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anyone abuse anesthetics?

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burn out

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when i was in the hospital, i got propofol which is a very quick acting anesthetic. however, in my opinion it had a huge recreational potential. of course at first it just knocked me unconscious but when i woke up, it was one of the most blissful feelings i've ever felt. like a perfect sleep. the feeling was warm and happy, like an opiate but with no nausea, or itching or dizzyness or any side affects at all really. it's the only drug that's ever gotten me high without any real side affects to speak of whatsoever. i wonder what lower doses would be like/what else the field of anesthetics has to offer.

why don't you ever see drugs like this on the street?


note: i was only given propofol during this procedure. NO OTHER DRUGS.
 
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You won't find them on the street, as they're only found in hospitals and they keep track of their shit.

As for the recreational abilities of Propofol, there really aren't any. PhreeX was able to obtain some and even posted a picture of it in his gallery. The photo might still be there if you search for it. I think he concluded that it might be interesting at low doses, but it's not really a recreational substance.
 
lol i had propofol and it was one of the most recreational drug experiences i've ever had. how can you tell me a drug isn't recreational when i've tried it and you haven't?
 
Chubba75 said:
What type and dosage of Propofol emulsion did you get?

I've never used it myself, but I've seen in used plenty of times for TIVA in the operating room and for a plenty cases of concious sedation in the ER (particularly dislocations).

I did inhale small amounts of Sevoflurane once at University, can't say it was a pleasant experience :D

Phrozen, of course it's recreational, it's becoming standard over here in cases of concious sedation as opposed to midazolam + morphine (or fentanyl).
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i didn't ask the dosage, lol. i just let the anesthesiologist take care of that. all i know is i had a an IV drip, they gave it to me through there.

next thing i remember is waking up with one of the most peaceful feelings i've ever had in my life and just wanting to lay down and get as comfortable as i could except i had to get up to use the bathroom. i was high for a good half an hour after that, as the affects tapered off. like i said, it was similar to opiates but without the side affects and more sedation and also similar to benzos/alcohol but much more clear headed.

and i don't know why phrozen is saying it isn't recreational, i was afraid it was going to have unpleasant side affects at first so i asked the nurse about it and he smiled and said most people loved it and asked if they could have some to take home. i think it's pretty obvious it's recreational if people are asking to take some home with them.
 
phrozen said:
Are you sure that's the only thing you were given?
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well i am positive that's what my doctor, nurse, and the anesthesiologist said i was given, that and nothing else.
 
CloudyHazeD said:
Bingo!

No doubt he was also given some opiate for when you woke up.
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no, they told me propofol was the only drug they would be using and they don't use opiates in endoscopies. i also specifically told them not to give me any opiates because i can't stand the side affects of opiates. if i had been given an opiate, i would known anyway.
 
Nik Dynosaur said:
probably IM versed before the surgery too
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no, when i asked what i was getting they specifically said they don't use versed for this procedure anymore and i would be getting propofol only.
 
We're not saying you were given a different anesthetic. We're saying that you were given something else as well that may contribute to how you felt when you woke up.

Have you looked at the photo and read the comments?
 
phrozen said:
We're not saying you were given a different anesthetic. We're saying that you were given something else as well that may contribute to how you felt when you woke up.
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yes, i realized that and edited my post. but like i said, they made it very clear to me that propofol was the only drug they were going to be using.

Have you looked at the photo and read the comments?
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yes, but what is looking at the photo supposed to tell me?

and as for the comments, phreex says "if you play with the lower doses it can have some effects like taking a super high dose of nembutal or seconal"


now i've never tried seconal, but i've heard it was pretty darn recreational.
 
Well I've tried it. In the emergency room when I broke and dislocated my shoulder last year. I thought it was great because when I 'came to' everything was done so I felt infinitely better.

A got propofol and fentanyl injection.

For me the main therapeutic thing I got from the Propofol was amnesia.

