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Anticipation high

I absolutely get this, especially before MDMA. I can need a shit just thinking about a night out. I've been sick loads of times, before dropping. I've gagged and instantly thrown up loads of pills. I put it down to my anxiety going into overdrive, in anticipation. It seems it also happens to people without anxiety, but MDMA seems to be the most common drug for this to happen with. Loads of mates are the same, mainly ones who have hammered it. I think your brain starts releasing serotonin, etc. before dropping, so you get the side effects early. Once you're up, it seems to fuck off. It is definitely anticipation of what is coming. The same way you can make your body tingle, like MDMA would, by listening to the right music. I'm sure others get this too. Placebo at its best.

I find things go better when you've not spent a week thinking about it, and it just happens. In a way, it feels like my brain hates MDMA, on an unconscious level. I'm not surprised.
 
Mela said:
Well, 'anticipation high' was the term used. That's dopamine firing in anticipation of the reward (it fires as a predictor, increases arousal etc). This also induces cravings - which are often not pleasant (anxiety-laden dysphoria). It's really just basic pavlovian conditioning - ring bell, dog salivates. Show needle etc, addict craves.
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^This.

The dopamine that gets released in anticipation also affects the bowels, causing the anticipating person to fart & making them need to take a shit.
F&B explained all this a few years ago.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Theories? As mine apply to a definite altering of consciousness (the way I do those drugs is anyway) I often think its the last throes of a straight ego that knows its about to be blasted away.

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Are you always calm and confident that your ego will return one way or the other, either smashed up and ruined or rooted steadfastly? (These are my worries about tripping. Is an ego a good or even necessary thing anyway.We cant all be Alpha Males)
 
Acid4Blood said:
^This.

The dopamine that gets released in anticipation also affects the bowels, causing the anticipating person to fart & making them need to take a shit.
F&B explained all this a few years ago.
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"The dopamine that gets released in anticipation also affects the bowels, causing the anticipating person to fart & making them need to take a shit." That could aslo due to be due to adrenaline and fear
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Are you always calm and confident that your ego will return one way or the other, either smashed up and ruined or rooted steadfastly? (These are my worries about tripping. Is an ego a good or even necessary thing anyway.We cant all be Alpha Males)
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I use the word 'ego' to refer to the straight mind, normal-waking-consciousness. It's no use labelling it as a good or bad thing. It's part of what we are, a very large part of what we are without drugs. Hey, it helps us cross roads safely.

From this, logically, you can see why I never have any anxiety about it returning. That mofo always comes back.

mydrugbuddy said:
"The dopamine that gets released in anticipation also affects the bowels, causing the anticipating person to fart & making them need to take a shit." That could aslo due to be due to adrenaline and fear
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Yes. I think adrenaline plays a large part too. In what we're talking about, far more than dopamine. But that's just my unscientific educated guess.
 
I get this from mdma, meph, coke and any other rc stim really. It's a real pain because it makes me really uncomfortable dosing at a rave

edit - But I normally sort this with alcohol or benzos before I dose mandy
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Are you always calm and confident that your ego will return one way or the other, either smashed up and ruined or rooted steadfastly? (These are my worries about tripping. Is an ego a good or even necessary thing anyway.We cant all be Alpha Males)
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Yeah i get concerned about that these days, pushed the limits far too many times thought id end up in a nuthouse a few times lost myself, seem to still have my head screwed on, worst i got was mild PTSD and seen split second images of random shit days later. but it can break a person, always to treat with respect which is something i stupidly never used to properly do, taught me a lesson
 
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