Antidepressants Could Make Your Brain Bleed, Cause Hemorrhagic Strokes

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Thickened arteries, heart disease, depression, suicide, and now, we can add bleeding of the brain to the long list of side effects of antidepressants. Though the risk is admittedly very small, researchers declared on Wednesday that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) may raise the risk of hemorrhagic strokes, which happen when the brain bleeds.

SSRIs include a wide variety of common antidepressents, including Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, and Paxil. These drugs are also linked to an increased risk of stomach bleeding.

Platelets Can’t Clot, Hemorrhage

After analyzing 16 previous studies involving over 500,000 patients, researchers determined that SSRI users were 40 to 50 percent more likely to suffer bleeding of or around the brain. The researchers were not, however, able to collect other relevant data, like subjects’ smoking and drinking habits, diet, and whether they had diabetes. Their findings were published in the journal Neurology.

Although lead researcher Dr. Daniel G. Hackam of Western University in London, Ontario says that we “can’t infer cause and effect from this,” it isn’t exactly an unreasonable association. Blood cells (platelets) have difficulty clumping and clotting in the presence of SSRIs, causing the patient’s platelet function to stumble soon after taking SSRIs. This may be why patients experienced the greatest risk of hemorrhage within the first few months of taking the drugs.

People already at risk of brain hemorrhage would do well to stay away from SSRIs, Hackam added, as well as those on medications that reduce clotting like Coumadin or an aspirin-Plavix combination.

Psychiatrists and Financial Conflicts of Interest

It’s worth noting that Hackam also says that these drugs are, overall, “quite safe.” Perhaps he’s neglected to look at the Emory University School of Medicine’s findings that antidepressants thickened arteries 400 percent more than aging, which is the foremost factor of athersclerosis. Still other studies indicate that Cymbalta and other antidepressants cause 1 in 5 patients to feel worse than when administered placebos.

Why, then, are so many patients treated with powerful psychotactive drugs instead of a personalized combination of vitamin D, probiotis, diet, acupuncture, yoga, and other natural remedies? Perhaps because 70 percent of panel members to the 5th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders have financial ties to pharmaceutical companies.

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http://www.activistpost.com/2012/10/antidepressants-could-make-your-brain.html
 
SSRIs are the most over/mis prescribed drugs out there IMO.

THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS. THIS.. THIZZ?


have SSRIs even helped ANYONE? They cause long term, irreversible serotonin down-regulation, and can cause suicidal feelings in people. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything about how SSRIs helped them. Most people either just take them because they're supposed too, or take them and have a horrible reaction too it.


We don't even know how the serotonin system really works.. and we're trying to modify it with chemicals? SMFH
 
^fully and completely agree. theyre mass-marketed, over produced pieces of shit and i think they should be banned from the market. their reputability is based on politics and placebo alone. nothing more. sounds weird, but i feel more comfortable depressed and anxious than medicated.
 
have SSRIs even helped ANYONE?


We don't even know how the serotonin system really works.. and we're trying to modify it with chemicals? SMFH

yes.

and yet the same could be said about all psychoactive drugs used for similar purpose.

i feel more comfortable depressed and anxious than medicated.

on everything or just regarding SSRIs?
 
probably everything. its become almost normalized in my experience. just learned to live with it. never tried SSRIs for a lot of reasons...
 
and yet the same could be said about all psychoactive drugs used for similar purpose.

Oh, of course. But we don't try and sell those drugs as a cure for being fucking unhappy... well, some do, but not like the men in white coats.

Depression is a normal part of life, you get over it, and it makes you stronger... except people are too fucking lazy these days to get over it, so they wallow in pain for the rest of their lives.
 
Depression is a normal part of life, you get over it, and it makes you stronger... except people are too fucking lazy these days to get over it, so they wallow in pain for the rest of their lives.

I think this is an over generalization. I do believe some people are clinically depressed but I also feel that most don't need SSRIs. I don't think you should get them just because your sad but some people do suffer crippling depression. I really wish it was as simple as "getting over it" I really do. I think these drugs can benefit some 1% of the population.
 
I posted in another thread that my friend developed lupus from taking cymbalta. She's fine now but it turns out that's one of the rare side effects. Not good!

One of celexa's rare side effects is thyroid cancer.

I would avoid SSRIs unless you are in crisis, and even then take them short term only!
 
this supports the idea that the other shit really isn't the "safe alternative" to narcotic meds. they are in a way, but not as much as they tell you. for instance, take trazadone to sleep and it's safer than ambien/lunesta? trazadone is a serious drug, even if the "high" is not known to be coveted by drug users. you are putting shit into your system that builds up like toxins in a lake.

anti-psychs esp. are some hardcore shit. i think the important thing here is taking them as precribed and knowing what you are taking, and finding what works. all this risk-dodging they do is pointless sometimes. =|
 
My girlfriends been on all variety of these things and they all only make her worse. Her mom on the other hand benefits from them, whether it's real or a placebo I will never know, but she's happy with them.

My poor girlfriend she gets suicidal they give her something she gets better then worse then stops taking them and withdrawals. If only heroin would be a long term thing then we would both be happy all the time :(

But then again the heroin causes the same exact cycle hmmm....
 
I posted in another thread that my friend developed lupus from taking cymbalta. She's fine now but it turns out that's one of the rare side effects. Not good!

One of celexa's rare side effects is thyroid cancer.

