anyone abuse anesthetics?

[burn out]

Listen, interpret what I say however you please, but there's really no need for the smug demeanor nor the attitude. That's all I have left to say.

sorry but it's frustrating when you're telling the truth and no one believes or listens to you. saying "it's possible" instead of probable or likely that i was only given propofol, after i explained multiple times that that's all i was given, is pretty pretentious if you ask me.

 

[phr]

It's not that we don't believe you. I think most people don't think it's recreational.

With that being said, it doesn't mean you didn't find it pleasurable.

 

[CloudyHazeD]

Right.

Its not that far out there that a substance of this nature can be enjoyable for one and not for others.



Glad you enjoyed the minro perk of your procedure Burn Out. Having no direct experience with the stuff or anything even like it, I can offer nothing constructive to your thread.

Here is the Pharmacology section of the Wiki on Propofol:

Propofol is highly protein bound in vivo and is metabolised by conjugation in the liver. Its rate of clearance exceeds hepatic blood flow, suggesting an extrahepatic site of elimination as well. Its mechanism of action is uncertain, but it is postulated that its primary effect may be potentiation of the GABA-A receptor, possibly by slowing the closing channel time. Recent research has also suggested the endocannabinoid system may contribute significantly to Propofol's anesthetic action and to its unique properties.[1]

The elimination half-life of propofol has been estimated to be between 2–24 hours. However, its duration of clinical effect is much shorter because propofol is rapidly distributed into peripheral tissues, and its effects therefore wear off considerably within even a half hour of injection. This, together with its rapid effect (within minutes of injection) and the moderate amnesia it induces makes it an ideal drug for IV sedation

 

[mulberryman]

two words for ya.

Alpha Choralose.

oh and dont forget Ketamine and PCP. Those are anesthetics too.

 

[burn out]

It's not that we don't believe you. I think most people don't think it's recreational.

With that being said, it doesn't mean you didn't find it pleasurable.

well i guess it feels like some people don't believe me because they keep suggesting the doctors all conspired together and lied to me and slipped me some other drug.

as far most people not finding it recreational, the nurse told me that most people did find it recreational.

 

[RorerQuaalude714]

On second thought, I'm going to go with the angle that if it's being found that anesthesiologists have been known to abuse propofol, it clearly has recreational potential.

 

[burn out]

Of course it is, there's no question about it.

I see patients on it all the time for concious sedation, they're whacked out of their brains... dopey, smiling, gold fish memory and oozing like jello.

yes, that sounds about how i felt.

 

[danalprazolam]

well i am positive that's what my doctor, nurse, and the anesthesiologist said i was given, that and nothing else.

They didn't give you fentanyl? They gave me that when they put me to sleep so I wouldn't be in pain when I woke up.

 

[phr]

Carfentanil is enjoyable, that doesn't mean it's recreational. The fact that you need assisted breathing and exact dosing goes against propofol being recreational.

 

[danalprazolam]

I agree. Why would you want to mess with some weird shit like that. If they give you to much your dead. I cant wait to be a anesthesiologist.

 

[burn out]

Carfentanil is enjoyable, that doesn't mean it's recreational. The fact that you need assisted breathing and exact dosing goes against propofol being recreational.

who knows if you would need assisted breathing if you took a super low dose? they didn't assist with my breathing when i woke up, even though i was still quite intoxicated. besides, if this whole thing was just an argument over semantics, why didn't you point that out sooner?

 

[burn out]

I agree. Why would you want to mess with some weird shit like that. If they give you to much your dead. I cant wait to be a anesthesiologist.

why would i want to mess with it? well i wouldn't really, aside from looking forward to it the next time i'm in the hospital. but it was my first experience with any anesthetic and i was wondering if there were any other anesthetics good for recreational use.

 

[phr]

It wasn't really about semantics at first, because I thought we all had the same definition of what an enjoyable substance feels like.

It seems that some of you guys think that being

...whacked out of their brains... dopey, smiling, gold fish memory and oozing like jello.

means something is recreational. So I brought up semantics.

 

[phr]

but it was my first experience with any anesthetic and i was wondering if there were any other anesthetics good for recreational use.

Nitrous, ketamine, and PCP come to mind.

 

[burn out]

It wasn't really about semantics at first, because I thought we all had the same definition of what an enjoyable substance feels like.

why would you assume that? this is bluelight, there are people here who get their kicks from drinking cough syrup and IVing ambien tablets (two drugs i can't stand).

secondly, even if there was some universally accepted definition of what an enjoyable substance felt like, i would argue that propofol falls under that definition based on that the fact that a) it produces euphoria, the hallmark of recreational substances and b) most people report it to be enjoyable.

 

[burn out]

Nitrous, ketamine, and PCP come to mind.

i enjoy nitrous (although i find it very different from propofol) but i haven't had the opportunity to try the others.

 

[phr]

Euphoria can be subjective. I think I'd need some more anecdotal evidence before I agree that propofol produces it.

 

[melange]

If they give you to much your dead. I cant wait to be a anesthesiologist.

LOL

 

[burn out]

Propofol was associated with euphoria, "clear-headedness" and pleasant dreams more than thiopentone

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1961958&dopt=Abstract

Various mental changes, such as elation, euphoria, talkativeness and hallucination also occur after propofol anesthesia. Grant and Mackenzie13 reported that patients anesthetized with propofol woke up with euphoria and talkativeness.

http://www.cja-jca.org/cgi/content/full/49/9/927

One should be aware of the abuse potential of propofol with regard to its growing use outside the context of general anaesthesia.


http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13556210120056607?cookieSet=1&journalCode=adb

Patients report pleasant effects on awakening from propofol anesthesia, including elation and euphoria

http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/cgi/content/full/95/4/915

 

[phr]

Ok. I stand corrected. It does produce euphoria(at larger doses), can be psychologically addicting, and does have potential for abuse.