Anavar & Fatloss

man im one who tries aot of things but just seems like you looked at aas like you would hav somthing at gnc ...like OHHH look ill take that that and ....
 
ongos said:
HGH is supposed to give you mass and burn fat. I think my 6 pound gain came from it. LOL. I'm still 160 strong now. Going up.
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HGH doesn't give muscle mass unless you are injecting 10-15 iu's a day. Anything less and it just helps burn fat. Your six pound gain came from the Testosterone.
 
ongos said:
It probably wasn't what you thought it was. It was probably not h drol or whatever it is. Was there unusual symptoms on the first week? It was probably some guy that didn't like you who sold you poison.
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HYDRO_CHRONIC said:
hg drol ? H drol? how many were u supposed too take?
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He is talking about human grade Anadrol I believe. Very toxic oral steroid. Puts on serious mass but is one of those orals you want to use when you are lean as fuck. You have to make sure the dosage isn't to high nd not to run it for too long.
 
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ongos said:
regarding anavar use; i meant to use this at the final 6 weeks of my cycle to harden my gains but I ended up using it at the beginning of my cycle instead. I hope this is no big deal. I'm on my 4th week of anavar. I might go for 2 more weeks of this for a total of 6 weeks (first 3 weeks was at 50mg daily, last 3 weeks will be 100mg daily, 50mg morning, 50mg evening).
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Yeah it is a big deal.If you used it the last few weeks of your cycle you could of ensured you would keep a majority of your gains. Anavar is not a steroid to be used as a kickstart to a cycle.
 
ongos said:
It probably wasn't what you thought it was. It was probably not h drol or whatever it is. Was there unusual symptoms on the first week? It was probably some guy that didn't like you who sold you poison.
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anadrol...ph's are for people that still have no clue what they're doing and think they're actually doing a cycle yet no pct.ph's will mess you up more than aas.if you know anything about hg,human grade gear,you'd know that oxitosona S.A. was one of the top ones around then.way before British Dispensary was even thought of.average dose is anywhere between 50-100mg/ed.and that's with an increase each week.i went right to 150-200mg/ed from jump.that's how you know that shit's real.when you gain almost 20lbs in less than 3wks.doses that high most pro levels don't even fuck with.plus it's not a test based oral,it's DHT based so altho it won't aromatize the sides are horrendous at those dosages.hairloss,prostrate the size of a bus,etc...this shit's nothin to fool with if you don't understand the concept or basis of each compound you're taking.

i still take drol,anadrol,oxymetholone,on most mass cycles but in low to moderate doses now.25mg-50mg/ed and i still make tremendous gains without the bloating or sides.once you know how and what you're using it gets easier to put your own cycles together.not every cycle fits everyone the same,with the exception of a regular test only based cycle.
 
wow 3 weeks for him was long huh?

-Guido- said:
He is talking about human grade Anadrol I believe. Very toxic oral steroid. Puts on serious mass but is one of those orals you want to use when you are lean as fuck. You have to make sure the dosage isn't to high nd not to run it for too long.
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who me? I thought my cycle is not too suppressive. Test E, HGH Kigtropin, and Anavar. It's not bad for a first cycle. I'm new to gear, not new to bodybuilding. And I hate GNC, they jack up their prices 20% compared to online sellers.

HYDRO_CHRONIC said:
man im one who tries aot of things but just seems like you looked at aas like you would hav somthing at gnc ...like OHHH look ill take that that and ....
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Regarding EC and ECA stack; which one have you all tried for fat loss? EC stands for ephedra and caffeine. ECA stands for ephedra, caffeine, and aspirin. These are being sold as dietary supplements online. I was told the aspirin is not needed but for heart attack prevention with the use of ephedra, is it best to use ECA then? Aspirin is there for a reason you know?
 
ongos said:
who me? I thought my cycle is not too suppressive. Test E, HGH Kigtropin, and Anavar. It's not bad for a first cycle. I'm new to gear, not new to bodybuilding. And I hate GNC, they jack up their prices 20% compared to online sellers.
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In the grand scheme of things no one should run Anavar or HGH in their first cycle. You need to be very lean to see amazing results from Anavar and you need a proper anabolic foundation for HGH.

