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Any realistic alternatives to using weed at night?

Troppo

Troppo

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I have been smoking weed for years as a way of keeping off alcohol at night and it has worked, but now I have been diagnosed with ADHD and the psychiatrist provider I have been referred to insists on their clients not using pot while being prescribed stimulants. They advise you to get off weed for 4 weeks before the appointment, as they urine-test you to make sure you're not using it. I'd like to know if there are any realistic alternatives to cannabis at night? I don't smoke a lot, so don't need something ultra-strong, just something psychoactive in a relaxing way - but not alcohol. I can't use benzos or z-drugs as I had tolerance and withdrawal problems with those when I was using them every night for sleep, and GHB is hard to obtain where I live. Are there ANY herbs that are strong enough to resemble weed? I once tried damiana but found it so weak that it had no effect on me, even when I used large amounts of a strong extract. I tried blue lotus flower but also found it weak. I have heard of wild dagga and klip dagga being used as smoking alternatives but I have already spent too much on herbs to keep trying different ones. Maybe there is a herbal combination that could work? It's ok if it's in the form of an alcoholic extract, as the amount of alcohol consumed would be small, and small amounts don't trigger me to drink large amounts. Any thoughts?
 
Thats nuts that you cant smoke weed cause your on stims. My brother gets ritalin and his doctor is fully aware of his cannabis use. Personally i love the combo of weed and ritalin or better yet weed and Dexedrine. I dont know why they would have it out for people who use this combo. It's a great combo for doing stuff. I like cleanng on weed and ritalin
 
I was formerly on weed and dex and I had absolutely no problems with the combination. They claim they don't approve of it because both drugs can increase heart rate and blood pressure but I think that's pure bullshit. I'm going to message them to say I had no problems with the combo and am only using a small amount of medicinal cannabis.
 
Troppo said:
I was formerly on weed and dex and I had absolutely no problems with the combination. They claim they don't approve of it because both drugs can increase heart rate and blood pressure but I think that's pure bullshit. I'm going to message them to say I had no problems with the combo and am only using a small amount of medicinal cannabis.
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I wouldn't message them. They are already convinced iron clad that cannabis is bad. I would not go see them and find another doctor thats has different views on cannabis.
 
Weed ... isn't that a classic way of coming down off stims? Makes me wonder if the doctors have ever actually tried any of the drugs they're prescribing.

I sleep like absolute cold *** .. one year according to my sleep monitor I was under 1 hour a night (not including the MANY nights without sleep). These days I swear by valerian root (as a tea). It's basically about as psychoactive as eating ants, but a warm / cold drink (depending on climate) can sometimes help .. if your tired. The other thing that might be worth a try though it only really applies to benders is to try eating a little protein. If your strung out it can sometimes make you crash. During sleep your body manufactures cothelacomes and you use protein to do it so it's worth a try.

Ya know .. the best advice is to smoke some weed. Well .. unless you've got to operate heavy machinery in the morning that is.
 
Innerpeace said:
I wouldn't message them. They are already convinced iron clad that cannabis is bad. I would not go see them and find another doctor thats has different views on cannabis.
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You're right. I'll ask my GP to refer me to a different doctor. She referred me to a company that employs psychiatrists and ADHD specialists but the whole company has the policy of no weed while on stimulants. Dickheads.
 
Troppo said:
I'd like to know if there are any realistic alternatives to cannabis at night? I don't smoke a lot, so don't need something ultra-strong, just something psychoactive in a relaxing way - but not alcohol. I can't use benzos or z-drugs
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There are many viable options.
These work either via the cannabinoid, GABA, glutamate, opioid or adrenergic systems.
  • Theanine
  • Agmatine
  • Niacinamide (low-dose)
  • Beta-caryophyllene
  • Linalool
  • Myrcene
  • Nerolidol
  • Phytol
  • Myrrh oil
  • Cannabigerol
  • Magnolia officinalis (pure extract)
  • Apigenin
  • Kava
 
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Barbituates?

Benadryl?

Low dose seroquel?

Trazadone?

Opiates?

Melatonin is worth a try

Are there LESS HARMFUL methods to fall asleep -- not that I found
 
agree with finding someone else if you can.

I'd throw Kratom into the list as well, might work well given its potency imho is on a par with weed and the type of high you seem to be looking for
 
paranoid android said:
Thats nuts that you cant smoke weed cause your on stims. My brother gets ritalin and his doctor is fully aware of his cannabis use. Personally i love the combo of weed and ritalin or better yet weed and Dexedrine. I dont know why they would have it out for people who use this combo. It's a great combo for doing stuff. I like cleanng on weed and ritalin
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what country are you in because you guys seem to get all the good drugs prescribed without all this anti drug BS , if you don’t mind my asking
 
to answer OP, there’s always synthetic cannabinoids.

there are bad for you and who knows how toxic they are due to their novelty.

but this is what drug prohibition does; it makes ppl take more dangerous drugs.

the answer to your question is NO.

there are no safe drugs that aren’t dependency forming that will substitute for weed.
 
Find another doctor, that’s ridiculous.

I would say kratom/7OH is a legit alternative, but it comes with its own shitstorm. From an addiction standpoint, it’s probably better to stick to weed.

Also, other legit non addictive options are Hydroxyzine and Orphenadrine. Hydroxyzine is an antihistamine with anxiolytic and sedative properties.

