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Anyone dropped out of life?

Madness said:
I have not even a percentage of experience in the different roles this country has to offer. And frankly I am not even sure what I excel at.

I have some "skills" and I have started having a better understanding of some preferences and tendencies, but I'll be damned if I don't make my next move intentional. And the amount of stress from feeling my personality was being sucked out at work taught me that I will never let that happen to me again.
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I had (have?) the same problem but at some point just had to pick something to move forward. ended up putting together a list of all the fields that interested me and then zeroed in on the one with the most jobs available.

The more jobs available, the easier it is to switch employers if the environment at current job is hell.

That's also why I don't fully buy into the small city ideal. Maybe life seems more idyllic but lack of opportunities also makes life suck.
 
The alure of making everything easy is always there.

Being single
Easy job no stress or no job
Minimalistic

Just as little stress as posisble.

I know when you are young you should get out of comfort zone all that blah blah
But as you get older fuck peace becomes more and more important,

Certain jobs, relationships etc etc it's all stress.
 
garygroundwork said:
The alure of making everything easy is always there.

Being single
Easy job no stress or no job
Minimalistic

Just as little stress as posisble.

I know when you are young you should get out of comfort zone all that blah blah
But as you get older fuck peace becomes more and more important,

Certain jobs, relationships etc etc it's all stress.
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I hate my life when I'm stressed, feels like I regress. I eat worse, sleep worse, slack on exercise, even come to dread interactions. It's miserable. It's like being sick, so my natural impulse is to want to get out of that state.

Commitments like relationships and jobs come with an opportunity cost. Time devoted to those is time that can't be spent elsewhere. Time spent elsewhere could be more rewarding, depending on how it's spent.

The lifestyle can be a lure/temptation to atrophy, but it can also be a transformative experience.
 
I know I already answered to this thread.
Though I'm not sure what.

But right here and now I really feel like dropping out of half of what's my life. I have a job others would probably love to have, and it's interesting sometimes, but most days it simply sucks. I can't deal with it. And I have so much internal work to do: getting rid of harmful thought patterns and processing bad experiences, and decide where to go from here.

I really wish I could drop out of life.
Now I took a week off, buy I think it's not going to be enough.
 
lecroute said:
But right here and now I really feel like dropping out of half of what's my life. I have a job others would probably love to have, and it's interesting sometimes, but most days it simply sucks. I can't deal with it. And I have so much internal work to do: getting rid of harmful thought patterns and processing bad experiences, and decide where to go from here.
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Have you explored how much of that is actually your own burden and how much of it is simply tied up in just existing this is holding pattern we call culture (society)?

I believe the majority of what we take to be our own is actually the garbage culture hooks into our minds, to keep us on the treadmill. I say that because I have had experiences where I have gotten completely away from all of it, somehow, and what's left is 'me'.. and I am just fine! We're like beautiful tropical fish, but we're stuck inside a grotty, stagnant, and enclosed fish tank.. we aren't supposed to be living this way, and that is what is making us ill.
 
-=SS=- said:
Have you explored how much of that is actually your own burden and how much of it is simply tied up in just existing this is holding pattern we call culture (society)?

I believe the majority of what we take to be our own is actually the garbage culture hooks into our minds, to keep us on the treadmill. I say that because I have had experiences where I have gotten completely away from all of it, somehow, and what's left is 'me'.. and I am just fine! We're like beautiful tropical fish, but we're stuck inside a grotty, stagnant, and enclosed fish tank.. we aren't supposed to be living this way, and that is what is making us ill.
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I think it also depends on where we live and how much we make versus our financial responsibilities
 
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I believe the majority of what we take to be our own is actually the garbage culture hooks into our minds, to keep us on the treadmill. I say that because I have had experiences where I have gotten completely away from all of it, somehow, and what's left is 'me'.. and I am just fine! We're like beautiful tropical fish, but we're stuck inside a grotty, stagnant, and enclosed fish tank.. we aren't supposed to be living this way, and that is what is making us ill.
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I agree.
And I never have been much into the society thing. I was free to be me, and live my life my own way. But then something happened a few years back that got me entangled in the net and all I want to do is get out of it again. But it's not something I can do from one day to another just so.

That's why I say I need time.
To reinvent myself. Or maybe it's just about finding he new, actual me. And decide where to go from here, and who to be.
Something I used to do constantly, until I couldn't.
 
