Harm Reduction Anticholinergic Cognitive Burden

[daturetard]

The anticholinergic cognitive burden (or acbcalc.com) is a measurement of how burdened an individual is by the psychiatric (or other) medicine they are perscribed (or take otherwise).

Any score equal to or above a three puts a patient as substantial risk of falls, brain damage, blackouts, and memory loss as well as general delerium. I'm posting this because a while back, my friend and I were talking about how fucked over mentally his medicine made him feel.

He was on 7.5 or ten mgs of aripiprazole, as well as Prozac (25-50mg, maybe?), both semi anticholinergic. And get this, they put him on a pretty high dose of hydroxyzine.

Hydroxyzine has a score of three by its self. I then had him show the fact that his score was a 5 (or six?) to his shitty shrink, and she cut is AP dose to 5 mg and completely took him off hydroxyzine.

I appreciate how quickly she accepted/realized she fucked up, but its not like she apologized. I really think it's disgusting that psychiatrists in the USA, a developed country, know less about the dangers of the drugs they prescribe than an average self educated junkie.
Update: ACB Calc changed the value of hydroxyzine... to one?? This doesn't make sense to me as it has a similar-but stronger at H1- binding profile to benadryl, which scores a three... the Ki value for diphenhydramine is 9.6-16, which is weaker than the 2.0-19 value of hydroxyzine.

 

[Dextro .45]

Bupropion (Wellbutrin) has anticholinergic properties......after a year of treatment I noticed cognitive impairment....words on the tip of your tongue etc.

Acetylcholine is a super important neurotransmitter.....the "learning neurotransmitter"

You can take Choline supplements and other methods to improve the side effects caused.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I really think it's disgusting that psychiatrists in the USA, a developed country, know less about the dangers of the drugs they prescribe than an average self educated junkie.

This is so true, it's not even funny.

I gave up even trying their pysychiatric meds after Vraylar & clomipramine fucked me up to the point where I lost my ability to drive for a week due to the vertigo & brain fog I received on the vraylar. And ended up in the ER with mild-moderate serotonin syndrome after using clomipramine for only 2 days.

First of all, I'm not even psychotic, so putting me on something like vraylar is just a ticket to worse depression. And obviously my depression isn't even serotonin related or I wouldn't get SS so easily from just a few doses of SNRIs.

I've been through it all, zoloft, effexor, welbutrin, mirtazipine, prozac, abilify, vraylar, topomax, clomipramine, etc..etc... All of it fucks with me either right at the start or not long after. One of my doctors had me on 13 different meds AT THE SAME TIME. Thankfully I knew better than to take all of them. I don't know how they expect people to consume these things on a daily basis without ending up with more problems.

 

[daturetard]

I don't know how they expect people to consume these things on a daily basis without ending up with more problems.

They don't. You make so much more money treating the problems you caused in the first place.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

They don't. You make so much more money treating the problems you caused in the first place.

True. I see doctors like this as evil now. This same doctor talks about how she's against marijuanna, but has no problem putting me on 13 unnecessary medications at one time. It's incredible.

 

[daturetard]

True. I see doctors like this as evil now. This same doctor talks about how she's against marijuanna, but has no problem putting me on 13 unnecessary medications at one time. It's incredible.

Yeah, the absurdity of handing out mentally debilitating pills like candy, to children none the less, while simultaneously spewing that Reagan era sort of bullshit is not lost on me, though it apparently is on doctors. Fuck an oath.