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Anti-CHrist

pirates_ said:
By the way, I am not a christian, I am a satanist, but a true satanist does not believe in heaven or hell, or punishment in the after life. Life is our heaven and hell. I dont think a god created us, i think we are either "evolved bacteria" or maybe even a species created by an advanced alien race., but what I am getting at here is that their are truly evil people out there. I used the term anti christ in order to desribe a person who can influence in such a manner that they can be only described as anti-christ.
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I think you are deranged.
 
Im not religious, but the topic interest me a lot, so let me share my thoughts. This is taken from hinduism... lovely religion.

According to the hindus, Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu, the god of righteousness who we may call the supreme Lord, was Christ. Ive read a lot of articles about the coming, last incarnation of Vishnu, called Kalki and he is supposed to come at the end of the time cycle we currently are living in, Kali Yuga, by destroying evil in this world. It isnt supposed to end until many years ahead, but lots of people agree about that we are nearing an end of it. 2012 anyone?

THe most interesting part is that I read the second coming of Christ will incarnate with Kalki, to do the job together. Ironically, Christ is all for peace and diplomacy while Kalki is much for bloody slaughtering of people, which must be done because true evil in this world has reached point of no return. What if they will start fighting eachother, because Jesus can't stand the violent behaviour of Kalki? What if actually Kalki, the brother of Christ, turns out to be the anti-christ. That would mean the anti-christ isn't some evil bastard, rather a punisher.

The thought is pretty weird, but this is just what I think. Oh, and did I mention Kalki is actually referred to as "The Machine-man"? Makes me think he may be a cyborg... or robot? 8o
 
Foreigner said:
Oh the anti-Christ... Christianity's boogey man. Every generation someone is being accused of being one, just like every generation has its sure-fire apocalypses that never end up happening. The whole good/evil paradigm is so tired. There is no Satan and there is no Hell. In the Old Testament, Hell is simply the absence of God. In other words, when you deny God from your life, you live in Hell. That's it. No fire, no brimstone, nothing. Everyone is inherently good and everyone gets into heaven - no exceptions. Even the worst of the worst (as humans) get into heaven (as souls).

You make heaven or hell right in the here and now depending on your own perceptions. No waiting!

As for the anti-Christ... there have been plenty of horrible atrocities already committed by people, most of them unimaginable. You can take any given dictator or key player in those events and suggest they were the anti-Christ for tipping the scales toward suffering and chaos; but the truth is that they were human, just like you and I. The idea of an anti-Christ keeps you a fearful customer of the Church. If Jesus didn't talk about an anti-Christ then I don't care what some fanatic said 200 years later about it. Having a Christ and an anti-Christ was some poor sap's inevitable analogy to good and evil. If Christ is pure good, then surely there must be a character representing pure evil, right? Every story's gotta have one, even Hollywood knows this!

These opposing forces DO NOT EXIST. It's a false duality that enslaves billions of people's minds. You are with God right now. The connection is always there. You don't go to heaven when you die, you are one with divinity this very moment. You're already perfect and worthy.
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Woah thats really interesting, Id like to use that info in debates I have with christians (theyre friendly ones) could you maybe please point me in the right direction to where it says hell is just the absence of god
 
Foreigner said:
Oh the anti-Christ... Christianity's boogey man. Every generation someone is being accused of being one, just like every generation has its sure-fire apocalypses that never end up happening. The whole good/evil paradigm is so tired. There is no Satan and there is no Hell. In the Old Testament, Hell is simply the absence of God. In other words, when you deny God from your life, you live in Hell. That's it. No fire, no brimstone, nothing. Everyone is inherently good and everyone gets into heaven - no exceptions. Even the worst of the worst (as humans) get into heaven (as souls).

You make heaven or hell right in the here and now depending on your own perceptions. No waiting!

As for the anti-Christ... there have been plenty of horrible atrocities already committed by people, most of them unimaginable. You can take any given dictator or key player in those events and suggest they were the anti-Christ for tipping the scales toward suffering and chaos; but the truth is that they were human, just like you and I. The idea of an anti-Christ keeps you a fearful customer of the Church. If Jesus didn't talk about an anti-Christ then I don't care what some fanatic said 200 years later about it. Having a Christ and an anti-Christ was some poor sap's inevitable analogy to good and evil. If Christ is pure good, then surely there must be a character representing pure evil, right? Every story's gotta have one, even Hollywood knows this!

These opposing forces DO NOT EXIST. It's a false duality that enslaves billions of people's minds. You are with God right now. The connection is always there. You don't go to heaven when you die, you are one with divinity this very moment. You're already perfect and worthy.
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This makes allot of sense. Like the idea of "God" could really be this universe that we are in. So we are a part of the whole. And the whole = god. So in essence, we are, in part, "God". It's a hard idea to grasp, that's for sure. I had a recent DXM trip that showed me this way of thinking. The Report
 
The interesting thing is that islam hinduism buddhism Juudaism and maybe even zoroastrianism are all waiting for a messianic figure. Maitreya has been cited as being a likely candidate.

It wouldnt be surprising if it all converged into one universal planetary saviour. Whether or not you believe in the revelation account is important here too. If you do then it follows that this messianic figure will be the incarnation of evil. If you dont then at some point in the future the "messianic world religions" (ones expecting a messiah) will probably jointly inaugurate a new messiah. Christians will call him the anti christ while everyone else (even the atheists) will have will have altogether more positive thoughts on the brain.

The point is, to the people under their jurisdiction the antichrist(S) are hailed as saviours while to everyone else they are the epitomy of evil. As a Christian perhaps you could propose that hitler napoleon etc were inhabited by the spirit of antichrist if you will. These men could be described as anti-prophets precluding the ultimate anti christ
 
The Anti-Christ.
The opposite polar force of the coin, the fallen angel before the eternal temple.
It's all just a way of justifying the nature of it all in unity.
The Christian Bible is so skewed by now, don't waste your time.

But, personally, I don't believe in an anti-Christ, if anything it's just an image attached to a very powerful emotion; Fear.
I mean, I could easily pitch the blame on George Bush. (Oh, and I'm sure that's already been done.)
The anti-Christ is whoever you make it out to be.
 
Insides go with outsides, up goes with down, foreground goes with background, black goes with white.

The antichrist is mental construct useful only to those playing the game of "white must win", they have set themselves an insoluble problem, they are trying to arrange the universe so that everything is up, and it just cannot be done, I recognize the game they are playing, it's the duality fear game and I feel that if people want to play it that is perfectly OK, they will have a great deal of frustration and anxiety until they one day figure it out and relax, have a good laugh at themselves and sigh a huge sigh, Nirvana.

Nirvana means "Breath Out" the big sigh that comes with the realization that black goes with white and has to for anything to exist at all, some people see that as plainly obvious and drop all their hang ups, others get trapped in the game for a while, it's all OK, A fool who persists in his folly will eventually become wise, that is the basis for all fundamental Zen teachings, the people who don't see that have to go on with the white must win game until they break, it's very cool and I've stopped getting annoyed or frustrated with religious folks, they should be applauded for playing such a far out game.
 
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