Misc Any drugs I should avoid? Bipolar 1 -- SSRIs causing Psychosis.

[tricomb]

I used it more than a lot. Haha, the magic is just not there anymore, it just feels like synthetic euphoria, like methamphetamine. It's not like that whole lovey dovey, The universe is okay, nothing could possibly go wrong, type feeling.

Now it's just "oh this feels good.....I'm very thirsty". So not worth it anymore IMO, I still try molly every once in a while, and it's fun and all but it's not even close to what I used to feel. I don't know which drugs I've done more of, opiates or MDMA, it's gotta be a damn close tie.

To say I've done a lot of MDMA would be an understatement. I have been out of that scene for quite some time now though. Definitely avoid it if bipolar.

 

[The Dope Man]

dont forget what MDMA stands for.

methylene
dioxy
METH
AMPHETAMINE

but definitely avoid ANY and ALL stimulants. I would even avoid caffeine and such.

 

[tricomb]

-3,4MDMA

yes caffeine is also bad, probably unnecessary sugars are too.

 

[JarBag]

I used it more than a lot. Haha, the magic is just not there anymore, it just feels like synthetic euphoria, like methamphetamine. It's not like that whole lovey dovey, The universe is okay, nothing could possibly go wrong, type feeling.

Now it's just "oh this feels good.....I'm very thirsty". So not worth it anymore IMO, I still try molly every once in a while, and it's fun and all but it's not even close to what I used to feel. I don't know which drugs I've done more of, opiates or MDMA, it's gotta be a damn close tie.

To say I've done a lot of MDMA would be an understatement. I have been out of that scene for quite some time now though. Definitely avoid it if bipolar.

That really does answer my question.
Have you lost any of the "magic" on opiates? Or has that just been consistently nice through the years?
Bipolar or not, if someone wanted to keep the magic of MDMA alive as long as possible, how often would you suggest they wait per roll? (minimum that is.)

dont forget what MDMA stands for.

methylene
dioxy
METH
AMPHETAMINE

but definitely avoid ANY and ALL stimulants. I would even avoid caffeine and such.

Yeah, but it is so different from your typical amphetamines, which I'm sure you're aware of.
As far as stimulation goes, I agree with you, it's obviously not a smart choice.
But in all actuality, there would be absolutely no way for me to life my life or even try living my life avoiding caffeine : P

Despite my usage of drugs for certain situations, I am still generally a healthy person.
I'll just see how I feel next time coming down from MDMA.

 

[RorerQuaalude714]

I would definitely avoid MDMA if you have bipolar.

^+1

I can't emphasize it enough to avoid MDMA if you're bipolar. It's a disaster waiting to happen, be it during the actual drug experience itself or the crash. Either way, your mood is at major risk for (hypo)mania or a mixed episode.

 

[JarBag]

Yeah, it probably would be a great idea to not. But I did it last month and am going to do it tomorrow, the same pure batch.
I had an afterglow, I had no comedown at all, just a more positive outlook on life knowing that you could feel that nice.
Maybe I got lucky, but to me, some things are just worth it.

Really, as of now I'm mostly just avoiding addicting substances\ones that will most likely cause psychosis (not just an episode after.)
I suppose if I was trying my hardest to dodge an episode I would cease all drug use. But at this current time, I'm planning to do so.

 

[DooMMooD]

If you're bipolar you're in no way shape or form in a position to be taking drugs and staying 'healthy".

If you're wondering which drugs could exacerbate the condition the answer is: any and all of them can and probably will.

As someone else said the vast majority of bipolar people end up with substance abuse problems. Take it from me first hand: only doing opiates, or this/that drug will not save you. In fact its probably just digging your own grave.

Psychosis isn't even my biggest concern for you. Psychosis aside, do you really wanna risk a giant upper "crash" coinciding with one of your already majorly depressive episodes? Or to run out of opiates at that time? Odds are one day after the effects of a drug wears off (either an upper 'crash' or the downers wear off and that 'edge' comes back) you will slip into one of your depressive moods and possibly off yourself. I've seen others (and myself) on the verge of suicide when the drugs wear off and just so happen to be thrown into an episode of depression simultaneously.

Opiate withdrawal/upper crash simultaneously with bipolar depression is a recipe for suicide.

 

[JarBag]

I mean, I usually only do uppers when feeling good (normal.) In fact, the only upper I've ever done on purpose is MDMA.
I plan to keep it that way. I only do it when feeling 'stable.' I know what the consequences of it will be when feeling too good or bad. But to me, sometimes a bit of stability thrown off for a couple weeks is fine by me if it means getting to use something that enhances my life and fixes friendships and benefits to my optimism even when depressed. Then it's a risk I'm willing to take.

As far as opiates go? Just a nice buzz maybe once a month from a painkiller.

I don't abuse in manic or depressive episodes much anymore (maybe more lorazepam and weed, possibly.) However, I do "use" when feeling stable.

I'm actually the friend that is explaining to my friends what is happening to their brain when about to do drugs, and how they should be safe and not overdo it.