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My mate's a bit worried about his vomiting during the come-up - last time he rolled was the first time he spewed, and the roll turned out quite weak. What's the best way to stop it? From what I've read it seems to be the use of antacids, but is it possible they could have a reaction with MDMA and weaken the peak? Thanks guys.
 
umm many anti-depressants will weaken a roll... as far as the vomiting goes, have him try tums or alkaseltzer for his stomach
 
Try a breathing exercise....

deap breaths in and out stop me feeling nauseous on the come-up.

or talkin to a mate about something.... makes me forget i feel sick.
 
AznHangukBoi said:
umm many anti-depressants will weaken a roll...
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where did he mention anything about antidepresants?

As far as his actual question, I'm not sure. I know there are a fair number of people on here who have different methods. Try a search, as the topic has been covered many times.
 
I usually eat tums all day long even when im not planning to roll but when i do i eat them still but last time i rolled i got a very pure but to much MDMA pill and right on the comeup i felt nasea went to throw up but it was just air did it about 5 times nothing came out but i felt beter afterwords i hear of a lot of people hurling on comeup from bomb pills but if you feel like ur gonna throw up ur pill which ive never done even when throwing up 15 min after taking it i still rolled balls try and hold it back for atleast 25 to 30 min which then most of it will be digested specially when using tums it digest much quicker
 
orderedelite said:
where did he mention anything about antidepresants?

As far as his actual question, I'm not sure. I know there are a fair number of people on here who have different methods. Try a search, as the topic has been covered many times.
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i was just saying that they COULD weaken the roll if his friend had been on any or something because he was asking if antacids could weaken the roll.
 
I raised the issue about antacids weakening the high some time ago, and it's still an open question. Some people find that if taken too close to the pill they may negate the pill, but other people have not had the same problem.

Try having an antacid an hour or so before, that has never caused me any problems and seems to help calm my stomach.
 
I think that if antiacids really do stop people feeling sick when dropping, the only explanation is because the antiacid is slowing the MDMA absorbtion... BUT, I don't really think antiacids do help stop people being sick, I think its just the placebo effect. I mean, feeling sick from MDMA should have nothing to do with stomach acid.
 
True, but you never know what else is in pills. People report that oral meth can make their stomach feel strange. I don't know what effect caffeine has on the stomach in that regard.
 
My sister-inlaw always pukes on "E" within 30-40 minutes after dropping, once while drinking Gatoraide she barfed on my foot and the stain is still on the rug. Best to check the vomit for any undissolved chunks of the bean so you can rinse it off and take it later ...... ha , yum8o
 
Make sure to eat a bit before you roll. From experience rolling on an empty stomach is what makes me vomit.
 
i just signed up to post in this thread...

ok, if ur on anti-depressants DONT take e.
this is taken from http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health.shtml perhaps some of u should read about the drugs ur taking before u take them. it could save ur life.

Do not take MDMA if you are currently taking prescription MAOIs. MAOIs are most commonly found in the prescription anti-depressants Nardil (phenelzine), Parnate (tranylcypromine), Marplan (isocarboxazid), Eldepryl (l-deprenyl), and Aurorix / Manerix (moclobemide). Ayahuasca also contains MAOIs (harmine and harmaline). MDMA and MAOIs are a potentially dangerous combination.
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although brendan was talking about antacids, aznboi mentioned anti-depressants. antacids r fine thou. i was under a different impression about them however. the acids in ur stomach eat up the mdma, so u dont feel the full effects of it. antacids turn the acid into alkaline, so now theres less acids in ur stomach. hence u should feel more effects from the pill. ive never tried this however, so i duno if its right or not.

also, if uve just eaten before taking the pill, then it will take longer for it to come into effect, and u may not get the full effects either.
if u r having the problem of spewing, then try only taking half a pill at a time. if ur a junkie and want more then orally take half and snort half or something. u only spew by taking it orally cuz it settles in ur stomach.
 
Thats actaully not the case. IM injections of MDMA also lead to nausea
 
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?postid=912507#post912509

B. Why do I get nauseous or vomit?
MDMA-related nausea has a number of causes:
Inhibited digestion – The more blood your body sends to your muscles to do their work (dancing, running around, etc), the less blood will be sent to your gastrointestinal tract to do its work. This inhibits digestion, meaning that whatever you are eating/drinking is more or less amassing in your stomach.

Dehydration – Dehydration can trigger queasiness, either because your body is in distress or because the dehydration is exasperating already present problems.

Bodily distress – When your body senses that it’s in trouble, digestion quickly falls down the list of autonomic priorities.

Flood of serotonin - The majority of the serotonin receptor sites in your body are located in your digestive system. The flood of serotonin that reaches these sites (5HT3 sites) may cause nausea or vomiting.


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VelocideX...I don't understand why an antacid would weaken the effect. It seems to me that it would strengthen the effect. Ecstasy is a base...and therefore only a very small percentage of it absorbs in the stomach lining....and therefore more than 99% of it absorbs in the intestinal lining. By increasing the pH of your stomach, more ecstasy can absorb in the stomach lining...and therefore LESS of the drug will go through the hepatic portal vein.
 
I did this once actually...and it seemed like the PepcidAC caused a small amount o fecstasy to have an unproprtionately large effect. This could have been placebo of course...because I was quite sure the PepcidAC would make me roll harder.
 
Antacids don't increase intestinal absorption because antacids don't alter the pH of to intestine very much. What they might do however, is give you a large dose of metal ions, which could a) slow down gastric motility and b) chelate with MDMA, forming an insoluble product.

Its just hypothetical, but we've seen quite a few posts in here where people say they took antacids and it weakened their roll.
 
i know with some brands of antacids, u have to take them at the right time. if u take urals 20min before u take a pill, then u wont feel the pill at all. but if u take it 1hour before the pill then u will be flying. they r all different. its hit or miss really.
 
I heard somewhere that grapefruit juice is a good way to prepare your stomach for pills.I think i heard that it turns the stomach more alkaline so theres less acid to destroy the pills active ingridients.Cheap and readily available too. So i tried it last night and i seemed to get a much stronger hit off my first pill.
Can anyone clarify this?
 
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