Any way to get rid of the burn?

[hungry_ghost]

I've railed research chems before and they always burn like hell, more then pills or oxy and some other stuff that I have done. Is there any way to make the burn not as intense?

 

[atara]

One RC site I know of sells Procaine powder, cheap as dirt. You should really be careful with local anaesthetics, though, even the ones that aren't psychoactive carry a risk of cardiotoxicity.

 

[nasir~]

How about not snorting things that burn like hell?
-e.g. instead ingesting orally, rectally etc.

 

[hungry_ghost]

Can you even plug stuff like 2C-E? I mean, would a gelcap work?

 

[Xorkoth]

Yes, you can plug 2C-E and any other 2C-X and almost any substance really, to great effect. Plugging reduces the dosage by about a half and in my opinion makes the effects much smoother on the body, reducing bodyload significantly. It's my preferred method for 2C-Xs.

 

[slackley]

is there any specific method you use for plugging RCs?

 

[Shambles]

Warm water and an oral syringe. Or with more detail and alternatives - The Big and Dandy Guide to Rectal Administration (Plugging)

 

[Xorkoth]

I usually now just put the dose in a gel cap. Make sure to get it nice and wet so it will dissolve quickly. It works about 95% as well as the syringe for me but is much cleaner and easier. The syringe is definitely the best way, but I usually find it unnecessary.

 

[Shambles]

I'm well practiced - can do the whole job stood up in a matter of seconds. I also have an irrational concern about pure powder coming into contact with sensitive flesh cos some of these RCs feel pretty damn corrosive. But a ml or two of water probably doesn't make a whole lotta difference, I guess.

 

[Xorkoth]

I generally find that when it's mixed in water it burns more than when the powder comes directly into contact.

 

[Shambles]

Interesting... I've never had a solution burn at all. Worst I've had is using cold water that seems to cause a general discomfort that's worst around the kidneys. Never had any burning though.

 

[psood0nym]

I generally find that when it's mixed in water it burns more than when the powder comes directly into contact.

That's really odd since a solution is by definition less concentrated. It seems like more tissue damage must occur with direct contact, even if you don't feel it as much. Maybe since 2C-x doses are relatively low the chem gets somewhat dissolved in the gelatin?

 

[Bardeaux]

My very first experience with RCs was 20mg 2c-i insufflated and I've never returned to that ROA with 2c-x. The prolonged burn is quite a damper on the experience imo and I hear others like 2c-e are even worse. I dont really fancy the idea of using local anesthetics to minimize the burn, so I would find another ROA as suggested already.

 

[SpecialK_]

If you are persistent with railing eventually you will 'burn' away the nerves (I'm guessing this is what it is.) Which means it'll be less painful, although this has long-term effects, I know people who have now weakened or extremely poor sense of smell due to mephedrone abuse. You'll get used to it though, otherwise try bombing it or pouring it into a glass of water (if suitable) and drinking it.

 

[nopipesdfw]

I have snorted a lot of 2c-i and 2c-e, and I tend to use a couple of tricks in terms of combos to cut the pain down a little bit.

If I'm rolling and take them in small bumps, it's not bad at all.

If I snort a massive line, I tend to to whippets immediately afterwards into the peak and it really is hard to notice.

Not the most healthy advice, but if you like to combo and/or roll or do nitrous binges they reduce the negative intensity of it all imo.

 

[jamaica0535]

The only way your going to get rid of it is to find some local anestetics such as procaine, and if you can go through the trouble of getting ahold of that you might as well just buy more of whatever your taking and save the nose.

Most of them have a harsher edge when you snort them...

*rail*
"Well that wasn't so ba.... what the hell did i just do to myself?!?"
*5 minutes later*
"Oh god this shit burns, oh fuck the walls are melting. my brain is on fire!"
*10 minutes later*
"well that hurt a lot, wow im tripping balls"

The whole really painful 15 minutes and comming up in the first 5 really kind of ruins the whole thing for me....

RCs are some of the cheapest drugs in existance, just take twice as much as you snort and swallow it....

Its not really as quick as snorting it but you could also try to dose it sublingually.... It has a strong chemicalness to it but it really doesn't taste that bad.... i have licked it off a table....

 

[Shambles]

^ Have heard some folks have ended up with chemical burns from RCs taken sublingually so maybe not best for all of them...

Plugging is the way forward for most of these kinda things for me. Although recently my guttywuts seem to tolerate 2C-x far better than they used to so go the oral route far more often than I used to. Snorting is reserved for 2C-B, C and D only with me.

 

[ChronicHD]

Don't know what the consensus about this is, but if shits burning up in my nose I just snort a little bit of water and it clears the pain up right away.

 

[hungry_ghost]

Don't know what the consensus about this is, but if shits burning up in my nose I just snort a little bit of water and it clears the pain up right away.

Does it actually work? Is there any danger to it?

 

[Xorkoth]

Danger to snorting water? Nope. I can imagine it would feel soothing.