Anybody else have this prob with L?

[AdrenalineJunkie]

So the last few times I have taken LSD (yes im positive it was LSD) I've ended up being horribly sick a few hours in. This last time especially sucked, I was at a festival and i know lotsss of people who took this L, very very good liquid L and they all had a great time, but me about 3 hours in I started puking, and did not stop until the trip was just about over, my stomach was in insane knots and id puke everything up, then woulod start puking foamy bile and if i drank water out it came as well. I was frying pretty hard, my whole body was realllly shaky, hAD a headache and literally wanted to cut my stomach out of me. This never used to happen on L and I've taken it around 100 or so times maybe, but my last few trips have left me feeling overall really icky and shitty, back and joint pains, stomach cramps and non stop puking. This upsets me cuz I used to LOVE L and now im pretty sure ill never take it again, given the chance i'll even remotely feel like I did the last couple times. Does this just happen as some people get older/body chemistry changes? Anyone else get this when they dose? And I know it was L, this has happend the last couple times I've done it, standard 10ish hour trip same visuals same taste in mouth etc etc. I'm bummed!

 

[mad_demon_man_ant]

how many times has this happened?

 

[sekio]

Sounds like there are other ergoloids in your chemically untested "L".

People don't spontaneously develop intolerances to drugs after hundreds of usages. Either you're getting a stomach bug or there are other chemicals in the liquid in addition to LSD that your body doesn't agree with.

It could also be set and setting.

 

[PsychedelicPeptide]

No I think this ergoloid stuff is all nonsense. Serotonergics cause stomach problems. The other stuff is probably just a side effect of the stomach problems or a combined effect of a hot summer festival setting and the stomach discomfort.

To combat the stomach problems I preload with loperamide and simethicone, 2 tabs each, 1 hour before ingestion. Also you want to take ginger, either make a strong root tea extract or just get the highest quality powder you can, and eat a tablespoon of it at the same time 1 hour before. The ginger is a must. To eat the tablespoon if you are real tuff you can get it down with a spoon, but I can't and I end up taking a fruit rollup and ripping off a chunk and using it as an encapsulating device to make a large ginger pill (I make two actually, and sometimes have more later in the night if I feel nauseous) to swallow down with water. Just make sure you push it together real tight so it doesn't fall apart when you swallow. And keep pepto bismol (bismuth salicylate) tabs on hand if you need them. I find these a lot more helpful than antacids for fast relief of sour stomach symptoms.

Also if you are eating a lot in the hours before use you probably shouldn't. That's not to say malnourish yourself, especially at a hot summer festival, but don't be eating huge meals and a few hours later acid. As for body pains the best thing you can do is stretch before and during the trip. Or maybe try some over-the-counter pain medicine along with the stomach stuff 1 hour before. I usually get back pains from any type of serotonergic, acid, shrooms, 2Cwhatever, etc so I usually will take some 12 or 24 hour OTC (read: Not narcotics!) as well.

You can also try high dose fish oil for pain. 10 grams of a good supplement should help, and it won't have side effects.

I used to not have these issues from acid much either but now at age 26 I get stomach issues every time, unless I take the necessary precautions (see above).

 

[AdrenalineJunkie]

This has probably happend the last 3 or 4 good trips, not counting the times i ate weak/bunk stuff and didnt get off. Thanks for your suggestion psychpep, if i ever have all that on hand when i dose i might consider lol i guess the acid gods are telling me i've gotten all i can and its time to chill out.... man that last time though felt almost identical to heroin withdrawal, with more puking lol. Acid has always caused a good amount of mucous for me and I've heard it can cause your gall bladder to produce more bile, so my stomach may just have been hit with all the acidity of that, who knows. It just sucked bein around a buncha friends frying delightfully and me crawling into a corner to die basically hahaha. When my face wasn't buried in a garbage bag i had some really sick visuals though My stomach has gotten a lotttt weaker in the last few years, probably just too much abuse i guess

 

[PsychedelicPeptide]

I don't think you should give it up. All it takes is a little preparation and you'll be fine. Trust me I was in your same shoes a year ago. I hadn't done any L in a few years, but in between that I did more MDMA than I could possibly imagine. Maybe it sensitized my stomach? Maybe not, maybe it is just age or something else. Well then I got some good L and it fucked my stomach up bad. I was on the ground for well over an hour laying there in terrible pain. It turns out the problem for me was gas bubbles that form in my stomach later in the trip, around 3 hours in, a lot like what you mention. I felt the damn things, my stomach just makes this weird rumble and then the pain.

I'd had some issues with acidic stomach previously on L, nothing a bunch of antacids wouldn't help though. This gas stuff was different though. Well I did L a few more times and got the same response. Finally I was about to give up like you then I started asking around here for ideas and people separately mentioned things like loperamide and ginger. Then I got smart and started preloading. Now I don't get the gas bubbles that just form and sit there anymore. They just go straight out. My stomach is ready to deal with it. And it's not like I'm farting all night or anything. It's just one or two at the 2-3 hour mark and that's it. If I just get past that I'm fine all night. My point is if you just be smart about it and prepare your stomach properly, you'll be fine.