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Anxiety - UK Doctors Will Prescribe ANYTHING BUT Anti-Anxiety Meds

Isn't it interesting that medicinal chemists are the one's LEAST keen to take a medication. It's because they know that it's idiots JJUST like them who developed the medicine, how dodgy animal studies are and how a grain of statistics are used to hide a mountain of problems, chemical engineers are all mad and formulation chemistry is the domain of kids who eat crayons.
 
I was looking into all that stuff about cognitive deficits etc over time due to benzo use and it was very sobering. I knew about all that but had conveniently pushed it to the back of my mind.

What I wasn't aware of during my last unsuccessful and hellish benzo abstinence of 6 months was the PWS can last anything from 3 months (if you're extremely lucky) to 4 years!! Shocking that fucking with GABA can take that long for the brain and body to recover. I simply didn't give it long enough last time.

What's worse is that even my normal baseline before I ever started benzos was highly anxious and stressy, plus I don't readily have all the thick skin to cope with all the social difficulties that Autism causes. And all that is going to seem much worse if I was to give up the comfort blanket that benzos provide.

If I was to quit I'd possibly be unemployable during PWS, however long that may last. And then a lengthy term of unemployment can make it very difficult to ever get back into work.

So it seems that I have some very compelling reasons for not wanting to quit. Weighing everything up it's hard to decide if my mental health and life situation would be better or worse in the long run.
 
AlsoTapered said:
Isn't it interesting that medicinal chemists are the one's LEAST keen to take a medication. It's because they know that it's idiots JJUST like them who developed the medicine, how dodgy animal studies are and how a grain of statistics are used to hide a mountain of problems, chemical engineers are all mad and formulation chemistry is the domain of kids who eat crayons.
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Lol, anyone who knows anything about science to that level are generally wary about medication and pretty much anything we eat/drink/breathe in.

Talking about animal studies and medicine, lol. Take a little dive into how your ingredients in food are certified safe and passed. 😉

(Ps I’m sure you’ve seen I’ve an eating disorder, a large part due to trauma of course but there’s a part due to the fact food is toxic as fuck.)
 
MsDiz said:
Lol, anyone who knows anything about science to that level are generally wary about medication and pretty much anything we eat/drink/breathe in.

Talking about animal studies and medicine, lol. Take a little dive into how your ingredients in food are certified safe and passed. 😉

(Ps I’m sure you’ve seen I’ve an eating disorder, a large part due to trauma of course but there’s a part due to the fact food is toxic as fuck.)
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Heh, did you know that there is an acceptable level of insect body parts and rodent droppings in everything we eat?
 
Of course, some of the greatest didn't let it bother them too much. Look at R.B.Woodward.

Smoked, including in the lab (just turn your head away when working with Ether/THF), drank Scotch like it was going out of fashion and wrote in his diary that his new parking space meant it was only 52 steps to his lab (he detested exercise).

Got a Nobel Prize not for a specific synthesis, but because he was about 30 years ahead of everyone else. I mean, he developed retrosynthetic strategy, NMR and a host of other things that are a cornerstone of modern organic chemistry.

I guess he realized that we all die. He was dire afraid that his mind, his most precious possession would be lost so he didn't worry about other things.

That's why I always advise people that however great they might think they are, their will ALWAYS be someone better.

The ONLY genius I ever knew was Dr. Daniel Lednicer - Dan. He headed the Upjohn drug design laboratory and I'm proud to say that he considered me to be a friend. When he told me so, I think it was the proudest moment of my life. He would never give me the answer to a question he thought I would be able t o work out. One Email exchange was me '15?; Dan 'Yes'. And that was KEY to my subject. An no, it wasn't 'what's 3 x 5'.
 
AlsoTapered said:
Of course, some of the greatest didn't let it bother them too much. Look at R.B.Woodward.

Smoked, including in the lab (just turn your head away when working with Ether/THF), drank Scotch like it was going out of fashion and wrote in his diary that his new parking space meant it was only 52 steps to his lab (he detested exercise).

Got a Nobel Prize not for a specific synthesis, but because he was about 30 years ahead of everyone else. I mean, he developed retrosynthetic strategy, NMR and a host of other things that are a cornerstone of modern organic chemistry.

I guess he realized that we all die. He was dire afraid that his mind, his most precious possession would be lost so he didn't worry about other things.
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So he wouldn’t have taken omeprazole either then eh? 😜
 
I had no idea omeprazole was that fucked up if you use it more then two weeks... why is this not being told to people when its a fucking OTC.... its like telling someone to keep taking Tylenol until you feel better, fuck your liver
 
Because, my friend, the PUBLIC IS the Stage 4 trial aka 'pharmacovigilance'. There are so MANY medications that cause 'idiopathic side-effects'. All idiopathic means is 'we don't know why - YET' and it's the failing to bother doing so if it's not to the makers financial advantage that is why I do not work in that industry.

I saw it first-hand at Boots Laboratories when it was pointed out that sibutramine was VERY likely to be a neurotoxin... and the person who said it lost their placement. Little comfort that they were proven correct.
 
Bleaney said:
I was looking into all that stuff about cognitive deficits etc over time due to benzo use and it was very sobering. I knew about all that but had conveniently pushed it to the back of my mind.

What I wasn't aware of during my last unsuccessful and hellish benzo abstinence of 6 months was the PWS can last anything from 3 months (if you're extremely lucky) to 4 years!! Shocking that fucking with GABA can take that long for the brain and body to recover. I simply didn't give it long enough last time.

What's worse is that even my normal baseline before I ever started benzos was highly anxious and stressy, plus I don't readily have all the thick skin to cope with all the social difficulties that Autism causes. And all that is going to seem much worse if I was to give up the comfort blanket that benzos provide.

If I was to quit I'd possibly be unemployable during PWS, however long that may last. And then a lengthy term of unemployment can make it very difficult to ever get back into work.

So it seems that I have some very compelling reasons for not wanting to quit. Weighing everything up it's hard to decide if my mental health and life situation would be better or worse in the long run.
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Bleaney, is there an autism support group in your area?

It's possible to manage these conditions without feeling you have to drug yourself every day. Help is out there. You can talk to any of us. <3
 
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