good luck.
Evey :) xxxx
 
OP - It's horrible how people have been minimizing your addiction. I started on DHC and codeine and built up a massive habit on it. I think people should support you for going on suboxone to treat your addiction.
TBH it's been my experience that the only difference between the so-called 'weak' opiates and the 'strong' opiates is potency by weight and dosage. The only changes that occurred when I switched from 'weak' opiates (DHC, codeine, poppy seed/pods etc) to 'strong' opiates (morphine, homebake-heroin, oxycodone) was that:

1. Instead of taking 1-2 grams of DHC, I took 1-2 hundred milligrams of morphine or 100mgs of homebake heroin (and I began using intravenously regularly). Basically, I just had to take less (in terms of mgs/dose)
2. I gained the respect of the 'Hardcore' opiate users

But in reality most of the 'legwork' (building of tolerance) of my addiction was done by the 'weak' opioids.

Good luck with your Suboxone treatment OP I hope it helps you as much as it has me. You have just as much right and reason to be on suboxone as anyone else.

Lots of Love x
 
Thanks Monkey. That was very kind n means a lot to me. It's lovely to receive such a supporting message. I want others to get help n that's the main thing. In the UK a lot of codeine addicts are getting treated with suboxone (not trying to push it people much do what's right for them) if they have tried numerous amount of times but not succeeded n it's especially for OTC codeine which contains paracetamol or iboprofen which can cause liver or kidney damage/failure so it's a form of harm reduction.

I was not ready to come off codeine but was being forced off it, had no more access to the online pharmacies where I got 60 mg pure codeine tabs so would buy a few boxes of nurofin plus n have them all in a day n start again the next day.

Thank you n please take care of yourself. Jade that was a lovely response to only. How are you feeling?
My doctor tried once to taper me from 700mg to 60mg a day. Madness!

Evey xxxx
 
Eveleivibe said:
In the UK a lot of codeine addicts are getting treated with suboxone
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Please don't take this the wrong way but do you have any figures or anything else to support that? It's just that I've been in and around opiates/opioids and the assorted medical responses to them my whole adult life (20 years since I first spoke to my GP about it) and have never seen or heard anything like that. Quite the opposite. I'm not for one moment trying to diminish or belittle your struggle with addiction - nor anybody else's - cos I know addiction and it doesn't care what you're addicted to as long as you are addicted. It's just that using bupe to deal with a codeine addiction really is using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. It seems to me that yourself and your friend are actually the exceptions not the rule and I wouldn't really want people to get the idea that this is standard practice when it's not - and it isn't as far as I can tell and I suspect I would have heard of at least one other person over the years I've been in treatment. I haven't though and nobody else seems to either which is probably why you've gotten some grief over in the Suboxone forum - it's just that it really does seem like a very strange decision purely as there seems to be no precedent for it.

Once again. I am not saying anything about your addiction and the troubles it has caused you. Addiction is addiction and each case needs to be taken on its own merits - one size does not fit all. But it would be nice if you could point me (and any others with an interest) in the direction of something to back up the claim that Suboxone is being used to treat "a lot of codeine addicts" rather than just a handful of exceptional cases. My main concern would be that perhaps a lurker with a codeine problem doesn't want to go to their doctor so buys themselves some Suboxone off the net and ODs as there is such a vast difference in potency. You seem to be getting on well with it and if it's helping you that's great, but bupe is a strong opioid and I don't think people should get the idea that it is standard practice to use it for codeine aedictions.
 
I just jumped off. It's too hard to get codeine now and I just want to get it over with. I stocked up on lots of things, vitimns, juice, benzoze, anti inflam, lope immodium. Done my first 24 hours. It wasn't hell. The rls is kicking in now so see how we go.

I'm well prepared. Thanks for support :)
 
Well done only - it may not be hell for you n I hope that that is the case. We are here to support you through it.

Shambles No Idon't but I'm sure you'd be here sooner or later to try n belittle me, Shambles. I know a forum of where quite a few people were on suboxone after codeine or DHC. Why do you always come along and try to make people feel small? I've had enough of that another member who shall remain name. Also you made out YOURSELF you were on suboxone after codeine. You put that yourself without editing so kindly don't go on at me about figures to make me look an idiot. I've not had time with having to complete a 4,000 world assignment on childhood obesity.

I personally would rather see codeine addicts on suboxone than getting liver failure with paracetamol or kidney failure from iboprofen. I will not name the forum where codeine addicts are given suboxone as I think it's agains the rules to do so but if it's ok with moderators I'll give the name in PM if people wish to know.
 
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