The danger with seconal (and other barbs) is that you can never fucking remember if you just took some, so you take some anyway, repeat, OD.

Plus if there're mixed with alcohol they are very dangerous. I have woken up in some very strange places before. That's why they were basically taken off the market.(not because of me:) but many people were using them in this manner)
 
I've read in some journals that IV propofol abuse, while relatively uncommon, has occured amongst some hospital staff. However, generally was the case that it'd just pass the user out for a period of time instead of giving them a recreational buzz. I once happened upon a 10 mL vial of it a couple of years ago in the pharmaceutical disposal bins at work (I work at a hospital), yet I didn't bother taking it due to the fact that propofol can be fairly risky in the hands of the untrained or at the wrong doses.

Referring more to burn out's situation, in all likelihood, burn out was likely given an opiate in conjunction with the propofol as propofol has limited analgesic properties. However, that isn't to say that burn out wasn't only given propofol. Some anesthesiologists state that while propofol has no analgesic properties, analgesia may not necessarily be an issue if the patient is in a deep propofol-induced state of sedation.

Also, burn out's statement that "opiates aren't used in endoscopies" is false, fentanyl is frequently used in endoscopies.

The bottom line is that whether propofol has recreational potential or not, it's highly unlikely that it'll ever become a drug of abuse, due to the fact that it's only relegated to a hospital environment, and as Phrozen said, hospitals watch their shit. Additionally, it's not likely to become a popular drug of abuse due to its potency; and in that respect, it takes proper medical training, monitoring and equipment (i.e. heart monitors, ventilators, etc) to use it safely. It's definitely not a substance that would be safe in the hands of the untrained.
 
=RorerQuaalude714
Referring more to burn out's situation, in all likelihood, burn out was likely given an opiate in conjunction with the propofol as propofol has limited analgesic properties.
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how many different ways do i have to say it? i was not given any opiates. the hospital staff told me i would not be receiving any opiates, they told me THEY did not use opiates for edoscopies (maybe other hospitals do) and finally, opiates are contraindicated for me because i have had negative reactions to them in the past, which i made the doctor aware of.

and on top of all that, i would have KNOWN if i had been given an opiate because opiates have a distinct feel to them with distinct side affects such as nausea, pupilconstriction, analgesia, urinary retention, dizziness, etc. i had NONE of these affects.

so basically your theory is that everyone at the hospital lied to me, administered an opiate DESPITE the fact that opiates are contraindicated for me and said opiate had zero opiate affects? makes a lot of sense. 8)
 
^They could have used a short acting opiate such as remifentanil or alfentanil, both of which would have worn off well before you came to, hence your lack of feeling any opiate effects. The fact is propofol has no analgesic properties would further the likelihood that such an ultrashort opiate was used. Furthermore, it's highly unlikely that all opiates are contraindicated for you, but I'm not even going to touch that one with a ten-foot pole.

Finally, if you actually read my post, I said that it is possible for you to have only been given propofol on the account that some anesthesiologists believe that analgesia is meaningless when a patient is in a deep state of propofol-induced analgesia.
 
RorerQuaalude714 said:
^They could have used a short acting opiate such as remifentanil or alfentanil, both of which would have worn off well before you came to, hence your lack of feeling any opiate effects.
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then why did i feel high? sorry but the side affects of opiates would still be present if i was still feeling the high.

The fact is propofol has no analgesic properties would further the likelihood that such an ultrashort opiate was used. Furthermore, it's highly unlikely that all opiates are contraindicated for you, but I'm not even going to touch that one with a ten-foot pole.

Finally, if you actually read my post, I said that it is possible for you to have only been given propofol on the account that some anesthesiologists believe that analgesia is meaningless when a patient is in a deep state of propofol-induced analgesia.
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possible? what reason would i have to suspect otherwise? are you telling me the doctor, the nurse and the anesthesiologist all lied to me about what drugs they were giving me for absolutely no reason? your line of thinking just doesn't make any sense.
 
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