(Another) LSD Tolerance Question

[strawberry jam]

I apologize in advance for creating a new thread for this - I was reading an LSD subthread earlier today on my computer on dosage and tolerance, but I'm now on my phone writing this and can't seem to find the thread. A mod can merge this into that thread if he/she wants.

Anyway, my question:
I first took LSD at the end of April (1 1/2 hits, but the experience was mild as I had rolled the night before and I think the tabs had degraded a bit).

I had my first real acid trip on May 28 (2 hits, different batch, ++++ amazing mindblowing trip). On Tuesday evening, two days ago, I wanted to experience acid at a lower dose with the same batch and took 1 tab.

I want to candyflip with my boyfriend for the first time this upcoming Saturday, which is approximately four days after the "low dose" acid trip earlier this week (in quotations because it was a little stronger than expected, but nowhere near the insanity of a few weeks ago). We don't want the trip to be as intense as when we took 2 hits, especially because it'll synergize with the MDMA, so we're planning on 1 1/2.

Do I need to increase my dose to get the same effects as my boyfriend, who did not take acid four days ago? Or will the rapid tolerance be gone? If it's relevant, I am a 20-year-old female (90 pounds) and my bf and I are usually always on the same level when we take drugs together, even though he's not as tiny as me.

Thanks!

 

[strawberry jam]

Oh, and another unrelated question that I'll put in this thread...

All three times I've tripped (on acid, doesn't happen with mushrooms) I've had a really uncomfortable, bad taste in my mouth. Sort of like my mouth is producing too much saliva and so I'm swallowing a lot and my throat feels really weird. It feels and tastes gross. I really don't like it and it's worst during the comedown, occupies my thoughts like crazy and doesn't go away until I get a full night's sleep. Does anyone else experience this? Is there something I can do to make it go away?

Is there also a way to diminish the anxious feeling of excitement and anticipation that leads nowhere (causing me to not want to sit still, but nothing else really feels right either... again, it's somewhat uncomfortable), or is that a feeling that just comes with acid?

Thanks again.

 

[greenmeanies]

i would think you don't need to worry too much about tolerance.

as for the taste in your mouth, have you ever heard of gum, mints, candy, cough drops, lollipops, peanuts, gummi bears, etc etc etc... all of the above are really delicious while tripping, you should get your favorite candy and go to town. just remember to brush your teeth after a night of grinding and sugar, you don't want cavities.

 

[ChronicHD]

I sometimes get that taste in my mouth too. It has a sort of chemical feel to it. I don't think it's real, I just think that it's a perceived taste that you can either A) ignore. Or B) cover up with the taste of gum or candy.

 

[StingRei]

LOL, every time they say 'from the eight ball my mouth starts stinkin' in Boys In The Hood I always replace eight ball with shrooms or acid.

Funny thing is my first two acid experiences I do not remember experiencing the taste. I only ever got that taste from shrooms, and the most recent tabs of acid.

My mind never sets on to that taste though. I think it's odd that you focus on that taste so much while tripping. Bad idea. Eat sweets, forget about the taste, and enjoy your trip.

 

[strawberry jam]

I sometimes get that taste in my mouth too. It has a sort of chemical feel to it. I don't think it's real, I just think that it's a perceived taste that you can either A) ignore. Or B) cover up with the taste of gum or candy.

That sounds like what I'm tasting... Something chemical. I guess I'll try to cover it up with gum or candy next time because ignoring it doesn't seem to work. I get really fixated on it.

Now I want to candyflip today, which I'm assuming will mean I definitely will have some sort of remnant LSD tolerance from Tuesday. I don't know if I should take 2 tabs to get the effects of 1 1/2, because I don't want the trip to be at the same level of intensity it was at 2 hits and don't want to make the mistake of dosing too high. Is there a way to tell if my tolerance has gone up, or do I just have to chance it?

 

[strawberry jam]

My mind never sets on to that taste though. I think it's odd that you focus on that taste so much while tripping. Bad idea. Eat sweets, forget about the taste, and enjoy your trip.

Haha yeah. It's mostly during the come down though. I can taste it during the trip, but when I start coming down and feeling weird, I can't get over the taste... for at least two hours. I'm going to eat candy.

 

[ford442]

really - tolerance begins to disappear after like 48 hours - 48 hours after that i don't think you would have much physical tolerance at all - you will have just recently experienced the feelings - that can make it a tad less mind blowing.. but 1 1/2 tab idea sounds fine - i took X with one tab at a rave once and that was really wonderful - any more intense and i would have needed to hang onto the ground to keep from falling off...

tolerance to psychedelics is interesting.. it is not like your body is used to the chem - it uses up some of your neurotransmitter related chemicals and the brain has to even back out along with its receptor sites unlinking.. the following day i don't think any amount will make you trip - i have taken a strong dose to have it do nothing (back in teenage years)... it is the same deal with the medication i am on right now - i could eat 25 hits, 1/8th of shrooms, and 4 pills of E right now and i would feel a little giddy...

the taste thing sounds familiar to me.. once or twice i have brushed my teeth during a trip and that felt pretty nice.. especially the times i had been out all night with little water and no food and lots of smoking.. all psychedelics i have tried have effected my body strangely.. weird muscle feelings, stomach feelings, mouth and teeth feelings, lung feelings.. it is a fact that there is more to discover about how psychedelics work and what exactly they do to the body..

