Heroin Anyone else get really lovey-dovey after doing dope? Almost MDMA-like...

[Titus]

opiates love me up quite a bit. i get really cuddly and sociable, i think it gears up my oxytocin system or something.

quitting them, and then losing occasional kratom use after that was banned, has been hard on my relationship...

opiates are literally a medicine for me (social phobia, adhd, insomnia, irritable bowel, aspergers and functioning normally socially; all of these are treated in ways no other medicine does/can).

fuck the healthcare system and their participation with the justice department and law enforcement in justifying prohibition and alienation. "tightening the lid on pain pills" is going to have more consequences in this country than we realize.

Kratom was banned? I remember researching the 1-3 active chems in that and was gonna buy a few KG's and store them long term. I was remembering how MDMA was legal while I was in high school... another f up on my part.... dammmnn

 

[EveryStar]

I'm droolin bro. Sounds amazing. How many are you cooking for?

I let my GF make BBQ burgers tonight. Was awesome

Well I was really just cooking for me, I had barely eaten the whole day, but it could feed two people nicely. :D

Haha we are totally going off-topic but whatevs, I am doped up as fuck...I've done it 4 or 5 times this last week, not in a row though, like Wednesday or something (maybe it was Thursday, I dunno anymore...) I smoked a quarter gram (keep in mind a quarter gram here in Portugal is one bag...you know, the regular price for a bag...purity isn't the best but it's a great fucking deal) off the foil between a buddy of mine and me, after nearly a month's abstinence, I was high pretty much the rest of the day (so from 3-4pm until midnight or so). Then I skipped a day, bought another quarter, tried smoking it and failed miserably (I have close to no experience chasing the dragon, only IV, nearly every time I've smoked I've had someone else do it for me), so I bought another quarter and shot it...high as fuck all day. Then skipped another day, and did it yesterday, when I posted this thread.

Didn't sleep all night (and still haven't, since 3pm yesterday, it's 4:30pm now), and went to the spot to score around 11am... I was expecting to get half as high since as you all know, previous addicts develop a tolerance much quicker and get WDs at a much faster rate than those who've never been hooked... Well the thing is, the spot I tend to go to, a 5-minute walk from my house has much better gear in the morning, (from 7am to noon more or less) than in the afternoon/night.

I usually go in the afternoon but today I decided fuck it and right as class ended on my way home I started cooking up the idea of going there...just a little detour on my walk home. Got home, expected to get nicely buzzed but nothing special. It fucking floored me, the difference in quality between the morning shift guys and the afternoon/evening/night guys is ridiculous. I shot the same amount (well, just a little more, since yesterday I had taken 40mg of diazepam and drank a liter of beer an hour or two beforehand...so I put a little on the foil to test it out just to make sure I wouldn't turn purple doing the whole bag in one shot), and I got ridiculously fucked up, I couldn't walk straight for a good 3 hours, just stumbling around bumping against the walls and such just trying to make my way from the living room to the kitchen. Couldn't keep my eyes open. Now it's been a good 5 hours since I shot up and I can barely keep my eyes open...itchy all over...tonight is going to be a good night once again. :D

Ah, it's almost like if I was back 4-5 years ago when I first started shooting dope, except I'm getting even higher, fuckkkkk. Now I just gotta manage to not fall into the addiction cycle again, then again I've managed to chip this way for the last 8-9 months or so, I know my limits pretty well these days.

Oh, and bro, I can teach you a couple of really tasty Portuguese recipes too if you want man, real easy to make too! Like "feijoada" which is really, really fucking good, google it, typical Portuguese dish, super, super tasty! Cooking is awesome! %)

(woah, I just noticed I rambled on for a little while, must be the dope hehe, almost reminds me of the 10-page nonsensical ramblings that would go off on a billion different tangents when I would post here back in my heavy IV coke/crack-smoking days...fuck that shit though, coke sucks )

 

[THC2LSD]

Opiates can make someone more talkative, but I find it makes a lot of people more irritable, self-centered, short tempered, and less empathetic.