Jnowhere said:
I think it also depends on where we live and how much we make versus our financial responsibilities
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The financial responsibilities... Unless you have people who really are dependent on you (underage kids and really elderly parents) it's all up to you. Because if it's a burden, you don't need a car, a house, a partner, furniture, fancy clothes...
 
Dropping out of life is not as much fun as you might think, unless you have an 8 figure net worth, I do not.
 
I dropped out of life with what would be minimum wage.
But then, I don't need much (no car, no furniture, no fancy clothes, no house and most importantly: no dependant people)
It was a good time.
And I want to go back to that.
But there's some issues that need to be taken care of first.
 
Exactly. But dogs are quite capable.of taking care of themselves if they have to. At least mine are.
 
I spent a decade or so (from age 17) pretty much homeless by design. Absolutely disgusted and overwhelmed by the human condition in the late 20th century planet-earth show, I did not really participate in society for quite some time

Lived in a succession of busses, tipi's, squats etc - lots of travelling, partying, activism, busking, making some cash to get by however we could, bartering, skills exchange and so on.

It sort of came to an end for me mainly because I'm just not a practically skilled person so just did not have to necessary tools to sustain that lifestyle or meaningfully contribute to any communal attempt to do so. That, and getting older when roughing-it is much tougher. And also having kids, and being broke with no family support. I got dragged into a more 'normal' way of life but still exist on the margins of the 'straight' society really.

I do know a fair few people however who have made huge success out of 'dropping out' and have lived freely for decades (they put a LOT of work into it though, and sacrifice). They didn't really drop out though and usually have little regret for 'missing out' - it's more like they dropped in to something else
 
lecroute said:
I agree.
And I never have been much into the society thing. I was free to be me, and live my life my own way. But then something happened a few years back that got me entangled in the net and all I want to do is get out of it again. But it's not something I can do from one day to another just so.

That's why I say I need time.
To reinvent myself. Or maybe it's just about finding he new, actual me. And decide where to go from here, and who to be.
Something I used to do constantly, until I couldn't.
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It's frustrating how much time, energy, and money it takes just to untangle yourself from the traps - I hope you didn't get someone pregnant.. somehow managed to dodge that one myself :roll eyes:.

When I hear stories about how 60 years ago you could just rock up to pretty much any business and get a job, find a room to rent without having to compete against 100 other people and corporate behemoths looking to snatch it up and suck the market dry, etc... It fucking boils my piss. Now they want to remove gas vehicles (UK) by 2030, so there goes the idea of living in a van too.

The lack of flexibility in our system, and the knowledge that if you stop treading water you may never recover that lapse. It's bullshit.
 
Jnowhere said:
They feed and buy dog food to themselves? They take themselves out side you piss and shit?
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They have a yard/the big outdoors. And they know hkw to hunt and scavenge and are pretty good at finding water sources. Or digging holes to help them keep warm of cool, depending on the situation.

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The lack of flexibility in our system, and the knowledge that if you stop treading water you may never recover that lapse. It's bullshit.
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So true.
Thanks for spelling it out!
 
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I hope you didn't get someone pregnant.
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I always made very sure I wouldn't get pregnant (I'm a she). Like I said "no" two of three times someone asked me to marry them. The third time I said "okay" because it was a ritual thing just for him and me. No strings attached.
Curiously enough, the whole not wanting a family made things more difficult for me than let's say money issues (stating that I never was wealthy). I state your example with getting a place to live: people are more willing to rent the place to someone with a partner/kid(s) than to a single person.
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
They didn't really drop out though and usually have little regret for 'missing out' - it's more like they dropped in to something else
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Your early life sounds amazing!
For me that would be hard the way describe because I'm not a very social being.
Way do you refer to when you say people you know/knew have little regret of "missing out". What exactly did they missed out?
 
lecroute said:
I always made very sure I wouldn't get pregnant (I'm a she).
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I really should stop assuming everyone with a gripe against society is male. Equality and all that (we're all equally fucked!)
lecroute said:
Like I said "no" two of three times someone asked me to marry them. The third time I said "okay" because it was a ritual thing just for him and me. No strings attached.

Curiously enough, the whole not wanting a family made things more difficult for me than let's say money issues (stating that I never was wealthy). I state your example with getting a place to live: people are more willing to rent the place to someone with a partner/kid(s) than to a single person.
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Just another example of the underhanded selfishness of the system. It's more than happy to incentivize marriage and baby making (future tax payers), to get people locked into place in life so they can't easily move, but ironically not to actually help people get into that position in the first place. It wants you, the struggling single person with no financial leverage, to willingly place yourself inside the cage and close the door for them.
 
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