What's done is done. You are wiser now.
 
well yeah if one is "lean", it's easier to see "muscles" or veins popping out compared to one that is "thick". Someone here mentioned about "veining out". I think it was bigjoey. How exactly do you vein out? Does one have to be so lean that your skin is thin enough for the veins to show or what's the procedure? My brother is very thin/lean so every time he works out he gets all vein out. I lift bigger and heavier than him but I'm thicker yet I don't see much veins on me. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about, look at MMA fighter Brock Lesnar. He is thick but not a vein on him. He's just thick and "clean" looking (i.e. no intimidating veins). I think I'm the same way; thick and "clean". Now if you look at pro bodybuilders, they are thick but veined out as well. They had to be taking something for all that veins to show. I could see my veins under my thick skin, but it's not "out".

-Guido- said:
In the grand scheme of things no one should run Anavar or HGH in their first cycle. You need to be very lean to see amazing results from Anavar and you need a proper anabolic foundation for HGH.

What's done is done. You are wiser now.
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Low body fat will give you veins. The veins bodybuilders have during shows comes from at loss and diuretics.
 
over 25 in age or body fat? well i hope the Test Enanthate I've been using for the last 5 weeks will get me down to under 9% body fat. I don't even know what percent I have. LOL. How accurate are those body fat calipers I've seen for sale? Not sure about Trenbolon yet but it sounds like it's the gear I was looking for (to burn fat and gain mass) but the side effects I'm reading sucks. Masteron I'm clueless about. If you were talking about being over 25 in age, then I'm 28. If over 25 regarding body fat percentage, I'm clueless, but I'm lean everywhere else except when sitting down my fat is in the belly area.

daveblacktown said:
http://gh15biblebodybuild.blogspot.com.au/

i read on gh15 about getting lean and blowing up right, interesting read...
QUOTE "the product to get you to the 9% and under shoudl ONLY be testosterona,,trenbolona,,masterona and if over 25 gh,,no other product should be used until you arre under 9%"
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anavar still quite useful. it is good for girls - do not cause musculisation. good between cycles too, cause do not suppressive on HTPA. one thing is that any synthetic steroids much better used in stack with some form of testosterone. same quite a true about tren too.

I have done quite a bit of research in the past related to AAS, here is what I found in my archive:

Oxandrolone has an excellent myotrophic activity index of 3.2 and a low androgenic activity index of 0.2. At low doses, oxandrolone will not cause suppression of endogenous testosterone production and does not aromatize to estrogens.

Oxandrolone was approved for treating alcoholic hepatitis, Turner's syndrome, and weight loss caused by HIV. In addition, the drug has shown positive results in treating anemia and hereditary angioedema and for preserving muscle mass in burns patients. Oxandronolne also has been used with good success for idiopathic muscle mass loss and osteoporosis. At low dose (5-10mg), oxandrolone binds weakly to androgen receptors and therefore can be used by woman and does not cause virilisation. Oxandrolone has a half life 10-13 hours.
 
ongos said:
over 25 in age or body fat? well i hope the Test Enanthate I've been using for the last 5 weeks will get me down to under 9% body fat. I don't even know what percent I have. LOL. How accurate are those body fat calipers I've seen for sale? Not sure about Trenbolon yet but it sounds like it's the gear I was looking for (to burn fat and gain mass) but the side effects I'm reading sucks. Masteron I'm clueless about. If you were talking about being over 25 in age, then I'm 28. If over 25 regarding body fat percentage, I'm clueless, but I'm lean everywhere else except when sitting down my fat is in the belly area.
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Considering you are making little gains on Test and HGH Tren is NOT the gear you are looking for. Once again, it doesn't magically cause muscle to be gained and fat to be lost.
 
MaxTTR said:
not suppressive on HTPA.
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It is. Don't buy into bro science and other bullshit.

Get your hormone levels checked then run Anavar for 8 weeks at 50mg and then get your hormone levels checked again.
 
-Guido- said:
It is. Don't buy into bro science and other bullshit.

Get your hormone levels checked then run Anavar for 8 weeks at 50mg and then get your hormone levels checked again.
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when it is about steroids broscience is often only what we have in hands. official research in steroids are very stagnant once in a 10 year good review in reputed journal. I'm against BS by all mean, but when amount of BS in official journals quite huge too, what would you expect form street scientists.

so, after cerefuly considering amount of BS everywhere I would not buy into bushing of good valuable steroid like oxandrolone also.

most important index in evaluation of effect of AAS on muscle is myotropic index and oxandrolone myotropic index is 3.2 and because oxandrolone has low androgenic activity index of 0.2. it is not a strong androgen and therefor relatively not suppressive on HTPA.

good read on that subject would be review Pharmacology of anabolic steroids AT Kicman British Journal of Pharmacology 2008

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