 

[EveryStar]

opiates love me up quite a bit. i get really cuddly and sociable, i think it gears up my oxytocin system or something.

quitting them, and then losing occasional kratom use after that was banned, has been hard on my relationship...

opiates are literally a medicine for me (social phobia, adhd, insomnia, irritable bowel, aspergers and functioning normally socially; all of these are treated in ways no other medicine does/can).

fuck the healthcare system and their participation with the justice department and law enforcement in justifying prohibition and alienation. "tightening the lid on pain pills" is going to have more consequences in this country than we realize.

I agree with you, for me as well opiates seem like the perfect medicine...they make me outgoing, talkative, sociable, put me in a good mood and generally fill me with good, positive vibes in a that no other drugs can (and yet still be functional...benzos also work, but to a lesser extent, and only in moderate doses with little to no tolerance).

Too bad (but in a way it's also good...people like us must learn to deal with life on its own terms without needing chemical assistance 24/7) they can only be used sparingly due to their ridiculously addictive potential. I can go to a party or any sort of gathering a few hours after a shot of dope, not even have a drink all night (just water, 'cause that shit makes you fucking thirsty!) and be the life of the party haha, and leave them all dumbfounded as to how I'm so outgoing and sociable without even having a sip of alcohol all night (as a matter of fact I try to stay as far as possible from any kind of alcoholic drinks after doing heroin, it just tends to make me sick and makes me go from having a good time to spending the night hunched over the toilet bowl puking my guts out and feeling ill...).

As for the healthcare system, well, fortunately I live in a country with pretty liberal drug laws (Portugal) and cheap healthcare, but the only pharmaceutical opiates readily available are tramadol and codeine...not really worth it. So the only opiate to turn to is heroin, but hey, at least it's fucking everywhere, and much, much cheaper to buy a gram of dope here than to buy a couple of Oxy 80s back Stateside... We can't talk prices here, but let's just say it's almost as cheap to the gram as a gram of good, dank bud in the States.

If any of you guys are interested in seeing what it's like over here, check out this video:

Europe's Drug Bazaar - Portugal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEDZXuRcGig

It talks about Casal Ventoso (literally "Windy Couple"), a neighborhood which used to be Europe's biggest drug supermarket right up until it was demolished around 10 years ago. It may have been demolished, but business still goes on there as usual, just a little further up the road, just not as big and bad as it used to be (I wasn't living around back then, though, but many of the old-school junkies who are from that time have told me about the "good old times" lol). Demolishing the barracks didn't help the drug situation much though, just kind of cleaned up the area's reputation a tad, but mostly, caused all the dealing to start spreading all over the city instead of being mostly concentrated in just one spot. 8)

 

[felixthecat23]

Yep, this happens to me every time!

 

[mareseatoats]

If only to have one of those lovey-dovey dope days back...just to relive one of them one more time. So sad-was when I was with the only love of my life. Haven't seen a day like then since. Sure I never will again either. Woe Is me.

 

[EveryStar]

Yeah, I can relate with Titus who posted above. I'm supposedly in "recovery" after spending a year in treatment, I've been out since last August and still go there monthly to talk to my therapist and to piss in the cup. So far so good, I've managed to chip once in a while, just take 3-4 days out of the month and spend maybe 30-40 euros over those days, and have a fun few days, then stop.

But I know chipping is playing with fire, I managed to do it back then, when I was younger and just experimenting around with it...I only turned into a full-blown addict once I managed to have full access to it anytime I wanted (back in Houston scoring dope was tough...coke and pills and such is the thing over there, for dope you have to be "in the circle" and it's a tight circle, that one...), and had money. These days I'm more conscious of my limits. Here in Lisbon drugs are literally everywhere, at any time of day I'm only 5 to 30 minutes away from scoring a bag. I have plenty of money in my bank account too (well, for a college kid, subjectively speaking, I have more than I almost ever had back then), but I don't want to end up back like before, weighing 45kgs, pale as fuck and just basically a wreck...a shell of my former self.

