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Misc Any idea for a MILD euphoriant with few side effects at low doses?

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Harambulus

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I'm looking for something that will give me a MILD mood lift, nothing major, similar to a fun hobby would make you feel good and with it few side effects such that I could take it of an evening and feel good for a couple of hours and be back to normal for sleep and the next day.

Note dopamine agonists are my preferred tipple.

Weed and alcohol are both out of the question as I hate them both for different reasons.

I imagine the RC scene would have something to fit the bill but what I am unsure.

I really should probably actually find a hobby I enjoy rather than try and substitute it with a drug but I'm really picky about what I like.

Thoughts?
 
mild euphoria, low doses, with few side effects

thatt screams adderall... its an amphetamine that contains 75% dex-amphetamine which is like methamphetamine only less potent and less neurotoxic.
there is also ritalin, concerta, focalin, any sort of amphetamine thats snorted will have mild euphoria at low doses (cant snort concerta)

or if you looking for something that isnt considered "speed".
opiates like vicodin, percocet, and oxycontin are among favorites for drug users
 
dopamine agonists or dopamine reuptake inhibitors? b/c racemics are usually the latter.

your right i wasnt thinking that..
when i see "dopamine" i assume they are looking for something that pumps them with waves of dopamine

what would an example of a dopamine agonist be?
 
Hmm I tried aderall and I found it annoying cos I was into speed alot at the time and was annoyed cos it didn't really get me anywhere yet still made me feel like shit the next day. The euphoria part might not be the issue now but still I remember feeling grotty same as I would with amphetamine the next day so I would say that is out of the question for me, but a good idea nonetheless.

I have tried codeine a couple times but the thought of it makes me wanna puke now. I think perhaps I took a bit too much before as I was advised on here being a newbie (think it was around 260 mg) but still the thought of drinking that sour liquid is making me shiver even as I type :).

I don't care if it's either just so long as it fits the bill of giving a nice mild euphoria w/o bad comedown/body load.
 
codiene doesnt have shit on oxycodone or hydrocodon or even morphine.. codiene is like the little brother of opiates

10 mg of percocet in one day will have me fucked.. (i have no opiate tolerance)
 
yea at really low doses and very infrequent use Opes are perfect for what u describe IMO

however addiction is a major side effect once your "hobby" turns into your day-to-day routine.

get a real hobby n leaves the Opes alone would prob be the best HR advice someone could give you
 
Hmm, for one I don;t think that those things are that easy to get in the UK (where I am), and secondly I don't like the constipation involved with opiates- even tho codeine is my only exp. with them I have read that they are all similar in that respect.

So both those things pretty much rule that out.
 
your location says flow state, i assumed you were in the US too.

for just the mild mood lift you could try a low dose of mushrooms or something, just dose low orelse there will be nothing mild about it and you wont get sleep n be 100% the next day

but low doses of mushrooms can be fun, get the body feeling n mood lift n then smoke a bowl n maybe u'd be into that?

anyways this thread is kinda self serving and asking what to get high on so it will likely get closed, i just wanted to tell you that yea opes fit the bill for what u say u want but there bad news bears
 
Kratom all the way man. It'll give you some nice subtle stimulation, moderate to high euphoria dosage depending, little to no neurotoxicity (probably a shit ton less than alcohol), is cheap and easy to get, not to mention legal. Also it is technically not addicting, but I think that's BS. It's like one of those "This is how people should feel all the time." kind of highs that obviously leaves you wanting it once it wears off....but then again, what drug isn't? Have yet to notice any bad side effects aside from nausea after drinking the vile tea.

I also notice it keeps you stimulated for quite a long time. The past two days I dosed at about 7 or 8pm, and was very pleasantly and comfortably stimulated and still euphoric until the early morning hours, however, it seems if I simply take a melatonin, I'm asleep in minutes. It's not like other 'opiates' that make you drowsy and nodding and stuff, it's motivating and energetic. Waking up the next day seems to be easier too if I dosed on kratom the night before.

All I'd say is use it in moderation and you should be gold. Maybe add some kava kava to the mix for sedation/relaxation.
 
Cool, some good ideas here.

For mushrooms it has the advantage that it happens to be prime mushroom season here in the uk but I've found dosing low in the past to only give me uncomfortable body electric shocks. I remember me and my friends always used to hate dosing low cos that's all we'd get so we'd wanna break the threshold to avoid the electric shock effect.

I'll look into kratom. I had a cursory look a while ago as it seemed intriguing then so I will do so again.

As for flow state it is referring to a mindstate of being 'in flow' like in the moment type of deal.
 
low doses suboxone gives a nice euphoria, energy, and anti-depressant properties. Anything under 1mg should do. Works great for me everyday. you just gotta research it in detail firs and know what your doing.
 
I really should probably actually find a hobby I enjoy rather than try and substitute it with a drug but I'm really picky about what I like.

Thoughts?


you couldnt have said it better yourself


how old are you, you seem young, and you seem like your the "suburbian" type...

i can tell right now, you are going to be a drug addict if you try using drugs..

hard drugs unlike weed and alcohal, you really have no choice but to enjoy them, thats where the danger lies...it just chemically alters your mind to be happy for the time its going through ur system.

then u go thru a come down (uppers), which is you just feeling like shit.

so yeah, u should just find a hobby

dirt biking, quading, downhill biking, bmx, skateboarding, rollerblading, racing cars, even computers like learning shit about it.



and.
theres so many fucking things in this world, and ur picky about what u like?
what kind of bullshit is that, i just think u have a depression issue

(yes i am judging by ur post so dont go off on me if ur offended by depression.)

and depression can easily be rid of by doin the right things in life, doin things u enjoy;most important part, and socialize with people positively
 
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Hmm, for one I don;t think that those things are that easy to get in the UK (where I am), and secondly I don't like the constipation involved with opiates- even tho codeine is my only exp. with them I have read that they are all similar in that respect.

So both those things pretty much rule that out.

the constipation is not a big deal AT ALL

so, you cant shit for a few hours, you high who cares, just shit the next day

and its not like u feel like u have to shit, u just cant..its nothing noticable

just shit b4 getting high, that simple
 
Try going to your local health food/herb store, and take a look at some of the tinctures they have, as well as capsules and what not. Look for ingredients like Valerian, Kava, Skullcap, Blue Vervain, California Poppy, etc. You can usually find a tincture with most if not all of those items listed, and it'll probably have some cheesy name such as "MellowOut" or whatever.

On the opposite end of the (herbal) spectrum, there is always Ephedra and Guarana, both of which can also be found at an herbstore. I don't know how much euphoria you should expect from any of these things, but euphoria is a subjective term, and perhaps you might find what you're looking for in something mild like a plant extract. Also, with these types of options, you pretty much avoid the addiction potential that exists with almost any pharmaceutical capable of producing "euphoria."
 
Tramadol??

completely agree. 100mg-200mg will give you energy and a subtle mood lift.

but some people don't feel it at all. it's a hit or miss kind of drug.

I have a slight tolerance to opiates (70-100mg of hydrocodone is an ideal dose for me) yet I still feel the effects of tramadol.

If I really want to get high I take about 400mg+ but there's a risk for seizures.

I think tramadol really depends on the person and their brain chemistry.

I've taken 700mg before and had no problem with seizures, just insomnia.
 
Kratom was a good idea....

maybe a very small dose of bupe was a good idea....

i was going to say xanax or alprazolam sounds perfect for you, maybe even some valium.

also people are saying tramadol, and i agree, although there are some weird risks. i would suggest some hydrocodone..... addictive, but if used sparingly this will produce some great "euphoria"...
 
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