Orphenadrine is mainly a muscle relaxant with anticholinergic effects, somewhat related to antihistamines, which is why it can also cause sedation and relaxation. It helps reduce muscle tension, stiffness, and discomfort by acting on the central nervous system. Personally, it relaxes my muscles a lot and makes me sleepy from how relaxed it makes my body feel.
 
paranoid android said:
Canada. It depends on the doc i guess
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makes sense. canada is more progressive. more personal freedom. more compassion.

MAID is actually accessible and legal there (it is on the west coast in the US but almost nobody gets it)


y’all have safe supply:

thats already a huge difference in how the drugs are viewed.


i’m in california. id trade citizenship in a second for canadian citizenship
 
Dr. John Thackery said:
makes sense. canada is more progressive. more personal freedom. more compassion.

MAID is actually accessible and legal there (it is on the west coast in the US but almost nobody gets it)


y’all have safe supply:

thats already a huge difference in how the drugs are viewed.


i’m in california. id trade citizenship in a second for canadian citizenship
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I am very against MAID. It is some typical liberal bullshit. Oh yes where liberals we dont believe in bettering things so you actually want to live so heres state sanctioned suicide instead. Fuck sakes

Canada is a fucking shithole. Just because we are better then the US does not make us good
 
paranoid android said:
I am very against MAID. It is some typical liberal bullshit. Oh yes where liberals we dont believe in bettering things so you actually want to live so heres state sanctioned suicide instead. Fuck sakes

Canada is a fucking shithole. Just because we are better then the US does not make us good
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i mean medicine has its limits ppl don’t seem to want to accept that they are going to die and there’s nothing the best medical science known to man can do about it

i am very pro MAID. i think it’s wonderful that ppl get to own their own bodies and choose to die instead of the state forcing rotting vegetables to stay alive as long as possible in extreme pain.




sanctity of life argument is bullshit, life is cheap. life is a cancer and humans are all going to die horrible deaths no matter what anyways. because a jewish book said “though shalt not kill” 2000 years ago we force our elderly to rot in total agony for an extra 4 months. what a beautiful thing life is….especially those extra 4 months at the end shitting blood and getting your asshole eaten inside alive from cancer….im so glad my government is going to force me to stay alive for that when it’s my turn
 
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Dr. John Thackery said:
i mean medicine has its limits ppl don’t seem to want to accept that they are going to die and there’s nothing the best medical science known to man can do about it

i am very pro MAID. i think it’s wonderful that ppl get to own their own bodies and choose to die instead of the state forcing rotting vegetables to stay alive as long as possible in extreme pain.




sanctity of life argument is bullshit, life is cheap. life is a cancer and humans are all going to die horrible deaths no matter what anyways. because a jewish book said “though shalt not kill” 2000 years ago we force our elderly to rot in total agony for an extra 4 months. what a beautiful thing life is….especially those extra 4 months at the end shitting blood and getting your asshole eaten inside alive from cancer….im so glad my government is going to force me to stay alive for that when it’s my turn
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Ya but in a capitalist society you know MAID is going to be abused. They have people killing themselves in Canada because they cannot afford to live. Also they want to let mentally ill people kill themselves that is fucked. How about actualy helping these people?
 
paranoid android said:
Ya but in a capitalist society you know MAID is going to be abused. They have people killing themselves in Canada because they cannot afford to live. Also they want to let mentally ill people kill themselves that is fucked. How about actualy helping these people?
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ah but in even more capitalist america we need to force the most terminal miserable dying rotting corpse to stay alive as possible because we can keep billing them more and more for medical treatment the longer week keep them clinging to life on their deathbed.

that way when they finally do die, the spouse or the estate owes a massive medical debt…..or if not the taxpayers get to foot the bill for keeping the corpse alive for that extra 4 months of bed rotting.

for profit hospitals, pharma, loves doing that. a patient dead via MAID can’t be milked for money anymore.


depends what kind of mentally jll pll. if the person is not psychotic and can make the decision rationally …..i believe in bodily autonomy above all else - so they should get to kill their body in a humane way. they are gonna do it anyways and if it’s not in a hospital too or at home using MAID they’ll just blow the contents of their skull all over the wall of the local convenience store for the public to witnesss instead.

or jump in front of a train at the station and be ripped to streds in front of crowds of pll,

again therapy and medicine has its limits and some pll will want to kill themseleves no matter all the finest treatment you give them.
 
Dr. John Thackery said:
ah but in even more capitalist america we need to force the most terminal miserable dying rotting corpse to stay alive as possible because we can keep billing them more and more for medical treatment the longer week keep them clinging to life on their deathbed.

that way when they finally do die, the spouse or the estate owes a massive medical debt…..or if not the taxpayers get to foot the bill for keeping the corpse alive for that extra 4 months of bed rotting.

for profit hospitals, pharma, loves doing that. a patient dead via MAID can’t be milked for money anymore.


depends what kind of mentally jll pll. if the person is not psychotic and can make the decision rationally …..i believe in bodily autonomy above all else - so they should get to kill their body in a humane way. they are gonna do it anyways and if it’s not in a hospital too or at home using MAID they’ll just blow the contents of their skull all over the wall of the local convenience store for the public to witnesss instead.

or jump in front of a train at the station and be ripped to streds in front of crowds of pll,

again therapy and medicine has its limits and some pll will want to kill themseleves no matter all the finest treatment you give them.
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I dont believe in maid for mental illness. Depression can be helped just doctors are to lazy to help people. Ya bro no meds for you just kill yourself instead

The laziness of doctors is the reason we still have ect and barbaric practices like that
 
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