I would avoid SSRIs unless you are in crisis, and even then take them short term only!

And what of the prevalence?
 
Oh, of course. But we don't try and sell those drugs as a cure for being fucking unhappy... well, some do, but not like the men in white coats.

Depression is a normal part of life, you get over it, and it makes you stronger... except people are too fucking lazy these days to get over it, so they wallow in pain for the rest of their lives.

Part of depression is lack of motivation, lethargy and apathy.. If you can just get up and get over it's probably not depression.. it's being down (normally about something)..
 
Depression is a normal part of life, you get over it, and it makes you stronger... except people are too fucking lazy these days to get over it, so they wallow in pain for the rest of their lives.

wrong. if depression were a normal part of life, it wouldnt hospitalize people nor would it be classified as a mental disorder. youre confusing suffering with depression. suffering is as normal and universal as drinking water. depression is a biological response in less than 25% of the population. im guessing from your post that you have you never experienced it. therefore you really have no credibility on the issue.
 
Folley has bipolar iirc.

Depression is a pretty complicated issue. Some people get depressed, get angry at themselves, self harm but then eventually can motivate themselves to sort it out. Other people get depressed, lose all motivation and see no reason to try and sort it out or even to live. It's different for everyone.

Still, fuck SSRIs.
 
Much of what I'm reading in this thread is anecdotal, non-fact based rambling.

Big pharma is bad. We should all become Scientologists and give up medicine, right?

SSRI's saved my life. Some of you in here think that depression is merely a small hurdle that all people should be able to jump over on a whim. It's not. For many it is a brick fucking wall. I'm not going to share my diagnosis on the public forum but some of you need to show some compassion for people who have not been as fortunate as you to be a healthy fucking know-it-all.

So you're bipolar and don't use meds, big fucking deal. For every person who has a major depressive or affective disorder and can make it without meds, there is a hundred who simply cannot do it.
 
while i agree that SSRI's are over-prescribed and do not help many they are prescribed to (myself included - prescribed prozac which drove me suicidal and even more anxious, moved to estitalopram that did the same although by that time i was dosed up on many benzos and pregabalin so didn't realize until coming off them) there are some that benefit from the use of them.

for example, a friends aunt had cancer, being treated with chemo and succesfully having the tumour removed she seemed fine. about a week later she entered a terrible phase of depression that had come on through the chemo - she took the anti-depressants for 3 months, came off them and was back to her old happy self, and still is to this day.

SSRI's are handed out like candy to get people to display further "problems" (in a psyciatric setting), to prescribe more medication and get more fees. it's horrifying but true.

in some cases however they are life savers. but which is the lesser of two evils i suppose?
 
wrong. if depression were a normal part of life, it wouldnt hospitalize people nor would it be classified as a mental disorder. youre confusing suffering with depression. suffering is as normal and universal as drinking water. depression is a biological response in less than 25% of the population. im guessing from your post that you have you never experienced it. therefore you really have no credibility on the issue.

I have manic depression. I often go through mood swings, sometimes severe. I've gone from crying, to being angry, to laughing, to feeling scared and then I repeat the process all over again. I've contemplated suicide many times as well. I'm certainly a depressed individual, and used to be in a place where I felt I couldn't go on with life no matter what I did.

and you know what? I got over it. I stopped letting it rule my life. I realized I had other options that to just sit and wallow in pain.. sure, I'm still sad over a lot of things, but that doesn't mean I can't still be happy about the rest of them.


People rely on drugs to get them out of a natural problem in many peoples lives, but they should be relying on themselves. SSRIs and other ADs just cover up the symptoms, they don't attack the cause.
 
I think there's truth as well as ignorance in what you say.

If you are experiencing horrible symptoms despite your apparent enlightened way of looking at your issue, what does that tell you?

One can not simply get over anything through will, much less a biological inconsistency, a common misconception a la that one can do whatever they set there mind to, or, though this analogy stretches the bill a bit, as doubtless i'm sure you've heard, that if one works hard enough they will become rich.

What you are trying to say is that you're not letting it rule over you. You're a functional human who has learned to manage your illness. Yet for one you still have an illness which you state causes you pain. And for two there is simply no way to accurately gauge or compare the mental illnesses of others against your own in terms of severity.

Yes we know that, notwithstanding the occasional revelation from a hallucinogenic substance, psychoactive drugs do not solve problems after one use. Even regarding a fantastic trip, the drug was only a part of the cocktail, not a cure in and of itself. That other part is of course you, the sentient being. I think you see this potential that many abscond, taking the form in this conversation of an ability to make the most of ones situation despite a malady. Tapping this second part no doubt has proven useful for yourself, but as indicated it can't solve everyone's problem, and hasn't your own.

Now I ask you, if a drug can be taken regularly for a problem, does it really just cover up symptoms, or is it a cure? What's the difference if one is under its influence constantly.

I know that psychiatry is concerned with attacking symptoms, not causes. Yet when is the point where doctor and patient say "there is no reasonable cause for this depression other than a biological malfunction"? I can tell you that the medical profession giving patients the benefit of the doubt in probably over-prescribing is not just bad. It makes sure that some don't fall through the cracks. I feel that this generous approach is for the best. Yet I hear you loud and clear: people need to do more in confronting there illness. They must change their habits before reaching for a pill bottle. Exercise, CBT, meditation, and a healthy diet are just starting points.
 
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