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any successful occasional meth/heroin users?

I've used heroin maybe 20 times in the past three years and have never had any problem with addiction. I think my success (where friends have not been so lucky) is probably due to the fact that I have always made absolutely sure that I have never used 'habitually' in any sense, ie. that I don't use exactly every month or every two months or always in a certain situation as I believe forming a habit of this nature is often the first step on the road to proper dependence. It is easy to say, I can use once a month with no real withdrawls, why not try once a week.

More importantly perhaps I have never fallen into the trap of using weaker opiates to bridge the gap between periods of H use, I always leave at least weeks in between opiate/opiod use of any kind. I've seen friends make this mistake, they will convince themselves they won't get addicted to H because they only use that once a month, yet they are taking PPT, or codeine or whatever more days than they aren't, and soon they have a reasonable tolerance and maybe even minor dependence, and it becomes easy to rationalise buying H instead of those others since you are high all the time anyway, and it's better bang for your buck.

Another important factor is that I have never IV'd heroin, only smoked/sniffed. IME those who move onto IV seem more likely to become addicted, or at least if they are addicted they are more seriously addicted.

So simple answer is that yes it is possible of course, but it really is a dangerous game to be playing. Personally a big part of me wishes I had just left well enough alone, because even though I have never developed a problem yet, plenty of others have, and I'm more likely to join their ranks than someone who 'just says no' lol.
 
I've used heroin occasionally and never got addicted.

Wish I could say the same about meth... I'm now slowly recovering from a heavy 3 year addiction. :\
 
If you think you can use heroin and not probably end up addicted and ruining your life eventually then you are just deluding yourself.

People on BL read replies like some of the above and then think well maybe if I'm smart I can avoid addiction. Famous last words.
 
^ That's why I've only used heroin a few times. I didn't want an opiate addiction on top of my meth addiction. Opiates aren't really my drugs of choice anyway. But you're right, meth and heroin are probably the two most addictive drugs available. The vast majority of meth and heroin users I know are addicted.
 
Sweet P said:
^ That's why I've only used heroin a few times. I didn't want an opiate addiction on top of my meth addiction. Opiates aren't really my drugs of choice anyway. But you're right, meth and heroin are probably the two most addictive drugs available. The vast majority of meth and heroin users I know are addicted.
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Me too, I've used it maybe a couple of dozen times at most. The last time I could feel myself just about falling into an addictive pattern. Luckily my circumstances changed so that I wasn't able to continue using (got ripped off since I look and speak like Harry Potter).

I was the type of person I described. I read a lot of personal experiences and thought I was somehow proving something by using without getting addicted. Unfortunately BL played a part in influencing me which caused me to dabble (not that BL is responsible mind you). I just wouldn't use heroin, full stop. It's just not worth the risk. Sure, you might get away and people certainly do, but if you don't get away with it and end up in a spiral of addiction you can potentially literally throw your life away. Taking that sort of gamble with your life just is not worth it for the sake of getting high now and again. You might think that you can handle it, you don't have an addictive personality but that's what ever heroin addict once thought.

There are plenty of safer drugs to do if you really want to get high. Some indica strain of marijuana have a nice narcotic like high and are good at relieving anxiety and helping you relax. Using heroin is just not smart (that's not tonsay that smart people aren't immune from making the mistake of using heroin though).
 
for me its a double edged sword ~ i wouldnt call myself a success but, ~ i can do a chipper and have a day or two of peaceful fun and stop , but then comes the heroin dreams, cravings , im not psychically addicted at the moment, but the shits in my brain and wont leave, like i can smoke ciggerattes when im partying and once the party stops, i stop smoking and not even think about them , but with heroin shits on my mind
when i get some money, its like hmmmmmm 8)
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^ what you described is worrying, especially the part where you say 'when I get some money I'm like hmmmmm'.

You have to remember, you're never immune from addiction. A lot of people go years 'chipping' and then get blasé and relaxed and fall into the trap. Going for a year or however long without getting addicted proves nothing to yourself but just gives you a false sense of security.

Even well disciplined minds eg SAS soldiers aren't immune from adddiction.
 
I have used meth occasionally since high school (12yrs). I didn't start experience any type of cravings until I began iv. I have been using this way for only about 6m and its a whole different world. There are days it takes all I have in me not to use. I only allow myself to use one day a week (usually Sat) no more then 3 shots. For me personally I force myself to eat 3 meals and I won't shoot after 10pm. When I snorted I never had a problem or made myself rules :) good luck
 
I usually go on binges, where I'll do heroin every day up to three or four times a day for two weeks at a time.

I crave it extremely badly when I take a few weeks off, though. I just don't let myself score more after I run out. It's so difficult. If I had the money to score more after my stash ran out, I for sure would :(

I am not sure that this would qualify as "occasional" use, but I would consider this "occasional" use.
 
Sweet P said:
I've used heroin occasionally and never got addicted.

Wish I could say the same about meth... I'm now slowly recovering from a heavy 3 year addiction. :\
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I'm the opposite P, I got addicted to heroin but I can use meth occasionally. I definitely don't fuck with meth too hard because I know it's a very psychologically addictive/reinforcing drug.

You are recovering though and that's what counts! And congratulations on never having to struggle through heroin addiction, because it's certainly NO fun at all!
 
Some people do seem to be more resistant to addiction than others. A friend of mine has been using heroin as long as I have (25+ years) and has never developed a proper addiction - he's come close but never actually crossed that line. Aside from the fact he naturally has more self discipline than I do, he has always avoided getting his own score so has to rely on other people all the time. This means he can't always get it even if he wants to so manages to keep use down to a minimum.
 
<--meth addict....everyone i know who does it, hasnt stopped, or maybe they did for a while, but relapsed.....
 
I think this thread may be more appropriate for the drug culture forum...

Let's try it there


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F.U.B.A.R. said:
Aside from the fact he naturally has more self discipline than I do, he has always avoided getting his own score so has to rely on other people all the time. This means he can't always get it even if he wants to so manages to keep use down to a minimum.
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This is the main way I see that actually being feasible. If you don't have a connect or any sort of easy access to acquire any product, then it would be easier to avoid addiction/habit as there just would be no way to actually get high routinely.

If there was a readily available supply and a person had the cash to acquire it, it seems far-fetched to think they could continue with using only occasionally. I know from experience that it's possible to use only once a month/every few months. I also know how much easier it is to fall when suddenly there's a supply to fill any demand.

I think that sometimes only being an occasional user can give a false sense of security about being 'addiction-proof'.
 
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