 

[Basic Base]

I agree, with good L after about 48-72 hours later, your tolerance should return to about normal. Taking L back-to-back days requires at least a double dosage to get any effects which will be quite minimal IME. Taking it all the time, like more than 4-5 times a month could increase tolerance I've found, but it doesn't sound like you have taken it that much.

 

[Delsyd]

you should be fine.

have a nice trip. Candyflipping with a loved is wonderful, im sure

 

[latac]

What's the deal with mushroom VS LSD

If I take LSD, have a trip and go to sleep 15h later (or something like that). and then take mushrooms 24h after LSD, what can I expect from the mushrooms? (no effect, lesser effect, same effect? etc.)

 

[Volundr]

In response to latac, as far as I'm aware taking mushrooms the next day would be fine as LSD isn't a definitive tryptamine, so there should be no cross tolerance.

And in response to Strawberry jam, I find the tolerance a few days after is all the luck of the draw, I've dosed on a tuesday then again on a friday and been fine, however I have also dosed on a wednesday and when i dosed again on the saturday I had absolutely nothing until about 10 hours in in which i had tiny CEVs, my friend on the otherhand was having a fantastic time the whole way through, so meh...can go either way.

 

[caseface99]

Oh, and another unrelated question that I'll put in this thread...

All three times I've tripped (on acid, doesn't happen with mushrooms) I've had a really uncomfortable, bad taste in my mouth. Sort of like my mouth is producing too much saliva and so I'm swallowing a lot and my throat feels really weird. It feels and tastes gross. I really don't like it and it's worst during the comedown, occupies my thoughts like crazy and doesn't go away until I get a full night's sleep. Does anyone else experience this? Is there something I can do to make it go away?

Is there also a way to diminish the anxious feeling of excitement and anticipation that leads nowhere (causing me to not want to sit still, but nothing else really feels right either... again, it's somewhat uncomfortable), or is that a feeling that just comes with acid?

Thanks again.

Is it only a taste, or can you smell it? Feel its presence? Because acid does that to me. The closest thing i have gotten to a real flashback is strongly smelling and tasting acid after taking a big hit of weed relatively recently after tripping, like within a few weeks. I usually smoke pot while tripping, so its probably some sort of mental trigger. Sort of like people who crave alcohol while rolling if thats what they usually do.

I very much enjoy this smell/taste/sense in general, so maybe its not what you're referring too. I don't think it tastes bad at all.

 

[TheAzo]

I generally get a metallicy taste in my mouth while tripping reasonably hard on any drug (2C-I, 2C-T-2, LSD and even 2C-D have all done this for me). To me, it's a sign of how hard i'm tripping (it's strongly correllated with strength of trip for me).

 

[Volundr]

I generally get a metallicy taste in my mouth while tripping reasonably hard on any drug (2C-I, 2C-T-2, LSD and even 2C-D have all done this for me). To me, it's a sign of how hard i'm tripping (it's strongly correllated with strength of trip for me).

The metallic taste generally means its a Phenethylamine (The 2C-x, DOx etc). I find that metallic tasting blotters pretty much always turn out to be DOx (from my experience) rather than LSD.

 

[strawberry jam]

I ended up taking around 1 3/4 tabs three days after the Tuesday trip (Friday, June 11) while my boyfriend took 1 1/2, and we both tripped pretty hard. I don't think tolerance came into play at all for me. Sadly, our candyflip didn't work out as perfectly as it should have because our timing was slightly off. We took the pill 3.5 hours into the trip as recommended, but by that time the acid peak was pretty much over and the pill wasn't strong enough (used to dosing molly), so we took another one an hour later and rolled extremely hard but there wasn't much synergy happening. I think next time we'll play it by ear and take the MDMA based on when we feel like we're peaking, because there was a point where we wanted to take it but forced ourselves to wait it out.

I also think I'll go with two tabs... I tripped again on two recently and the euphoria was almost unbearable. I can't imagine adding ecstasy on top of that kind of intense joy... That must be a real candyflip.

Thanks everyone for the responses. I've gotten used to the taste now, and it hasn't been as bad as the first 2-3 times.

edit: I'm not really sure why the trip on 1 1/2 - 1 2/3 tabs was so much shorter than our trips on 2 tabs. We came up really quickly and peaked quickly so that the trip lasted almost half the time, but in terms of intensity the first two hours were actually more intense. Still, I was tripping after 14 hours on two tabs the other night...