I've also played around with the blow here, the street stuff sucks, and if you want good powder, you need a private connect and it's expensive (we're talking No prices , which amounts to No prices...fuck that). The crack here sucks as well, still haven't come across those hard yellowish rocks I'd get back Statewise, the kind that *snaps* when you try to break off a piece...here the "crack" is this chunky powdery kind of stuff, and they smoke it differently here, out of those water bottles with foil and ash and shit...seems pretty ineffective to me. Back Stateside a ten dollar rock would give me 3-4 good almost bellringing hits, each hit keeping me high for 30+ minutes... Here a 10 dollar bag gets you an okay, 10-20 minute fiendish high, basically just one hit... Plus that water bottle contraption they use to smoke it seems terribly ineffective to me, it just burns the shit all right up instead of slowly vaporizing it, an art which I mastered back when I was smoking the rocks with a straight shooter. %)

So I guess in a way it's good I haven't come across the real good stuff because that shit just wrecked my life, but on the other hand I kind of miss it too... Anyways, I'm feeling pretty chatty, shot some dope about 6 hours ago or so, cuddled and made out with my roommate and just talked for a bit, now she's sleeping, it's 5 in the morning and I have class at 8h30, so I guess I'm pulling an all-nighter... I even popped 30mg of midazolam (sublingually) and drank some wine, but it's just making the high better instead of knocking me out like it should... I really gotta lay off the benzos for a while!

 

[80mg]

Dude no offence but if your a seasoned drug user its odd to see this question...you dont remember when you FIRST got high man? Why you STARTED getting high to begin with? Your brain is producing seritonin again which means the excess seretonin your pumping in is making you HAPPY.

 

[helium-4]

Opioids are great in this respect while allowing myself to remain relatively inactive sexually my current hiatus. I can feel all nice and lovey dovey, but not have to bother with the wailing of someone elses problems, worry about finding myself in a random argument, etc. It feels like I've had a pretty young lady wax my nob with no memory of the experience but a resulting orgasm lasting however long my current opioid of choice may last. Some might say, well, sucks about not actually getting the hand job. Honestly on opioids I really can sometimes prefer not to have my junk fucked with unless you're gonna give them a good scratch. This is a fantastic thing when you're sexually frustrated, but I do know of those individuals who have to sadly put up with this side-effect (it actually becoming what I'd imagine a distressing side-effect, especially if she doesn't like you doing opioids. Big tell. Just like if my dick is 3/4 the normal size and my balls becoming ovaries, generally one could assume this boy's been getting into the amphetamines.

I have enjoyed cuddling/flirting on opioids when I was getting actions. I wasn't using daily back then though, I was using A LOT less (3 times a month on avg I'd guess), so it wasn't a big deal and I could take advantage of the lovey dovey feelings with out worrying about a opioid dick.

opiates are literally a medicine for me (social phobia, adhd, insomnia, irritable bowel (not DX as IB but i have GI issues/pain), aspergers and functioning normally socially; all of these are treated in ways no other medicine does/can).
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I understand this. They are the only class of drugs that makes me feel normal. Ketamine post use (low dose regime) can also help with most of these, but opioids take them all. I like to think the nmda-antagonism for methadone helps me out in areas ketamine has some strength in therapeutically.

 

[EveryStar]

Dude no offence but if your a seasoned drug user its odd to see this question...you dont remember when you FIRST got high man? Why you STARTED getting high to begin with? Your brain is producing seritonin again which means the excess seretonin your pumping in is making you HAPPY.

I have quite some years of experience under my belt, but the last time I had shot heroin, up until a few months ago, was in February 2010, when I went into MMT. Yeah, I remember my first IV heroin highs (and opiates in general) back in the days were pretty good and noddy and stuff...but that "loved-up" feeling wasn't so pronounced. I was mostly just focused on the nod. These days I appreciate the talkativeness and socializing and "lovey-dovey" feelings more, aspects of the high which I didn't give much importance to before... I just wanted to push off, put the cap back on the needle, light up a cig and close my eyes... I guess times change.

Also I'm at a phase in my life where simply just sitting around on the couch for 6 fucking hours nodding the fuck out and scratching myself and doing nothing but smoke cigarettes and listen to music just isn't doable anymore...or at least not on a regular basis. I have more responsibilities now, more things to take care of and to occupy my time, and not to mention I live with a roommate, and she would not be very happy to find out I'm shooting up again...